>February 10, 1993 From STARSHIP INDUSTRIES, Catalog sellers of Laser Video >Disc Software, and publishers of "The Laser Beam" Magazine. >Fax: 703-430-6657 Voice phone: 703-430-8692 Leave EMAIL on the "EXEC PC", >Elm Grove, WI, (414)-789-4210, 2400 Baud, under the user name "DARK STAR". I have no idea who, or what, a Dark Star is, or just what his (or her or its) interest in this matter might be, but I'm damn certain Dark Star and I would not find much common ground should we ever meet. > *********************************** DS> The chill is on folks, and the ICEMAN is your ole' Uncle Sam. Think I have this gerbil figured out already.... DS> On Saturday, January 30, 1993, the FBI staged a raid on "Rusty & Edie's", DS> a computer bulletin board system located in Boardman, Ohio. More DS> information on the raid is available in the file "R&E_BUST.TXT" which is DS> posted on the "EXEC PC" BBS. Yep, it's police bashing time... DS> Terri Childs, A staff member at the "Software Publishers Association", DS> (SPA) indicated to us by telephone today that the principle complaints DS> against Rusty & Edies rose out of the BBS posting of commercial software DS> copyrighted by SPA members. "These programs would only appear on the DS> board at certain times", she said. Titles would include game programs DS> such as "Mario Teaches Typing" and many others. She further indicated DS> that posting of such commercial software was "not random" but "formed a DS> specific pattern", prompting FBI action. When questioned as to how a DS> BBS might protect itself from users posting copyrighted software, Ms. DS> Childs suggested the BBS could contact the copyright holder to confirm DS> clearance of any program posted. On the logistical difficulty of having DS> to call about thousands of programs, she reiterated the SPA's position DS> that the BBS sysop could call the software publisher to check on [each] DS> program. The sysop of a bulletin board is ultimately responsible for the material posted to the board. If in doubt, delete! A sysop with any amount of experience should have acquired a reasonable knowledge of computer software. He should also be able to understand basic technical terminology such as "copyright". DS> According to sources at Rusty & Edies, the FBI raid was achieved by DS> forced entry into the private home of the board's owners while no one was DS> in the residence. In addition to the computer hardware and Software DS> actually seized, the owners claimed to have suffered extensive property DS> damage to both their home and belongings as a result of the raid. I would assume that the principals were served with a search warrant that covered both their business premises and residential quarters; the FBI seems to pay quite a lot of attention to little details like that. Judges frown and become distressed when such niceties are overlooked. DS> Complicating matters for Rusty and Edies are recent court cases regarding DS> property seizures. Steming mostly from drug and tax related actions, DS> courts now require separate legal hearings for the recovery of lost DS> property and related damages even when the defendant(s) are cleared of DS> all charges. Yeah, ain't it a bitch? All those cars and planes and boats, etc., being taken away from nice people who just want to get back into "business" quickly to be able to pay the lawyers' fees.... and make another few million... "Steming" does not compute. Try "stemming". DS> Unlike individuals, the courts have ruled that property is not considered DS> to be protected by constitutional guarantees. Even when a property owner DS> is proven innocent, current court precedence places the burden of proof DS> on the owner to "clear" his property from accusations of being used or DS> obtained from illegal activities. The process of "clearing" property can DS> be both time consuming and costly in legal fees. It is not usual to see DS> on a federal the court docket a case such as "THE UNITED STATES Vs THE DS> 1992 MERCADES BENZ". Really, old chap, it is a Mercedes - no "a". Trust me. DS> The owner must act as advocate councel for his DS> Mercades Benz if he ever hopes to get it back. "Councel"? Are you using a pirated copy of Webster, Dark Star? Shades of Mark Twain's "Aunt Polly", I do believe a whitewash job is about to commence! DS> In addition, there is the open admission by Law enforcement agencies (both DS> federal and local) that revenues form seized property are returned to DS> bolster their operating budgets. There is every incentive for an officer DS> or agent to find any cause to seize a potential suspect's property. That's public knowledge, dummy, but it isn't quite as simple as you attempt to make it. Probably your parole officer can explain the fine details so you'll be able to understand it. Ask him on your next visit. And I'll spot you the "form", since it's an easy typo for "from".... DS> Reports of abuses are surfacing nationwide. In Washington, DC, it has DS> been reported that DC City police officers have often stopped pedestrian DS> in "high drug use" neighborhoods. The officer demands the surrender of DS> all cash on the suspicion that any money carried in these areas of the DS> city could be used for purchasing drugs. Once the cash is surrendered, DS> the pedestrian is sent on his way without any charges made or receipt DS> given for the seized money. Under threat of possible arrest or accusation DS> of "resisting an officer," few citizens are inclined to resist such a DS> shakedown. Now what does that have to do with Rusty & Edie's problems? Or is this just a journalistic ploy to convince the reader by inference that the FBI are dirty? That Rusty & Edie are Really Nice People and that the Feds should give them back all their hardware and pirated software? Do you have some personal or financial interest in Rusty & Edie's, or are you just another deluded bleeding heart with access to a keyboard? Explain your motives, Dark Star, lest your creditability suffer. DS> In an other area of Washington, DC, commuters driving through key areas DS> are be stopped and their auto seized upon the suspicion of "solicitation DS> for prostitution". Is there something here that Dark Star isn't telling us? What kind of "software" was being peddled? Come on, DS, Inquiring Minds Want To Know! At the risk of being pedantic, old fellow, your grammar and sentence structure leave much to be desired. Have you considered a remedial writing class? DS> While prostitution problems in the neighborhood may be genuine, there have DS> a number of complaints from citizens who were subsequently cleared of DS> charges but were unable to recover their vehicle without being forced to DS> take separate legal actions. Or a taxi. DS> While the potential case against "Rusty & Edies" is far from settled, it DS> is quite possible the copyright violations may be no more than a mixture DS> of well meaning (but ignorant of the law) user uploads and slow DS> verification and file deletion by the R&E staff. On many boards, new DS> uploaded files automatically post with the uploaders description attached. DS> It is only when the sysop, or his employees, screen the upload list that DS> unsuitable files can be caught and deleted. Or when callers repeatedly bring the matter to the sysops' attention! Even the densest sysop should be aware that firms like Microsoft and Borland, to name just a couple, are definitely NOT into shareware marketing! DS> Faced with the gruelling choice of individual file verification, or a DS> possible catastrophic property loss from seizure, few BBS sysops are going DS> to be willing to maintain the open free flow of data files that users enjoy DS> today. Add to this the hackers often remove copyright identification from DS> many files. In the eyes of the law, an altered file that no longer DS> displays copyright protection is still the property of it's owner. It certainly is. Just as removing or altering the VIN number of your neighbour's Caddy doesn't really make it your property. Doesn't make for quiet neighborhoods, either. DS> In summery... You spelled "summary" incorrectly, Dark Star. If you want to be a Real Writer when you grow up, get a Spelling Checker..... maybe Rusty had one tucked away that the Feds missed.... Up here, it's wintery. DS> The burden of proof to clear copyright for each file is now squarely on DS> the BBS sysops, the threat of widespread raids is clear, and the burden of DS> recovering seized property is on the all of us, innocent and guilty alike. Cripes, that burden always has been on the sysop. As a sysop, I feel no threat of impending raid, doom, or plagues of locusts. A man always has been held responsible for his own actions. At least until recently when the assorted bleeding hearts began their support-your-local-criminal campaigns. DS> The loss to all users is beyond question. The days of small independent DS> BBS's offering huge libraries of software may be numbered. DS> This is particularly true for those "accessory" files that enhance existing DS> commercial software packages. The process of verifying every file is just DS> to difficult. Speak for yourself, Dark Star. Did you, perchance, lose a source of pirated programs? Is that why you're blue, Bubba? Personally, I didn't lose a damn thing, except a board that had become a blotch on the reputation of every law abiding sysop in North America. And I sure wouldn't classify Rusty & Edie's as a "small" operation. Not with some 124 phone lines and 19 gigabytes of hard drives. Drop in here sometime, and see what "small" really is. Allegedly, Rusty & Edie's had some 14,000 users who were shelling out $89. per annum (that's a year, in case you don't understand...). By my math, that works out to a gross income of $1,246,000.00 per year, which isn't exactly chopped liver. Last year, I had 240 users who paid $0 for access, which works out to less than zero after operating costs. I should feel sympathy for the proprietors of Rusty & Edie's? In a pig's flipping eye, mate! With that level of gross income, I'd consider they might have been able to afford to hire some one to check the legitimacy of new uploads. Perhaps they could have qualified for a job training grant from the government to soften the impact of adding a minimum wage employee to the payroll. DS> The next time you need a printer driver from the Word Perfect conference, DS> or a debugged utility for Microsoft Windows, chances are it will no longer DS> be there, even though the publisher might allow it. Not on Rusty & Edie's, at any rate, chum! Probably not for a helluva long time..... I've never been able to understand why a person who places himself outside the law thinks he's entitled to the protection of the law when he's caught. Tell me, Dark Star, why should the thief who steals from me be entitled to a defence by a court appointed attorney whose fees are paid by MY tax dollars? The laws of society were designed originally to protect the law abiding citizenry, not nurture the criminal element. In my less than humble opinion, it's long past time to return to that concept. Strikes me that it's also time to restore some ethics to journalism. All in all, Dark Star, you singularly fail to impress me. Not as a writer, not as a speller, not as a journalist, and certainly not as a person of any integrity. In the Dark you may be, but a Star you're not. Not in my world, or any other world that I'd care to inhabit. And I don't hide behind any alias, Dark Star. Right is right and wrong is wrong, and a man is judged by the side he supports. Get my meaning, Dark Star? R. Wallace Hale Sysop Driftnet (506) 325-9002