Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for +dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr1/ota/space/space.dl@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr1/ota/space/space.dl) (->ota+space.digests) ID ; Sat, 17 Sep 88 04:05:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sat, 17 Sep 88 04:05:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for +dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr1/ota/space/space.dl; Sat, 17 Sep 88 04:04:32 EDT Received: by angband.s1.gov id AA01820; Sat, 17 Sep 88 01:06:42 PDT id AA01820; Sat, 17 Sep 88 01:06:42 PDT Date: Sat, 17 Sep 88 01:06:42 PDT From: Ted Anderson Message-Id: <8809170806.AA01820@angband.s1.gov> To: Space+@andrew.cmu.edu Reply-To: Space+@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: SPACE Digest V8 #365 SPACE Digest Volume 8 : Issue 365 Today's Topics: NASA Prediction Bulletins Frequently asked SPACE questions ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 11 Sep 88 01:47:38 GMT From: ens@blackbird.afit.af.mil (Operational Sciences) Subject: NASA Prediction Bulletins The most current orbital elements from the NASA Prediction Bulletins are carried on the Celestial RCP/M, (513) 427-0674, and are updated several times weekly. As a service to the amateur satellite community, the most current of these elements are uploaded weekly to sci.space. This week's elements are provided below. The Celestial RCP/M may be accessed 24 hours/day at 300, 1200, or 2400 baud using 8 data bits, 1 stop bit, no parity. Note: The number above is the new number in Fairborn, Ohio. Note: These bulletins were previously posted to rec.ham-radio but I no longer have access to that newsgroup at my new location. Please pass the word to rec.ham-radio concerning the location of these postings. - Current NASA Prediction Bulletins #375 - GOES 2 1 10061U 88248.55871669 -.00000007 10000-3 0 1415 2 10061 6.4406 71.8313 0005386 149.2752 210.7619 1.00263827 2518 GPS-0001 1 10684U 88245.76799810 0.00000013 0 9490 2 10684 63.4658 109.7712 0101164 197.8453 161.9413 2.00564024 62747 GPS-0002 1 10893U 88239.23920919 -.00000029 0 9097 2 10893 64.5663 350.7723 0142972 30.6653 330.1737 2.00564414 75437 GOES 3 1 10953U 88228.66805303 0.00000086 10000-3 0 5260 2 10953 5.0557 74.5535 0002616 160.6000 200.3414 1.00280276 38572 SeaSat 1 1 10967U 88244.35512614 0.00000349 16930-3 0 141 2 10967 108.0079 51.1656 0002138 268.6915 91.4071 14.33854985532535 GPS-0003 1 11054U 88240.55558513 -.00000029 0 9383 2 11054 64.1464 347.2868 0051834 119.9821 240.5545 2.00570050 72472 GPS-0004 1 11141U 88247.13942807 0.00000013 0 310 2 11141 63.4560 109.6285 0055233 325.5595 34.1637 2.00559714 71305 NOAA 6 1 11416U 88251.03823468 0.00000233 11484-3 0 7526 2 11416 98.4969 250.6548 0010879 217.9991 142.0440 14.25191367477566 Solar Max 1 11703U 88249.88148714 0.00014432 45209-3 0 6829 2 11703 28.5002 88.9539 0003448 84.6160 275.4832 15.31531608475973 GPS-0006 1 11783U 88245.10428240 -.00000029 0 7996 2 11783 63.9758 346.8814 0134629 64.3030 297.1187 2.00562257 61208 GOES 4 1 11964U 88245.38571501 -.00000239 10000-3 0 98 2 11964 4.7579 76.2714 0001751 109.7384 250.7295 1.00271361 44973 GOES 5 1 12472U 88247.46965142 -.00000248 10000-3 0 6234 2 12472 1.7605 86.9661 0002287 38.0516 322.6027 1.00263579 25737 UOSAT 1 1 12888U 88249.25190348 0.00014285 42597-3 0 2879 2 12888 97.6155 284.6321 0002864 121.5758 238.5923 15.34764576385014 RS-08 1 12998U 88248.40785558 0.00000012 10000-3 0 5375 2 12998 82.9566 31.6319 0018594 243.3246 116.5886 12.02965844294945 RS-05 1 12999U 88249.35875503 0.00000012 10000-3 0 5247 2 12999 82.9709 25.8971 0011539 179.2179 180.9046 12.05071616295579 RS-07 1 13001U 88249.34792947 0.00000013 10000-3 0 4038 2 13001 82.9606 16.3653 0023201 88.1594 272.2243 12.08707428296463 Meteor 2-08 1 13113U 88245.60005115 0.00000076 63463-4 0 5998 2 13113 82.5386 288.0994 0015973 147.1294 213.0868 13.83869004325321 Salyut 7 1 13138U 88250.73197755 0.00003988 13266-3 0 2220 2 13138 51.6124 255.6668 0001913 87.0239 273.0475 15.33491325364599 Meteor 2-09 1 13718U 88246.34377952 0.00000068 32742-4 0 7025 2 13718 81.2450 203.0640 0057637 96.9656 263.8086 14.12990820294909 GOES 6 1 14050U 88243.43219514 0.00000116 0 8203 2 14050 0.5267 83.9697 0003910 113.5667 162.2174 1.00268796 3696 OSCAR 10 1 14129U 88239.30510271 -.00000138 10000-3 0 3525 2 14129 27.1492 307.6972 6027104 331.5568 6.0030 2.05882335 11141 GPS-0008 1 14189U 88246.69426127 0.00000013 0 5468 2 14189 63.0797 108.3717 0128379 212.8617 146.4132 2.00554961 37677 Meteor 2-10 1 14452U 88236.05663704 0.00000159 66423-4 0 6473 2 14452 81.1621 232.2087 0094056 234.8858 124.3494 14.21829784250171 LandSat 5 1 14780U 88246.04793825 0.00000540 12998-3 0 5194 2 14780 98.2117 307.1577 0004215 67.5339 292.6299 14.57115054239607 UOSAT 2 1 14781U 88247.25632110 0.00000612 12999-3 0 3423 2 14781 98.0478 308.0125 0013502 138.6116 221.6102 14.62398684240590 LDEF 1 14898U 88246.06259631 0.00009264 24713-3 0 6155 2 14898 28.5050 20.2556 0001523 242.6440 117.4005 15.36288726246924 GPS-0009 1 15039U 88246.74840852 0.00000012 0 5733 2 15039 62.8080 107.7318 0014627 304.9586 54.9644 2.00565189 30951 Meteor 2-11 1 15099U 88245.40619560 0.00000029 20526-4 0 8978 2 15099 82.5275 235.9998 0013074 335.5419 24.5119 13.83540845210180 GPS-0010 1 15271U 88246.64385993 -.00000029 10000-2 0 5250 2 15271 63.4457 346.7318 0094746 314.8452 44.4108 2.00557989 28068 Cosmos 1602 1 15331U 88248.77321983 0.00001287 19190-3 0 9106 2 15331 82.5354 241.5060 0023581 294.9703 64.9112 14.73970056212159 NOAA 9 1 15427U 88246.04830122 0.00000178 11867-3 0 2744 2 15427 99.1080 221.9406 0016493 42.8626 317.3828 14.11629880191792 Meteor 2-12 1 15516U 88248.32303024 0.00000084 70453-4 0 204 2 15516 82.5369 172.1018 0015219 194.9274 165.1440 13.83974945181517 Cosmos 1686 1 16095U 88250.99265608 0.00013214 41263-3 0 157 2 16095 51.6109 254.4134 0001655 82.8670 277.2331 15.33498228166302 GPS-0011 1 16129U 88247.80237217 0.00000013 0 2689 2 16129 63.6099 108.0987 0113943 149.6294 211.1149 2.00568300 21290 Meteor 3-01 1 16191U 88236.60355629 0.00000043 10000-3 0 7742 2 16191 82.5481 86.1721 0020066 325.5455 34.4374 13.16933060136351 Meteor 2-13 1 16408U 88249.50807412 0.00000069 57167-4 0 4255 2 16408 82.5328 86.0609 0017389 23.4089 336.7855 13.84061098136177 PRC 18 1 16526U 88235.79404625 -.00000289 0 3085 2 16526 0.0232 262.9523 0001192 300.5890 156.4502 1.00263964 9379 Mir 1 16609U 88250.76688379 0.00083851 59887-3 0 3920 2 16609 51.6207 8.5973 0020002 21.6647 338.4855 15.72772110146670 SPOT 1 1 16613U 88250.76376181 -.00000609 -27775-3 0 1639 2 16613 98.7319 323.4188 0000614 141.9869 218.1478 14.20024526 44470 Meteor 2-14 1 16735U 88236.70113307 0.00000087 73456-4 0 2526 2 16735 82.5386 122.9197 0015263 121.9311 238.3320 13.83793438113311 Cosmos 1766 1 16881U 88250.18121203 0.00000567 84646-4 0 3527 2 16881 82.5257 300.1335 0022399 306.1774 53.7368 14.73825765113446 EGP 1 16908U 88236.71616084 -.00000039 -17789-6 0 1010 2 16908 50.0074 132.5539 0011097 308.4771 51.5067 12.44371843 92370 FO-12 1 16909U 88249.63229916 -.00000025 10000-3 0 1111 2 16909 50.0165 93.0176 0010729 340.2300 19.8116 12.44395793 93972 NOAA 10 1 16969U 88236.61251323 0.00000187 92153-4 0 1565 2 16969 98.6755 266.3377 0014675 36.0783 324.1382 14.22614074100361 Meteor 2-15 1 17290U 88248.37584500 0.00000052 41927-4 0 1862 2 17290 82.4700 22.9971 0012617 348.9118 11.1772 13.83601332 84093 GOES 7 1 17561U 88244.89999990 -.00000223 10000-3 0 1430 2 17561 0.0723 257.6470 0007402 291.5910 40.9660 1.00274314 2688 Kvant 1 17845U 88250.89392788 0.00037779 27439-3 0 5280 2 17845 51.6196 7.9516 0018657 19.5687 340.3843 15.72756839 82969 Cosmos 1834 1 17847U 88250.70543949 0.00030023 33101-5 14011-3 0 7530 2 17847 65.0322 338.8735 0106757 293.6535 65.2601 15.75574708 80347 RS-10/11 1 18129U 88251.06039941 0.00000046 44259-4 0 4988 2 18129 82.9227 87.2885 0012971 114.3028 245.9496 13.71903348 60576 Cosmos 1870 1 18225U 88250.67441540 0.00125406 90977-5 15842-3 0 6335 2 18225 71.9073 96.9776 0005258 177.4923 182.6440 16.07383180 65827 Meteor 2-16 1 18312U 88249.01516629 -.00000206 -19290-3 0 1373 2 18312 82.5756 85.5223 0011169 261.8197 98.1823 13.83355141 53088 Meteor 2-17 1 18820U 88236.91688678 0.00000087 72808-4 0 522 2 18820 82.5463 156.7693 0018029 27.7119 332.4997 13.84035719 28562 AO-13 1 19216U 88243.21393379 -.00000107 10000-3 0 185 2 19216 57.5718 241.3717 6562933 189.7644 145.2660 2.09702313 1622 1988 060A 1 19320U 88237.27233602 0.00023333 28175-3 0 202 2 19320 65.8349 313.9214 0035101 314.5673 44.5213 15.59956336 6360 1988 060B 1 19321U 88224.09665968 0.00029473 33367-3 0 382 2 19321 65.8379 357.3659 0040310 319.3918 40.3856 15.61284900 4316 1988 062A 1 19324U 88232.06942062 0.00000012 59698-5 0 165 2 19324 82.9506 279.0665 0033389 196.9270 163.0774 13.74906671 4282 1988 062B 1 19325U 88235.89428706 0.00000006 0 388 2 19325 82.9482 276.1859 0030244 173.2275 186.9296 13.76100183 4817 1988 063A 1 19330U 88237.81451544 -.00000228 10000-3 0 117 2 19330 0.1524 249.6747 0005190 150.5761 319.9145 1.00269604 166 1988 063B 1 19331U 88238.02981081 0.00000134 10000-3 0 87 2 19331 0.0499 242.0565 0003014 269.6917 208.4554 1.00273505 105 1988 063C 1 19332U 88233.35171945 0.00000110 10000-3 0 151 2 19332 7.3620 88.9581 7279433 202.0001 98.8893 2.25711161 659 Meteor 3-2 1 19336U 88248.76952014 0.00000391 10000-2 0 239 2 19336 82.5479 17.5490 0016515 171.9707 188.1326 13.16839230 5342 1988 064B 1 19337U 88232.42914487 0.00000068 15895-3 0 169 2 19337 82.5451 29.1003 0014623 217.4628 142.5440 13.17016256 3185 1988 065A 1 19338U 88237.75217522 0.00004978 20581-3 0 338 2 19338 65.8417 12.0359 0031720 330.9483 28.9914 15.24638558 4161 1988 065B 1 19339U 88234.51131458 0.00005387 21033-3 0 229 2 19339 65.8436 22.0368 0036745 345.2928 14.7139 15.26293504 3665 1988 066A 1 19344U 88244.86016608 -.00000082 10000-3 0 212 2 19344 1.4535 276.4654 0002512 315.9599 43.4861 1.00272948 308 1988 066D 1 19347U 88235.92952046 -.00000125 10000-3 0 103 2 19347 1.4795 275.0481 0025959 316.0749 43.7936 0.98656931 64 1988 067B 1 19369U 88232.25151577 0.37525208 43611-4 19200-3 0 508 2 19369 63.0017 318.3312 0007155 229.3769 130.6759 16.55237317 2232 1988 069A 1 19377U 88250.15590178 0.00000496 -82288-3 0 267 2 19377 62.8979 100.5620 7382124 288.5571 9.2965 2.00614467 491 1988 069B 1 19378U 88250.76179577 0.00840855 11298-4 11380-2 0 496 2 19378 62.8372 9.8709 0157305 122.5449 239.1413 15.86467255 3969 1988 069C 1 19379U 88250.72993749 0.00834389 38135-4 10155-2 0 503 2 19379 62.8357 10.2200 0176950 117.5205 244.3759 15.84028554 3959 1988 069D 1 19380U 88249.60511897 0.00000392 10000-3 0 54 2 19380 62.8224 100.8198 7455652 288.5150 8.9146 1.95681194 481 1988 070A 1 19384U 88250.97211244 0.00587231 34226-4 32698-3 0 526 2 19384 64.7614 116.0803 0126384 110.0224 251.8098 16.03355193 3459 1988 070B 1 19385U 88234.48412421 0.15755018 37646-4 46522-3 0 172 2 19385 64.7694 177.2040 0037929 70.6694 289.9520 16.40145636 806 1988 071A 1 19397U 88241.61923650 -.00000104 10000-3 0 174 2 19397 1.4980 280.7772 0009262 288.0349 70.5076 1.00282389 119 1988 071B 1 19398U 88234.14037509 0.25339526 61865-4 15063-3 0 123 2 19398 51.6124 261.8610 0003894 251.4721 108.7625 16.54040265 384 1988 071C 1 19399U 88232.43249464 0.42660829 60459-4 16546-2 0 57 2 19399 51.6047 271.5281 0005915 139.2186 221.0726 16.43704915 103 1988 071D 1 19400U 88236.58519663 -.00000295 10000-3 0 186 2 19400 1.4806 277.5016 0021157 19.7081 340.6227 1.00559668 559 1988 072A 1 19412U 88250.82357647 0.00094386 99648-4 0 240 2 19412 70.0000 111.5953 0038599 51.3755 309.1576 16.08184433 2327 1988 073A 1 19414U 88250.85306534 0.00090427 28078-5 14448-3 0 331 2 19414 82.3203 150.5869 0015438 256.2014 103.7731 16.03345037 2314 1988 074A 1 19419U 88245.13596039 0.00000004 0 79 2 19419 89.9682 140.3980 0096961 149.3905 201.0175 13.40085041 917 1988 074B 1 19420U 88246.18245507 0.00000004 0 23 2 19420 89.9695 140.3939 0098054 146.1428 214.6029 13.40252364 1055 1988 074C 1 19421U 88249.76384369 0.00000003 0 75 2 19421 89.9691 140.3832 0096054 135.6113 225.2891 13.40506899 1539 1988 075A 1 19443U 88244.15821852 0.00296580 53357-4 28340-3 0 122 2 19443 51.6160 42.4845 0019127 226.6333 133.3772 16.10806537 333 1988 076A 1 19445U 88250.58859721 0.00000074 18792-1 0 91 2 19445 62.9393 141.0662 7368941 318.1993 4.6875 2.00712562 150 1988 076B 1 19446U 88250.74326979 0.00575433 99235-5 10364-2 0 216 2 19446 62.8493 115.7965 0229427 121.1480 241.2418 15.68144894 1121 1988 076C 1 19447U 88250.73689541 0.01447059 37478-4 94862-3 0 177 2 19447 62.8558 115.7165 0251325 122.6871 239.8846 15.75245881 1133 1988 076D 1 19448U 88244.13418685 0.00000167 10000-3 0 20 2 19448 62.9146 142.0637 7343273 318.1465 4.8146 2.04038063 27 1988 079A 1 19462U 88250.93155472 -.00050600 11685-4 -44369-4 0 35 2 19462 72.8777 101.5465 0140755 87.6007 274.7054 15.95025324 100 1988 079B 1 19463U 88250.99378891 0.01194915 11249-4 99111-3 0 42 2 19463 72.8791 101.4242 0131699 85.2547 279.3034 15.97868467 114 1988 080A 1 19467U 88251.18767716 -.00000018 0 49 2 19467 99.1293 219.5016 0016396 40.5417 319.6977 14.00339723 51 1988 080B 1 19468U 88251.25893983 -.00000018 0 22 2 19468 99.1124 219.5740 0010521 338.5131 21.5761 14.00769866 62 Dr TS Kelso Asst Professor of Space Operations tkelso@icc.afit.af.mil Air Force Institute of Technology ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Sep 88 04:00:14 PDT From: Eugene Miya Subject: Frequently asked SPACE questions This is a list of frequently asked questions on SPACE (which goes back before 1980). It is in development. Good summaries will be accepted in place of the answers given here. The point of these is to circulate existing information, and avoid rehashing old answers. Better to build on top than start again. Nothing more depressing than rehashing for the 100th time. Initially, this message will be automatically posted once per month and hopefully, we can cut it back to quarterly. In time questions and good answers will be added (and maybe removed, nah). 1) Can't they use those Shuttle tanks as an orbiting resource rather than let them crash into the sea? Yes, this question was thought about and answered in the mid-late 70s. The problem is there is no sense in keeping an unguided object in space until you need it. There actually is a company devoted to developing them as a resource (Denver/Boulder area). These tanks are regarded as the Territory of the US so are treated like land area. 2) Fermi's paradox: [Why they have not heard us yet] Too open ended. ;-) 3) What can be done for Shuttle Crew escape systems: Good open ended question. Why there isn't one now: Cost (weight, complexity, dollars, explosive devices in crew area). Escape capsules have had a less than good history. The B-1 caspule was unstable after 350 MPH. It's a trade off. There is also a history of "ride the bird home." 4) Where can I learn about space computers: shuttle, programming, core memories? %J Communications of the ACM %V 27 %N 9 %D September 1984 %K Special issue on space [shuttle] computers 5) What about SETI computation articles? %A D. K. Cullers %A Ivan R. Linscott %A Bernard M. Oliver %T Signal Processing in SETI %J Communications of the ACM %V 28 %N 11 %D November 1984 %P 1151-1163 %K CR Categories and Subject Descriptors: D.4.1 [Operating Systems]: Process Management - concurrency; I.5.4 [Pattern Recognition]: Applications - signal processing; J.2 [Phsyical Sciences and Engineering]: astronomy General Terms: Design Additional Key Words and Phrases: digital Fourier transforms, finite impulse-response filters, interstellar communications, Search for Extra-terrestrial Intelligence, signal detection, spectrum analysis 6) SDI questions: these frequently appear all the time. They do not appear to be resolveable but the usual network shouting. The issues are: 7) What about blasting waste into space? Another frequently asked question (expensive solution looking for a problem). Have you considered recycling? n-1) How do I get a job in space? There are two different concerns here. 1) If seasonal like summer, you must start looking between the months of January-March, this means preparation in December. Reminders are posted at that time with addresses, etc. 2) Permanent, a list of contracting aerospace companies was assembled by Ken Jenks (now successfully working at Rockwell, but without a net address [see! space uses modern technology]). Send mail request such to one of the network personalities (Dale, Henry, Phil, etc., myself) we will try to update the list yearly. P.S. It helps to learn Russian and Japanese. n) Where do I find information about space? Try you local public library first. The net is not a good place for this. It's a better place for open ended discussions. Next trying writing real letters to the Public Relations or Public Information Offices of NASA, ESA, JSA, USAF, DOD, and their various contractors. They can inundate you. Also try the telephone (check a phone directory can all offices at various places [addresses posted occasionally]). We will also try to have designed net `experts' on where to get more information. ------------------------------ End of SPACE Digest V8 #365 *******************