From wang!elf.wang.com!ucsd.edu!info-hams-relay Wed Apr 17 13:51:36 1991 remote from tosspot Received: by tosspot (1.64/waf) via UUCP; Wed, 17 Apr 91 21:11:46 EST for lee Received: from somewhere by elf.wang.com id aa09337; Wed, 17 Apr 91 13:51:35 GMT Received: from ucsd.edu by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-shadow-mx) id AA21914; Wed, 17 Apr 91 09:35:53 -0400 Received: by ucsd.edu; id AA24775 sendmail 5.64/UCSD-2.1-sun Wed, 17 Apr 91 04:30:54 -0700 for nixbur!schroeder.pad Received: by ucsd.edu; id AA24756 sendmail 5.64/UCSD-2.1-sun Wed, 17 Apr 91 04:30:44 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odb -oQ/var/spool/lqueue -oi -finfo-hams-relay info-hams-list Message-Id: <9104171130.AA24756@ucsd.edu> Date: Wed, 17 Apr 91 04:30:40 PDT From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup Reply-To: Info-Hams@ucsd.edu Subject: Info-Hams Digest V91 #302 To: Info-Hams@ucsd.edu Info-Hams Digest Wed, 17 Apr 91 Volume 91 : Issue 302 Today's Topics: Ban on Linears on Ten Meters drumrolls and raspberries Dummy Load for Sale IC-W2A: Floorwax AND a Dessert Topping - Correction Motorola HT programming National NC300 receiver manual? Question about GNS server. SY/DJ6SI - Mount Athos Ten Meter Beacons TenTec The IC-W2A: A Floor Wax AND a Dessert Toping! (2 msgs) Send Replies or notes for publication to: Send subscription requests to: Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the Info-Hams Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 15 Apr 91 18:43:18 GMT From: usc!bbn.com!nic!kira!emily!gdavis@ucsd.edu Subject: Ban on Linears on Ten Meters To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Has anyone figured out why the F.C.C. still insists that all commercial linears for hams still be incapable of transmitting in the ten meter band? Wouldn't it be simpler to filter signals that are in the 11 meter band out of such equipment,essentially making the linear give an output of zero on 11 meters? Why should we hams continue to have to pay for the sins of the jerks on 11 meters? Think Green& 73 de WQ1F in the Greenest of states in the 50. ------------------------------ Date: 16 Apr 91 22:49:42 GMT From: swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!turnkey!orchard.la.locus.com!fafnir.la.locus.com!dana@ucsd.edu Subject: drumrolls and raspberries To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <47255@ut-emx.uucp> oo7@ut-emx.uucp (Q. Burpington-Smythe) writes: >Can we stop all this stuff about the new Techs? Just when I think >it's over someone has to resurrect it. The original poster who >"congratulated" the new Tech chose an unfortunate word. Dammit, the guy got his Tech! He earned an amateur radio license. I'm frankly sick and tired of the attitude that has cropped up around the Technician Class license. I've even heard local VE's on the air referring to the 'No-Code' license, and I've commented to them there is NO SUCH THING AS A NO-CODE LICENSE. There is a TECHNICIAN LICENSE. Congratulations are in order when someone earns a Technician license. There is nothing unfortunate about congratulating them. *Note that I've moved followups to rec.radio.amateur.policy -- * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ | Views expressed here are * * (213) 337-5136 | mine and do not necessarily * * dana@locus.com | reflect those of my employer * ------------------------------ Date: 16 Apr 91 16:46:00 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: Dummy Load for Sale To: info-hams@ucsd.edu I've got a brand new MFJ-264 dummy load, in the box, never connected. Their catalog has been $89.95; its been on sale for $59.95. I don't need it, so I'll sell it for $50 and pay the postage. steve - W3GRG /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\ / * Stephen R. Mosier \ / Office of Research Services \ / University of North Carolina at Greensboro | |______ ----------- / \______ / VOICE: 919-334-5878 \ / PICTURES: 919-334-3140 \ / E-MAIL: mosier@uncg.bitnet --- TWO METERS: W3GRG monitors 146.76 INTERNET: mosier@steffi.acc.uncg.edu SNAIL-MAIL: Greensboro, NC 27412-5001 NUCLEAR MISSLE: 79 48 26 W / 36 03 55 N TELEPATHY: however you can make it work ------------------------------ Date: 16 Apr 91 15:26:47 GMT From: usc!samsung!mips!dimacs.rutgers.edu!bcm!convex!texsun!newstop!west!L1-A.West.Sun.COM!flloyd@ucsd.edu Subject: IC-W2A: Floorwax AND a Dessert Topping - Correction To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Ooops! I warned you! It turns out that I was wrong about the automatic off function - it is built in such that the radio will shut itself off after some period of inactivity - either 30, or 60 minutes, depending on how it's set. Sorry for the confusion. Also, found out a funy thing last night: I let the battery run down until the whole rig was flashing. Couldn't turn it off with the power Button. Insufficient power to read the keyboard! Unplugging the battery and plugging it back in did not work - still on. Removed the plastic cap from the charging hole on top and it stopped..... I mentioned in my article that the radio was remarkably capable of doing multiple things at once. After looking at the schematics last night the reason is now clear: it has TWO microprocessors - one for VHF and one for UHF. No wonder. Lot's of smarts in a small package. 73, -fred AA7BQ -- | Fred Lloyd AA7BQ Fred.Lloyd@West.sun.com | | Sun Microsystems, Inc. ...sun!flloyd | | Phoenix, AZ (reality -- what a concept!) (602) 275-4242 | ------------------------------ Date: 16 Apr 91 16:21:15 GMT From: dale@ucsd.edu Subject: Motorola HT programming To: info-hams@ucsd.edu A friend needs to know how to program two Motorola walkie talkies for HAM frequencies. One is an MT 1000, the other is an HT 600. Programming specs. or a program would be welcomed. Please email dale@interlan.interlan.com ------------------------------ Date: 17 Apr 91 00:36:47 GMT From: timbuk!dadams@uunet.uu.net Subject: National NC300 receiver manual? To: info-hams@ucsd.edu I recently aquired a National NC300 receiver. This is an all tube model. Labels on the inside indicate that it was made at least after Jan. 1, 1955. It covers the following bands 1.8 - 2.0 Mhz -- 160m 3.5 - 4.0 Mhz -- 80m 7.0 - 7.3 Mhz -- 40m 14.0 - 14.4Mhz -- 20m 21.0 - 21.5Mhz -- 15m 26.5 - 27.5Mhz -- No longer a ham band? 28.0 - 29.7Mhz -- 10m 49.5 - 54.5Mhz -- 6m 143.5 - 148.5Mhz -- 2m 220.0 - 225.0Mhz -- 1.25m I really need a manual. There are so many knobs and dials, that I don't know how to use etc. Is there anyone out there that might be able to help me locate a manual? I tried to test it the other day, but got to signals. This might be because, 1) I didn't have it hooked up properly, 2) I had a whimpy antenna (a wire strung across the kitchen.) or 3) One of the tubes might be bad. (The guy who gave it to me assured me that it worked recently.) In the 70's I could walk into Walgreens and use a big tube tester they had to test tubes and find out if they worked. Where do hams go today? The modes knob is labeled CW, SSB, AM, and ACC. What is ACC? Again if anyone could help me find a manual it would be greatly apreciated. Thanks again David Adams dadams@cray.com ------------------------------ Date: 16 Apr 91 18:20:35 GMT From: infonode!ingr!b8!youngwa@uunet.uu.net Subject: Question about GNS server. To: info-hams@ucsd.edu I saw the posting by Kim L. Greer of Durham, NC, concerning the GNS (Geographic Name Server) running at martini.eecs.umich.edu 3000. My local host machine doesn't recognize this nodename, does anyone out there know the numerical internet address? (example 129.135.150.129 3000) Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Butch N4WMT -- # William A. Young (Butch) N4WMT # # Intergraph Corporation Telephone (205) 730-4410 # # Mail Stop CR086 Building 8 7:30am-4:15pm (0730-1615) # # Huntsville, AL 35894-0001 # ------------------------------ Date: 16 Apr 91 22:32:46 GMT From: pa.dec.com!e2big.mko.dec.com!shlump.nac.dec.com!mast.enet.dec.com!reisert@decwrl.dec.com Subject: SY/DJ6SI - Mount Athos To: info-hams@ucsd.edu I heard that Baldur sent greetings from one of the monks, so he might just actually be there. - Jim AD1C =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "The opinions expressed here in no way represent the views of Digital Equipment Corporation." James J. Reisert Internet: reisert@mast.enet.dec.com Digital Equipment Corp. UUCP: ...decwrl!mast.enet!reisert 146 Main Street Voice: 508-493-5747 Maynard, MA 01754 FAX: 508-493-???? ------------------------------ Date: 16 Apr 91 22:00:42 GMT From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!crisp@ucsd.edu Subject: Ten Meter Beacons To: info-hams@ucsd.edu I am wondering if anyone out there in net-land has a list of ten meter beacons they would be willing to share? I am interested in the frequencies and locations and hours of operation (assuming they aren't on 24hrs/day). This information will be very helpful in determining which paths are open to the various locations around the globe. -- Richard Crisp crisp@mips.com MIPS Computer Systems !decwrl!mips!crisp 928 Arques MS 5-07 (408) 524-7250 Sunnyvale, Ca 94086 ------------------------------ Date: 17 Apr 91 01:08:30 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: TenTec To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Ref TenTec and the Govt. I talked to Mr Wagner at Ft Hz Az. Wheo is a Ham by the way. He informed me that we ARMY had purchased SEVERAL TenTec outfits. They purchased a set and setn them to locations thru out the area i hope we do get into the TenTec system i like the rigs and the service. 73 Roland. de KA2RC/ABM1RC ------------------------------ Date: 16 Apr 91 19:02:09 GMT From: deccrl!news.crl.dec.com!shlump.nac.dec.com!yacht.enet.dec.com!gettys@decwrl.dec.com Subject: The IC-W2A: A Floor Wax AND a Dessert Toping! To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <1600@west.West.Sun.COM>, flloyd@L1-A.West.Sun.COM (Fred Lloyd SUN Phoenix SE 602-275-5537 x17) writes: |> |>Low Power Setting - you may select your own choice for the low output |>power level in 4 steps, using the keyboard and dial knob. |> Note that you only get TWO power levels with the supplied battery and any other of the 7.2v batteries. The lowest and the next three up (which are all the same). >Display Light - Much better illumination and readability than the 32AT, |>and can be set to always-on if desired. |> Still doesn't match the u2AT readout here, but without that comparison, it is quite good. |>Cross Band Repeat Function - There is no mention of this capability |>anywhere in the documentation. It is not known if it exists but it |>seems unlikely that it doesn't. |> My guess here too. Maybe we'll find out at Dayton??? |>The radio comes with the same antenna as the 32AT, which is a good deal |>longer than the super-stubby which came on the 24AT. |> This antenna is MUCH!!!! better than the one that comes with the IC-24!!! (If you still have a 24 - get one of these!) BTW - it has the same Icom number as the one from the IC 24??? (yes- they ARE idebtical, no - I don't understand it) |>The speaker is perhaps the size of a quarter and the audio it emits is |>not very punchy. It rattles at high volume and seems to bottom out |>fairly easily, especially when listening to someone with a raspy |>voice. At low volume levels the sound is quite good with an amazing |>amount of fidelity for its size. Probably not a good radio in a high |>ambient noise environment, like driving in a car with the windows |>rolled down. The microphone seems to be very good and on the air |>reports indicate that it is not tinny and has a nice low frequency |>response. |> The speaker mike helps this a LOT. (No - they aren't yet available). Take an MH-46 and cut off the connector and replace it with a standard stereo 1/8 inch plug. The wiring is simple, the shell is ground, the ring is the standard ICOM mike/PTT, the tip is the speaker. |>The display lens appears to be a polycarbonate and is definitely an |>optical magnifying device. It's convex surface sticks out such that |>it's terribly easy to scratch it. I got a small scratch in mine on the |>first day, while wearing it with the belt clip. As of this writing, |>there are no cases or other accessories available yet. I'll have to be |>*very* careful in the meantime. |> A case is a definite necessity. As a temporary substitute for the real case, use one designed for the IC-24 and that battery (LC-66) and you can see all but the 4 buttons that are the lowest and can still read the labels above the next row up. Perfect? H**l no, but worth it for the protection. >You can't charge the battery unless it's attached to the rig. This was |>also true with the 24AT and it still stinks. They now offer an adaptor |>(which isn't available yet) that clips onto the top of the battery so |>that it can be charged away from the radio. Your only other option is |>to spend $100+ on the drop-in charger. |> This isn't quite true, ICOM sells an adaptor (the AD-14 I think) that allows you to use the chargers for the IC-24 or the S series walkies to charge the batteries directly. There is also the capability to use 12vdc with this adaptor. The BC-16 will also work with this adaptor. I suspect that the adaptor mentioned above will have the new connector on it. The drop-in charger has an advantage that no other current one has - it can be powered from 12volts! |>The only place where images were at a minimum was the ham bands, where |>it has to meet the published specs. I do notice, however, that the |>IC-W2A is more susceptible to the RFI hash from my PC than the IC-32AT |>was - even in the ham bands. |> I'm not sure about the images, but I am sure that the sensitivity of the W is better than the 24. I can hear signals that really are there (as proven by different receivers) much better on the W than the 24; although my first impression was negative. I had to prove that the signals really existed. All in all, it's a good radio that, like all radios, has some good features and some bad features. /s/ Bob N1BRM ------------------------------ Date: 17 Apr 91 04:15:47 GMT From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!bionet!agate!darkstar!ucscb.UCSC.EDU!rosty@ucsd.edu Subject: The IC-W2A: A Floor Wax AND a Dessert Toping! To: info-hams@ucsd.edu A few questions about the IC-W2A: What other batteries are available for this? Are there batteries avaialbe that will give it 5watts out on VHF/UHF? Are third-party companies making batteries for these HTs (Paraphex, etc)? What's the cost of this baby, and where is it available? HRO? Amateur Electronic Supply? What accessories are available now (charger, batteries, cases & speaker-mic are the important things for me). Any nifty mods for this thing yet? Cross band repeat, out-of-band Tx, etc? This looks like THE radio to buy... -Kirk J. Smith (rosty@ucscb.ucsc.edu) ------------------------------ Date: 16 Apr 91 22:24:20 GMT From: sdd.hp.com!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!aplcen!jhunix!ins_atge@ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <21854@shlump.nac.dec.com>, <913@idacrd.UUCP>, <5031@lupine.NCD.COM> Subject : Re: The first No-Code Ham is........(DRUMROLL)..... In article <5031@lupine.NCD.COM> phil@hansen.NCD.COM (Phil Graham) writes: >I personally have brought 2 new hams into the hobby in the last 2 months >with the new technician license. I am working on many more (2 for >sure!) The Johns Hopkins Amateur Radio club was all but dead. We were down to more or less 2 active licensed members. New people would show up at the meetings, but would never get licensed. Since January, we finally got another ham licensed (codeless tech, he also passed the general theory, and, oh yeah, is a psychology major). On saturday I expect we will have another ham licensed. He is going to study the 5 WPM code, but he knows even if he doesn't pass the CW he will be able to get codeless tech (he's an EE major). I think we might get "coded techs" this way. Before codeless tech, no one here wanted to go to a test since they knew they had to pass 5 WPM to get any kind of a license. Now the pressure is off, and more people are interested in going to VEC tests. The bottom line is that codeless tech is helping the ham population here. Your mileage may vary. One thing for sure, the new codeless techs we have here aren't going to be the (#&(*!# operators like you find on 20m! -Thomas Edwards N3HAU ------------------------------ Date: 17 Apr 91 00:49:21 GMT From: swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ncar!asuvax!ukma!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ncoast!allbery@ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <40873@netnews.upenn.edu>, <1991Apr13.173726.6658@NCoast.ORG>, <5LJ32.6__@linac.fnal.gov> Reply-To : allbery@ncoast.ORG (Brandon S. Allbery KB8JRR/AA) Subject : Re: Dayton frequencies As quoted from <5LJ32.6__@linac.fnal.gov> by carlson@linac.fnal.gov (Kermit Carlson): +--------------- | In article <1991Apr13.173726.6658@NCoast.ORG> allbery@ncoast.ORG (Brandon S. Allbery KB8JRR/AA) writes: | >Anyone have a frequency on 1.2? :-) | | A group of us from the western 'burbs of Chicago (Aurora, Batavia, | Elgin) will be on 1292.00Mhz. We have found the lack of intermod, | noise and trash on 1292 Mhz makes it a superlative choice for | Daytoneering..... +--------------- Sounds good to me --- we have a local repeater on 1292.0, but I find it unlikely that we'll hear a repeater in Cleveland in the middle of *that* :-) ++Brandon -- Me: Brandon S. Allbery Ham: KB8JRR/AA on 2m, 220, 440, 1200 Internet: allbery@NCoast.ORG (QRT on HF until local problems fixed) America OnLine: KB8JRR // Delphi: ALLBERY AMPR: kb8jrr.AmPR.ORG [44.70.4.88] uunet!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ncoast!allbery KB8JRR @ WA8BXN.OH ------------------------------ Date: 17 Apr 91 00:54:48 GMT From: swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ncar!asuvax!ukma!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ncoast!allbery@ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <1991Apr13.173726.6658@NCoast.ORG>, <5LJ32.6__@linac.fnal.gov>, <1991Apr16.062516.28702@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Reply-To : allbery@ncoast.ORG (Brandon S. Allbery KB8JRR/AA) Subject : Re: Dayton frequencies As quoted from <1991Apr16.062516.28702@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> by phil@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Phil Howard KA9WGN): +--------------- | >A group of us from the western 'burbs of Chicago (Aurora, Batavia, | >Elgin) will be on 1292.00Mhz. We have found the lack of intermod, | >noise and trash on 1292 Mhz makes it a superlative choice for | >Daytoneering..... | | While the Chicago area might very well have elected to have a different | bandplan than the ARRL national, keep in mind that when you travel OUTSIDE | of the Chicago area, the ARRL bandplan is usually in effect. I don't know | specifically if Dayton is an exception on not. Most likely it is not. +--------------- "The first Japanese radios for 1.2 only had a 20MHz offset, so that's what everyone uses." --John WA8PKB, LEARN This in response to my having to return a nice new TH55AT because it only had 12.5MHz offset.... Practicality wins out over the ARRL. ++Brandon -- Me: Brandon S. Allbery Ham: KB8JRR/AA on 2m, 220, 440, 1200 Internet: allbery@NCoast.ORG (QRT on HF until local problems fixed) America OnLine: KB8JRR // Delphi: ALLBERY AMPR: kb8jrr.AmPR.ORG [44.70.4.88] uunet!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ncoast!allbery KB8JRR @ WA8BXN.OH ------------------------------ Date: 17 Apr 91 00:47:08 GMT From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!ukma!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ncoast!allbery@ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <1991Apr14.060210.27164@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, <1991Apr15.235046.4835@NCoast.ORG>, <1991Apr16.063058.29123@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Reply-To : allbery@ncoast.ORG (Brandon S. Allbery KB8JRR/AA) Subject : Re: Dayton frequencies As quoted from <1991Apr16.063058.29123@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> by phil@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Phil Howard KA9WGN): +--------------- | How about someone running a crossband repeater between 70cm and 23cm? +--------------- Actually, 1291.90 *was* cross-banded with 444.15/444.05/443.05/224.34/224.46 (that enough for you? LEARN is potent stuff!) until the population was large enough to justify splitting it off and adding a separate link on 1292.00. ++Brandon -- Me: Brandon S. Allbery Ham: KB8JRR/AA on 2m, 220, 440, 1200 Internet: allbery@NCoast.ORG (QRT on HF until local problems fixed) America OnLine: KB8JRR // Delphi: ALLBERY AMPR: kb8jrr.AmPR.ORG [44.70.4.88] uunet!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ncoast!allbery KB8JRR @ WA8BXN.OH ------------------------------ Date: 17 Apr 91 00:58:38 GMT From: swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ncar!asuvax!ukma!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ncoast!allbery@ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <1991Apr13.225037.370@n3eua.ampr.org>, <1991Apr15.133255.26190@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>, <115498@unix.cis.pitt.edu> Reply-To : allbery@ncoast.ORG (Brandon S. Allbery KB8JRR/AA) Subject : Re: Driving to Dayton As quoted from <115498@unix.cis.pitt.edu> by hpb@hpb.cis.pitt.edu (Harry Bloomberg): +--------------- | year, I seem to remember that I-70 and both I-270 bypasses were being torn | up. +--------------- If it's anything like the situation up north, it'll be pretty bad. They're *all* torn up here (well, 71 and 271 are still okay... last I saw. No bets). ++Brandon -- Me: Brandon S. Allbery Ham: KB8JRR/AA on 2m, 220, 440, 1200 Internet: allbery@NCoast.ORG (QRT on HF until local problems fixed) America OnLine: KB8JRR // Delphi: ALLBERY AMPR: kb8jrr.AmPR.ORG [44.70.4.88] uunet!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ncoast!allbery KB8JRR @ WA8BXN.OH ------------------------------ End of Info-Hams Digest ******************************