Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 7997;andrew.cmu.edu;Ted Anderson Received: from holmes.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for +dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr1/ota/space/space.dl@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr1/ota/space/space.dl) (->ota+space.digests) ID ; Sun, 28 May 89 00:20:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU From: space-request+@Andrew.CMU.EDU To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU Date: Sun, 28 May 89 00:20:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: SPACE Digest V9 #462 SPACE Digest Volume 9 : Issue 462 Today's Topics: NASA Prediction Bulletins Re: Teach your children well Re: Memes: can memetic theory explain this episode? How Hubble will get there Re: How Hubble will get there Re: Teach your children well ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 27 May 89 19:04:55 GMT From: tkelso@blackbird.afit.af.mil (TS Kelso) Subject: NASA Prediction Bulletins The most current orbital elements from the NASA Prediction Bulletins are carried on the Celestial RCP/M, (513) 427-0674, and are updated several times weekly. Documentation and tracking software are also available on this system. As a service to the satellite user community, the most current of these elements are uploaded weekly to sci.space. This week's elements are provided below. The Celestial RCP/M may be accessed 24 hours/day at 300, 1200, or 2400 baud using 8 data bits, 1 stop bit, no parity. - Current NASA Prediction Bulletins #517 - Alouette 1 1 00424U 89144.84085712 0.00000430 50573-3 0 2049 2 00424 80.4625 308.8650 0022906 189.7346 170.3394 13.67144906329624 ATS 3 1 03029U 67111 A 89127.73360661 -.00000073 00000-0 99999-4 0 2251 2 03029 12.6818 24.5051 0014234 193.9434 165.9362 1.00272634 78738 LAGEOS 1 08820U 89143.19631086 0.00000003 0 7558 2 08820 109.8282 221.5191 0044873 321.2712 38.4832 6.38663632 49032 GOES 2 1 10061U 77048 A 89141.83993263 -.00000009 00000-0 00000 0 0 2633 2 10061 7.0900 68.5793 0005415 177.7014 182.0551 1.00278098 5110 GPS-0001 1 10684U 89139.53623295 0.00000011 10000-3 0 1216 2 10684 63.5532 101.7321 0107762 199.2805 160.2727 2.00560981 67950 GPS-0002 1 10893U 78 47 A 89137.99862650 -.00000028 00000-0 00000 0 0 9798 2 10893 64.5286 342.6121 0155489 29.3287 331.4770 2.00556930 80740 GOES 3 1 10953U 78062 A 89140.89064257 .00000079 00000-0 99999-4 0 6581 2 10953 5.9601 71.3115 0005919 277.4090 82.2234 1.00281321 663 SeaSat 1 1 10967U 78064 A 89140.05821680 .00001244 00000-0 48309-3 0 1169 2 10967 108.0055 229.6754 0002670 252.3859 107.6979 14.34578957570057 GPS-0003 1 11054U 89135.81972682 -.00000027 0 90 2 11054 64.0718 339.1421 0055368 117.0090 243.5906 2.00561124 77719 GPS-0004 1 11141U 89141.40778364 0.00000011 0 1521 2 11141 63.5617 101.5565 0058415 321.3702 38.1743 2.00573960 76520 NOAA 6 1 11416U 79 57 A 89136.05520938 .00001106 00000-0 48169-3 0 8460 2 11416 98.5063 134.0541 0011216 198.4608 161.6187 14.25737820513324 Solar Max 1 11703U 89145.11070757 0.00048275 81458-3 0 9520 2 11703 28.5030 81.9387 0001476 341.0583 18.9937 15.50251710516253 GPS-0006 1 11783U 80 32 A 89141.86267015 -.00000027 00000-0 00000 0 0 8900 2 11783 63.7306 338.5710 0149556 63.7630 297.7776 2.00568572 66472 GOES 4 1 11964U 89 97.28408596 -.00000249 10000-3 0 569 2 11964 4.7936 76.3436 0158171 23.8450 337.0124 0.99392857 1324 GOES 5 1 12472U 81049 A 89141.74455507 -.00000241 00000-0 99999-4 0 7296 2 12472 2.5243 79.7760 0005046 217.5212 142.9813 1.00246455 28347 SME 1 12887U 81100 A 89143.57846926 .00017523 00000-0 63915-3 0 1962 2 12887 97.6872 168.8171 0002308 45.9003 314.2431 15.28222761421396 UOSAT 1 1 12888U 81100 B 89143.10166730 .00067182 00000-0 92658-3 0 5696 2 12888 97.5557 195.1436 0003104 183.5591 176.5650 15.56982352425081 Meteor 2-08 1 13113U 82 25 A 89139.29870599 .00000250 00000-0 21521-3 0 6386 2 13113 82.5366 81.7237 0015637 137.6013 222.6358 13.83990228361241 Salyut 7 1 13138U 89144.65553428 0.00003151 79420-4 0 5834 2 13138 51.6103 72.6642 0001022 57.3969 302.7369 15.41205394404568 LandSat 4 1 13367U 82 72 A 89142.60765872 .00000084 00000-0 23629-4 0 9598 2 13367 98.2136 206.5783 0001250 317.8153 42.2975 14.57098905364345 Meteor 2-09 1 13718U 89137.44615328 0.00000555 28639-3 0 7736 2 13718 81.2435 311.6245 0057220 86.1533 274.6209 14.13181782331215 IRAS 1 13777U 89138.33645661 0.00000549 40687-3 0 6361 2 13777 99.0461 335.8582 0014071 37.9801 322.2356 13.98592460322020 TDRS 1 1 13969U 83 26 B 89139.64876346 -.00000233 00000-0 99999-5 0 7943 2 13969 3.4033 71.0328 0001971 74.8900 284.3462 1.00275010 89114 GOES 6 1 14050U 83 41 A 89141.94134694 .00000122 00000-0 00000 0 0 9544 2 14050 1.2346 83.2478 0000938 146.6872 212.4016 1.00267368 6346 OSCAR 10 1 14129U 83 58 B 89133.63044561 -.00000018 00000-0 00000 0 0 3986 2 14129 26.2912 265.5123 6056158 41.6955 351.1922 2.05880761 16508 GPS-0008 1 14189U 89136.96497340 -.00000008 -60386+2 0 6286 2 14189 63.1877 100.3306 0135226 215.5846 143.4804 2.00569782 42818 Meteor 2-10 1 14452U 83109 A 89136.52887798 .00000543 00000-0 22931-3 0 7189 2 14452 81.1629 325.2796 0094384 187.1890 172.7941 14.22158661288040 LandSat 5 1 14780U 89144.62994452 0.00006161 13753-2 0 7674 2 14780 98.1682 207.3241 0002078 1.2280 358.9388 14.57142270278133 UOSAT 2 1 14781U 84 21 B 89139.19293824 .00002536 00000-0 49730-3 0 4474 2 14781 98.0032 198.8283 0014858 53.1318 307.1367 14.63517545278309 LDEF 1 14898U 84 34 B 89142.89756837 .00030579 00000-0 53333-3 0 8528 2 14898 28.5068 354.7032 0002762 343.6675 16.3330 15.49287204287528 GPS-0009 1 15039U 89136.02595318 0.00000010 0 6602 2 15039 62.9135 99.6471 0015753 274.1210 85.6726 2.00564301 36071 Meteor 2-11 1 15099U 84 72 A 89139.67288665 .00000399 00000-0 35094-3 0 9392 2 15099 82.5317 29.0563 0013120 325.0580 34.9696 13.83660067246174 GPS-0010 1 15271U 89136.42575814 -.00000028 0 6210 2 33271 63.3738 338.5510 0099419 320.5931 38.7289 2.00565115 33196 Cosmos 1602 1 15331U 84105 A 89143.06318279 .00002575 00000-0 37305-3 0 241 2 15331 82.5408 1.6440 0024026 162.3622 197.8382 14.75550734250515 NOAA 9 1 15427U 89141.35005720 0.00000911 51801-3 0 3738 2 15427 99.1413 127.7700 0016179 31.8599 328.3547 14.12013078228664 Meteor 2-12 1 15516U 89138.96557245 0.00000230 19654-3 0 803 2 15516 82.5355 328.0112 0015387 194.4767 165.5957 13.84103834217011 Cosmos 1686 1 16095U 89144.85006596 -.00002817 -61957-4 0 2619 2 16095 51.6091 71.7119 0001229 34.7504 325.4212 15.41205907404593 GPS-0011 1 16129U 89137.07911354 0.00000011 0 3148 2 16129 63.7070 100.2358 0115839 150.3801 210.2537 2.00564823 26411 Meteor 3-1 1 16191U 89140.70296138 0.00000043 10000-3 0 8300 2 16191 82.5502 255.1708 0019818 10.0172 350.1329 13.16870093171907 Meteor 2-13 1 16408U 89140.71391474 0.00000269 23213-3 0 4903 2 16408 82.5360 241.4687 0017121 23.1854 337.0072 13.84170127171759 Mir 1 16609U 89144.63267446 0.00013525 21094-3 0 8584 2 16609 51.6215 121.2206 0011213 341.2191 18.8603 15.54108918187506 SPOT 1 1 16613U 89144.83383565 -.00012831 -60515-2 0 4758 2 16613 98.7380 219.6453 0000973 142.1438 217.9730 14.19988763 8818 Meteor 2-14 1 16735U 89140.82632696 0.00000312 27212-3 0 3004 2 16735 82.5355 268.1911 0015883 87.7838 272.5142 13.83911192150676 Cosmos 1766 1 16881U 89144.72318619 0.00007518 11055-2 0 6145 2 16881 82.5262 59.6751 0023158 171.4161 188.7288 14.75169015151833 EGP 1 16908U 86 61 A 89142.42533593 -.00000045 00000-0 -43229-4 0 1259 2 16908 50.0135 17.2815 0011058 280.6652 79.2940 12.44377531126207 FO-12 1 16909U 86 61 B 89141.68312223 -.00000025 00000-0 99999-4 0 1456 2 16909 50.0144 19.7909 0011031 275.9006 84.0546 12.44399338126104 NOAA 10 1 16969U 89141.36433320 0.00000842 39080-3 0 2201 2 16969 98.6398 172.3670 0013451 333.4036 26.6449 14.23003626140124 Meteor 2-15 1 17290U 89140.09985266 0.00000219 18837-3 0 2518 2 17290 82.4671 176.3094 0013541 348.5954 11.4894 13.83719409119734 MOS-1 1 17527U 87 18 A 89142.64089760 -.00000551 00000-0 -39713-3 0 1250 2 17527 99.1503 214.3116 0001278 102.9883 257.1399 13.94849764114814 GOES 7 1 17561U 87 22 A 89141.63589100 -.00000041 00000-0 99999-4 0 2745 2 17561 0.0121 303.4742 0001425 197.7392 218.8261 1.00277144 1497 Kvant 1 17845U 89144.82553237 0.00045071 68238-3 0 7619 2 17845 51.6198 120.2628 0011673 343.1042 16.6913 15.54129731123801 RS-10/11 1 18129U 87 54 A 89142.87048828 .00000182 00000-0 18865-3 0 7657 2 18129 82.9270 256.8466 0013166 119.4720 240.7770 13.71976888 95929 Cosmos 1870 1 18225U 89144.74157572 0.00152150 11958-4 22408-3 0 477 2 18225 71.8672 117.9276 0010137 242.5711 117.4063 16.04795694107537 Meteor 2-16 1 18312U 89140.27866792 0.00000219 18868-3 0 2712 2 18312 82.5559 241.6411 0010789 275.9094 84.0851 13.83468294 88652 Meteor 2-17 1 18820U 89140.85010641 0.00000180 15185-3 0 1135 2 18820 82.5420 302.2807 0016805 350.6080 9.4762 13.84154451 65900 AO-13 1 19216U 89 89.37166448 -.00000028 10000-3 0 346 2 19216 57.2895 213.9669 6688587 201.4192 106.6281 2.09699506 6084 OKEAN 1 1 19274U 88 56 A 89142.87602340 .00001279 00000-0 18757-3 0 3819 2 19274 82.5154 160.0157 0021512 318.1038 41.8482 14.74688316 47359 Meteor 3-2 1 19336U 89140.91635919 0.00000390 10000-2 0 1971 2 19336 82.5438 194.9494 0016861 208.3214 151.6986 13.16845822 39329 NOAA 11 1 19531U 89141.32770476 0.00000752 43887-3 0 771 2 19531 98.9370 85.4729 0011599 313.1175 46.9025 14.10998035 33684 TDRS 2 1 19548U 88 91 B 89 88.95555250 .00000129 00000-0 99999-4 0 220 2 19548 0.3759 85.6281 0002664 253.4727 20.8853 1.00266482 994 GPS-0014 1 19802U 89 13 A 89138.08673647 .00000015 00000-0 99999-4 0 368 2 19802 55.1186 213.0064 0068830 155.7676 204.6269 2.00554512 1820 Meteor 2-18 1 19851U 89139.85198623 0.00000116 10000-3 0 381 2 19851 82.5223 181.7988 0015571 33.1244 327.2402 13.83799887 11168 TDRS 3 1 19883U 89 21 B 89140.54014464 -.00000206 00000-0 99999-4 0 145 2 19883 0.2650 70.1857 0004792 60.6512 229.2573 1.01123680 422 1989 027B 1 19920U 89119.09018115 -.00044246 19062-4 -69849-5 0 349 2 19920 4.5235 17.2364 7326100 212.1714 83.2276 2.31530723 635 Cosmos 2016 1 19921U 89122.43552170 0.00000152 15077-3 0 273 2 19921 82.9594 120.0189 0038515 217.6923 142.1535 13.73921585 3800 1989 028B 1 19922U 89117.08932977 0.00000059 54697-4 0 296 2 19922 82.9550 123.9075 0033528 215.3243 144.7293 13.75750065 3071 Raduga 23 1 19928U 89137.18522349 -.00000154 10000-3 0 446 2 19928 1.3545 277.7136 0002516 53.1772 306.5633 1.00268455 345 1980 030D 1 19931U 89128.45891538 -.00000015 10000-3 0 131 2 19931 1.4156 276.8888 0017886 17.5390 342.5731 0.97924528 252 Cosmos 2018 1 19938U 89138.65810262 0.00948361 40344-4 31726-3 0 701 2 19938 62.7992 325.3796 0098866 65.6693 295.4718 16.13844776 4494 1989 033C 1 19970U 89137.23696754 0.00005355 18531-2 0 152 2 19970 28.0053 331.8252 6564429 14.0215 357.8855 3.20955312 392 1989 036A 1 19986U 89145.16571216 0.00758760 34632-4 31407-3 0 218 2 19986 64.7820 77.3863 0120024 88.1646 268.1558 16.07714677 1235 1989 037A 1 20000U 89145.23895233 0.00129520 54825-5 10994-3 0 67 2 20000 69.9539 79.5998 0048321 13.5132 346.6679 16.10742593 138 1989 037B 1 20001U 89144.98924932 0.02785553 20643-4 12706-2 0 44 2 20001 69.9617 80.3629 0050215 63.2940 297.4536 16.18400335 94 -- Dr TS Kelso Asst Professor of Space Operations tkelso@blackbird.afit.af.mil Air Force Institute of Technology ------------------------------ Date: 24 May 89 22:27:43 GMT From: biar!trebor@cu-arpa.cs.cornell.edu (Robert J Woodhead) Subject: Re: Teach your children well In article <8905231950.AA01928@ti.com> pyron@lvvax1.csc.ti.com (Who remembers 8USER.PAR?) writes: >I am never so frustrated and morose about our prospects for the future as >when I find someone misunderstanding science. Phrases like "it's been >light-years since I saw home" (_Hard Time on Planet Earth_) ... This is known as the ``Kessel Run Syndrome'' and is a cliche in the movie business, as are computers with lots of flashing lights, etc. -- Robert J Woodhead, Biar Games, Inc. !uunet!biar!trebor | trebor@biar.UUCP ``The worst thing about being a vampire is that you can't go to matinees and save money anymore.'' ------------------------------ Date: 24 May 89 02:45:53 GMT From: portal!cup.portal.com!hkhenson@uunet.uu.net (H Keith Henson) Subject: Re: Memes: can memetic theory explain this episode? Michael Sloan MacLeod (amdahl!drivax!macleod) recently posted a story about a South Pole group which (under the influence of a spliced together tape) had reached the state where they could hardly communicate with the summer shift change. He requested input from "a memeticist" to explain what was going on. From the memetics viewpoint human minds are as vulnerable to some classes of memes as computers are to computer viruses. The origin of this vulnerability is the ability of people to learn from each other. Just as computers can communicate viruses to each other, we can communicate accents, jokes, social movements, etc. I find (to my great annoyance) that I pick up "you know" if I am in the presence of people who use it. There is no simple way I can see to get around this vulnerability; our cells can't give up replicating DNA to avoid viruses, and we can't give up our ability to learn from one another. In the particular environment involved in this case, even those slow to pick up others' traits would get them from incessant exposure. As to the details of why this spliced tape had such a strong effect in this particular case, I would very much like more details and a cance to look at the tape. Keith Henson ------------------------------ Date: 24 May 89 15:00:01 GMT From: phil@rice.edu (William LeFebvre) Subject: How Hubble will get there [ Excuse the cross-posting, please. ] Here's something I found out yesterday. Currently, the Hubble Space Telescope is being stored in California. Everyone knows that it is going to be launched (some day) on a shuttle from the Cape (Florida east coast). But apparently, the only safe way to transport it is by boat. Which means it will almost certainly have to go thru the Panama canal.........Let's hope things improve down that way in the next year. Sigh. William LeFebvre Department of Computer Science Rice University ------------------------------ Date: 25 May 89 00:44:06 GMT From: jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!utgpu!utzoo!henry@rutgers.edu (Henry Spencer) Subject: Re: How Hubble will get there In article <3313@kalliope.rice.edu> phil@rice.edu () writes: >it will almost certainly have to go thru the Panama canal.........Let's >hope things improve down that way in the next year. Sigh. Fortunately, the situation has changed. The USAF has refitted a couple of C-5s to carry large military space payloads, and one of them will be borrowed to take HST to the Cape. The possibility of encountering trouble going via Panama wasn't entirely lost on NASA, although they were thinking of terrorism rather than unstable governments (officially, at least). But until the C-5 refit was well underway, there wasn't an alternative. -- Van Allen, adj: pertaining to | Henry Spencer at U of Toronto Zoology deadly hazards to spaceflight. | uunet!attcan!utzoo!henry henry@zoo.toronto.edu ------------------------------ Date: 24 May 89 13:41:45 GMT From: ecsvax!ruslan@mcnc.org (Robin C. LaPasha) Subject: Re: Teach your children well > >>> My wife's sixth-grade students want to know... > >> > >> Teach them the difference between theory and observation, and you'll do > >> them a life-long favor. > >> > >Absolutely. > > I am never so frustrated and morose about our prospects for the future as > when I find someone misunderstanding science. Phrases like "it's been > light-years since I saw home" (_Hard Time on Planet Earth_) or the number > of people who use the word new-cue-ler to describe a certain energy source > are just chops at our scientifc position. > > Dillon Pyron | The opinions are mine, the facts Not to diverge too far into sci.lang's proper territory here, but I suspect that the nuclear > nucular stuff is an unconscious reversal. Things like that tend to happen with l's and r's; I caught a linguistics professor saying that, tried to point it out to him, but he wouldn't acknowledge (1)that he'd said anything but the standard version, and (2)that there was a difference... such stubbornness! In other words, I'd say it's a language issue rather than one of scientific information. Oh, I'm five hundred light-years away from home... (See? Maybe we can fight back with folk songs?!) ;^) ;^) ;^) -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=- Robin LaPasha |Deep-Six your ruslan@ecsvax.uncecs.edu |files with VI! ;^) ;^) ;^) ------------------------------ End of SPACE Digest V9 #462 *******************