Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 7997;andrew.cmu.edu;Ted Anderson Received: from corsica.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for +dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr1/ota/space/space.dl@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr1/ota/space/space.dl) (->ota+space.digests) ID ; Sun, 3 Sep 89 00:20:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4Z0-O5S00UkVEN4E5z@andrew.cmu.edu> Reply-To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU From: space-request+@Andrew.CMU.EDU To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU Date: Sun, 3 Sep 89 00:20:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: SPACE Digest V10 #15 SPACE Digest Volume 10 : Issue 15 Today's Topics: Yeeeooooow! Too many anon ftp's of Neptune! Re: Triton update Re: Does this proposal make sense? Re: NASA Headline News for 08/28/89 (Forwarded) Re: voyager audio Re: Voyager Interstellar Trajectory Re: Direct Information Re: Future probe to Pluto SOLRAD Society for UFO Research ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 28 Aug 89 22:35:18 GMT From: agate!shelby!portia!hanauma.stanford.edu!joe@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Joe Dellinger) Subject: Yeeeooooow! Too many anon ftp's of Neptune! Boy, those Neptune pictures are VERY popular. In fact, we're getting a new ftp connection about every 15 seconds now! It's driving our load average through the roof! Sorry, but I'm going to have to pull the plug until I can set up the anon ftp account on another unused machine! Sorry! \ /\ /\ /\/\/\/\/\/\/\.-.-.-.-.......___________ \ / \ / \ /Dept of Geophysics, Stanford University \/\/\.-.-....___ \/ \/ \/Joe Dellinger joe@hanauma.stanford.edu apple!hanauma!joe\/\.-._ ------------------------------ Date: 28 Aug 89 13:01:18 GMT From: crdgw1!crdos1!davidsen@uunet.uu.net (Wm E Davidsen Jr) Subject: Re: Triton update Any idea when the public will be able to get copies of the pictures? -- bill davidsen (davidsen@crdos1.crd.GE.COM -or- uunet!crdgw1!crdos1!davidsen) "The world is filled with fools. They blindly follow their so-called 'reason' in the face of the church and common sense. Any fool can see that the world is flat!" - anon ------------------------------ Date: 28 Aug 89 04:07:01 GMT From: ibmpa!szabonj@uunet.uu.net (nick szabo) Subject: Re: Does this proposal make sense? n article <655@eplrx7.UUCP> leipold@eplrx7.UUCP (Walt Leipold) writes: >In article <1786@ibmpa.UUCP> szabonj@ibmpa.UUCP (nick szabo) writes: >>To create and run a business--especially one involving so many different >>technologies and different kinds of people, like aerospace--requires people >>who are reasonably knowledgeable in all areas, not those who are whiz-bang >>geniuses in their technical specialty. > >Are you arguing that we don't need whiz-bang geniuses? No! We need all the technical geniuses we can get. But people who are geniuses in only one area do not belong in positions of responsibility. >Or that the main >business of a high-tech company is business rather than high technology? The main business of any business is returning investment and providing a service to customers. This can be done with high-tech or low-tech, depending on the circumstaces. >As a group, the engineers and scientists I've known have been much more >knowledgeable about financial and management matters than their management >counterparts have been about technology. I'm an engineer, and have worked with many different kinds of engineers. It is the rare engineer who can describe even the the most basic business matters, such as why the customer wants your service, what is customer's budget, what is the company's budget, what level of support is the customer being promised, etc. Many engineers even lack in technical, but cross-discipline subjects such as, how is the product I am designing being manufactured, and how can the design reduce the cost of its manufacture? Now, introduce the scads of "people-stuff" that business must deal with, such as laws, regulations, advertising, sales, public relations, recruting, motivating employees, hiring/firing decisions, etc. and the engineer and his equations are left out in the cold. N.B.: there are many exceptions! Andy Grove of Intel is expemplary. But for every Andy Grove there are a many David Thompsons (the MBA who started Orbital Sciences Inc., the fastest-growing space company on the planet). >There is a large population of managers out there that believes that >clever management can outwit physical law -- and they make that same >mistake over and over again! This is undoubtedly true as well. Such managers do not belong in high-tech. Nick Szabo uunet!ibmsupt!szabonj These opinions are not related to Big Blue's. ------------------------------ Date: 28 Aug 89 23:17:32 GMT From: thorin!alanine!leech@mcnc.org (Jonathan Leech) Subject: Re: NASA Headline News for 08/28/89 (Forwarded) In article <30980@ames.arc.nasa.gov> yee@trident.arc.nasa.gov (Peter E. Yee) writes: >Tuesday will also be the last day of coverage for the VOyager >encounter with Neptune. Coverage begins at noon, and the >mission's final press conference is scheduled to begin at 1 P.M. The press conference has been rescheduled to 9:30 (12:30 Eastern), according to an announcement at the end of today's press conference. -- Jon Leech (leech@cs.unc.edu) __@/ "A compact set can be controlled by a finite police force no matter how dumb." H. Weyl ca. 1938 ------------------------------ Date: 28 Aug 89 15:00:00 GMT From: ncspm!jay@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu (Jay C. Smith) Subject: Re: voyager audio In article <598@mit-amt.MEDIA.MIT.EDU> adam@mit-amt.MEDIA.MIT.EDU (Adam Glass) writes: >That's funny; it was on a Boston radio station the other day (yes, the >WHOLE LP). I think the station was WMBR, but I'm not sure... I'll >try to get in contact with them, I suppose... The local public radio station here (WUNC) played the same thing last week, but during a break half-way through it the announcer mentioned that the recording was not commercially available. He should have mentioned that before he began playing it. -- "Good. For a minute I thought we were in trouble." --------------------------------------------------------------------- Jay C. Smith uucp: ...!mcnc!ncsuvx!ncspm!jay Domain: jay@ncspm.ncsu.edu internet: jay%ncspm@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu ------------------------------ Date: 28 Aug 89 18:53:42 GMT From: philmtl!philabs!briar.philips.com!rfc@uunet.uu.net (Robert Casey;6282;3.57;$0201) Subject: Re: Voyager Interstellar Trajectory In article <4255@utastro.UUCP> terry@astro.UUCP (Terry Hancock) writes: >> >>The answer was that in 8,000 years it will fly by Barnard's Star, in 20,000 or >>so it will pass Proxima Centauri, and then the Oort cloud. >> I saw in the Planetary Report a diagram of sorts that described some "approaches" of some stars by Voyager 2. It was something like "When Voyager 2 is 1/4 ly from the Sun, it makes its closest approach to (some star) and it comes as "close" as 4 lys. Not exactly a near miss! * sun | | <-closest approach to this star-> +----------------------------------------------------* star | | | exit Oort cloud | V Voyager's path I don't see that the above "approach" as being significant, as it's still pretty far away from that star. And this should show how Voyager can have its closest approach to some star and still not have left the Oort cloud. I myself wouldn't call anything an approach unless the Voyager's cameras could take pictures much better than telescopes on Earth (This ignores issues like how long the spacecraft can last before it dies, or how far we can maintain communications, etc). for what it's worth... ------------------------------ Date: 29 Aug 89 03:12:04 GMT From: bfmny0!tneff@uunet.uu.net (Tom Neff) Subject: Re: Direct Information I hate to be coy but I'm literally afraid that if I post the NRAO Universal Time service # the service will be overwhelmed. I may be paranoid but then that's what everybody's saying about me behind my back anyway, so why not. :-) If someone from NRAO or sister bureaucracy wants to post it, lead on. I wash my hands. (I should have known I'd get into trouble dragging that factoid into the discussion anyway.) -- "We walked on the moon -- (( Tom Neff you be polite" )) tneff@bfmny0.UU.NET ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Aug 89 8:03:41 CDT From: Will Martin Subject: Re: Future probe to Pluto >It was up against such projects as the >Lunar Polar Orbiter for a new start, however, so I doubt if it was >selected by NASA in this year's planning session. Total cost is ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >estimated at $500, the same cost as the Lunar Orbiter. The Pluto probe ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >would be a clone of the Cassini orbiter launched on a Titan4/Centaur. Well, I'm feeling generous today. At that price, I'll pay for the Pluto probe. Where do I send my check? You can paint my name on the side... Heck, I'll go whole hog, and for $1000 pay for both it *and* the Lunar Orbiter! :-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-) Regards, Will ------------------------------ Date: 28 Aug 89 20:26:26 GMT From: cs.utexas.edu!oakhill!charlie@uunet.uu.net (Charlie Thompson) Subject: SOLRAD This question could probably be best answered by Dr. T.S. Kelso if he's listening.... I notice that there is a new bird in the NASA predictions bulletins.. namely the SOLRAD R/B satellite. Does anybody have any info on SOLRAD?? Is it large and visible on the right orbits? Thanks in advance, Charlie Thompson WB4HVD ------------------------------ Date: 28 Aug 89 18:51:41 GMT From: astroatc!brown@speedy.wisc.edu (Vidiot) Subject: Society for UFO Research I have a friend interested in information regarding the Society for UFO Research in Phoenix, AZ. Also anything that you may have regarding the founder, Joseph Allan Hynek (other than he is dead). Please send me information, or references to data, via e-mail. It will be appreciated. Please do not post, as I do not read this newsgroup. Thanks in advance. -- harvard\ att!nicmad\ Vidiot ucbvax!uwvax..........!astroatc!brown rutgers/ decvax!nicmad/ ARPA/INTERNET: brown%astroatc.UUCP@spool.cs.wisc.edu ------------------------------ End of SPACE Digest V10 #15 *******************