Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 32766 Received: from beak.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for +dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr11/tm2b/space/space.dl@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr11/tm2b/space/space.dl) (->ota+space.digests) ID ; Tue, 9 Jan 90 13:41:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from beak.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 5 Jan 90 02:01:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0Zd4L9y00VcJQ3Vk4B@andrew.cmu.edu> Reply-To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU From: space-request+@Andrew.CMU.EDU To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU Date: Fri, 5 Jan 90 01:59:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: SPACE Digest V10 #376 SPACE Digest Volume 10 : Issue 376 Today's Topics: Re: You don't get to go. Payload Status for 12/21/89 (Forwarded) Re: New years eve 1999 add to subscription list Re: Techno-welfare Re: The time thread that won't die. Cray Research Inc. awarded contract for two advanced supercomputers (Forwarded) antigravity Information sources for frequent space questions (1 of n) Re: Is this true? Re: Big Bang - no more ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 19 Dec 89 09:12:03 GMT From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!nisc.nyser.net!rodan!retants@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (retants) Subject: Re: You don't get to go. In article <8912170324.AA16279@trout.nosc.mil> jim@pnet01.cts.COM (Jim Bowery) writes: >Those of you who don't know who I'm referring to are the reason >none of us will ever go to space. Yammering at each other >on the net without knowing the players or the rules of the game >is kind of like playing blindfold chess after consuming large >quantities of Jack Daniels. It may be a lot of fun but, surprise, >surprise, you lose. > Well, congradulations, you've succesfully offended those of us who are still trying to LEARN all this stuff and don't KNOW the players yet. So, will someone with a few more manners perhaps write up a play list of who's doing what to whom? just the facts...I prefer to draw my own opinions...... >I'm mad because you can't just sit here and die by yourself. >You cravenly join other Believers in fighting those, like me, who >are trying to make real things happen in space because JSC Propoganda >informs you that we aren't in line with the Big Lie. Decades pass. >We all grow old and gray. Nothing real happens in space. well, have you got that off your chest? next time, if you want to sway peoples opinions, try not to insult them in the same breath. -=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=- -=*=- Becki Tants RETANTS@SUNRISE.BITNET RETANTS@RODAN.ACS.SYR.EDU -=*=- -=*=- Disclaimer: Improbability Factor 1 to 1. We have Normalcy. -=*=- -=*=- Anything you still can't cope with is your own problem. -=*=- -=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=- ------------------------------ Date: 21 Dec 89 22:32:42 GMT From: trident.arc.nasa.gov!yee@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Peter E. Yee) Subject: Payload Status for 12/21/89 (Forwarded) Daily Status/KSC Payload Management and Operations 12-21-89 - STS-31R HST (at VPF) - Wide Field Planetary Camera (WF/PC) installation was completed. The every four hour wasp inspection of the VPF highbay is continuing. Facility HVAC monitoring continues. - STS-32R SYNCOM (at Pad A) - Battery conditioning will continue through 23 December and will pick back up again on 29 December. - STS-35 ASTRO-1/BBXRT (at O&C) - AST vacuum system was hoisted to cite rails and the hoist of the HUT pump platform 2 side rails were completed. BBXRT MLI installation continues. Access platforms continue to be installed as well as the cabling and configuring of ASTRO-1 for cite testing which will begin on the first week in January. - STS-40 SLS-1 (at O&C) - Rack 7 upper mods continues. Rack 3 installation of cable tie struts and fire suppression system hardware is complete. Installation of rack 4 intercom remote station worked yesterday. Module pyrell foam replacement continues. - STS-42 IML (at O&C) - Rack 9 cable tie struts worked yesterday. ------------------------------ Date: 22 Dec 89 07:52:26 GMT From: ogicse!blake!wiml@ucsd.edu (William Lewis) Subject: Re: New years eve 1999 In article <2925@munnari.oz.au> dnk@munmurra.UUCP (David Kinny) writes: >Again the same stupid claims are being advanced that the end of the >century/millenium is at the end of the year 2000. This is ludicrous ! [...] >that differ only in the last 1/2/3 digits. I know when I'll be >celebrating the New Year's Eve party of the millenium. Hands up all >those clods who are going to be a year late. Well, there is an obvious solution to this. I'm going to be celebrating on the boundary between this millennium and the next... to avoid confusion, I will get the best of both worlds, and simply celebrate all year long in the year 2000. A little impractical, perhaps, but... hmmm... --- phelliax the celebrant -- wiml@blake.acs.washington.edu (206)526-5885 Seattle, Washington ------------------------------ Date: 21 Dec 89 02:34:34 GMT From: saacc@cunyvm.cuny.edu (Shermane Austin) Subject: add to subscription list Please add the following to the subscription list for the space digest: saacc%cunyvm.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu ------------------------------ Date: 29 Dec 89 02:20:37 GMT From: cs.utexas.edu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!helios.physics.utoronto.ca!ists!yunexus!utzoo!henry@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Henry Spencer) Subject: Re: Techno-welfare In article <11291@thorin.cs.unc.edu> leech@cezanne.cs.unc.edu (Jonathan Leech) writes: > How do you explain the Japanese dominance in 4MB DRAMs with this >theory? MITI and JASDF aren't subsidizing the >$1G investment Toshiba >and other companies are making in this area. The Japanese government is, however, providing more subtle support, by maintaining a legal climate that encourages innovation and long-term investment. As opposed to the US climate that almost demands giving priority to short-term profits. (In some cases it *does* demand it: pension funds and the like are a major source of investment, with truly massive amounts of money involved, and their managers are *legally required* to maximize short-term return on investment and ignore all other considerations, on pain of criminal charges and jail.) -- 1972: Saturn V #15 flight-ready| Henry Spencer at U of Toronto Zoology 1989: birds nesting in engines | uunet!attcan!utzoo!henry henry@zoo.toronto.edu ------------------------------ Date: 28 Dec 89 21:45:39 GMT From: hp-ses!hpcuhb!hpcilzb!fish@hplabs.hp.com (John Fisher) Subject: Re: The time thread that won't die. >>There will be >>NO<< PARTY for software engineers on Jan 1 2000, because at >>that point all of the old bad programmers will have to figure out how to fix >>all the programs with 89 instead of 1989 as dates in data. For them >>at least the old milennia will end, and a new one ( a kinder gentler >>more user-friendly one ) will begin. **Slight drift on** Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm not completely sure of this), but doesn't the new millennium begin on January 1, 2001? Since there was no year zero, the year 100 was the last year of the first century. Therefore, January 1, 101 was the first day of the second century. (Isn't this why the story was titled "2001"?) john(da fish)fisher ------------------------------ Date: 29 Dec 89 20:33:23 GMT From: trident.arc.nasa.gov!yee@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Peter E. Yee) Subject: Cray Research Inc. awarded contract for two advanced supercomputers (Forwarded) Mary Sandy Headquarters, Washington, D.C. December 29, 1989 Randee Exler Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md. RELEASE: C89-p CRAY RESEARCH INC. AWARDED CONTRACT FOR TWO ADVANCED SUPERCOMPUTERS NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md., has awarded Cray Research, Inc., Calverton, Md., a contract valued at nearly $58 million to provide advanced supercomputing systems for Goddard's Space and Earth Sciences Computing Center and Lewis Research Center, Cleveland, Ohio. The supercomputers will support the scientific computing needs of Goddard, Lewis, other NASA field centers and NASA-sponsored university research programs. These systems will initially provide a significant increase in processing capabilities at both Lewis and Goddard, and the contract contains options for future upgrades. The initial contract award is valued at $57,899,492. Total contract value including all options is estimated at $170,000,000. The award includes a basic year plus six 1-year options. ------------------------------ Date: 29 Dec 89 15:42:15 GMT From: hpfcso!hpcndaw!jar@hplabs.hp.com (Jon Rodin) Subject: antigravity I don't know if this appropriately goes in sci.space, but antigravity seems to fit here as well as anywhere. A recent article in my local paper (Denver Post - by lined the NY Times) is headlined "Report defies laws of gravity". According to the article: Japanese scientists have reported that small gyroscopes lose weight when spun under certain conditions, apparently in defiance of gravity. The research was reported in the December 18 issue of _Physical Review Letters_. Has anyone seen the original report? Any comments? ------------------------------ Date: 1 Jan 90 12:01:47 GMT From: amelia!eugene@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Eugene Miya) Subject: Information sources for frequent space questions (1 of n) Rec.travel: one of the best news groups, let's keep it that way. Considerations to minimize needless repetitive postings: If you want travel information, consider traditional sources such as the auto club and travel agents, because they can give info the net can't, like maps. SEEK them BEFORE posting. These sources are usually free and quite detailed. Try the Yellow Pages (finger walking). Phone are much faster. If you are uncertain about posting, ask someone on the net by mail before posting, this will minimize flames and not burn out oldsters. Many network mentors will gladly help by email. Minimize cross-posting. Also consider posting to more specialized groups than travel. By all means, if you have really bizzare kinds of questions, like the time of the next solar eclipse at the South Pole, do post. Everyone would enjoy it. The net is best used for discussions, but queries are best answered by mail. Many space activies center around large Government or International Bureaucracies. In this country that means NASA. If you have basic information requests: (e.g., general PR info, research grants, data, limited tours, and ESPECIALLY SUMMER EMPLOYMENT (typically resumes should be ready by Jan. 1), etc.), consider contacting the nearest NASA Center to answer your questions. EMail typically will not get you any where, computers are used by investigators, not PR people. The typical volume of mail per Center is a multiple of 10,000 letters a day. Seek the Public Information Office at one of the below, this is their job: NASA Headquarters (NASA HQ) Washington DC 20546 NASA Ames Research Center (ARC) Moffett Field, CA 94035 [Mountain View, CA, near San Francisco Bay, you know Silicon Valley 8-) ] Ames Research Center Dryden Flight Research Facility [DFRF] P. O. Box 273 Edwards, CA 93523 NASA Goddard Space Flight Center (GSFC) Greenbelt, MD 20771 [Outside of Washington DC] NASA Lewis Research Center (LeRC) 21000 Brookpark Rd. Cleveland, OH 44135 NASA Johnson Manned Space Center (JSC) Houston, TX 77058 NASA Kennedy Space Flight Center (KSC) Titusville, FL 32899 NASA Marshall Space Flight Center (MSC) Huntsville, AL35812 NASA Langley Research Center (LaRC) Hampton, VA 23665 [Near Newport News, VA] Not a NASA Center, but close enough: Jet Propulsion Laboratory [JPL/CIT] California Institute of Technology 4800 Oak Grove Dr. Pasadena, CA 91109 There are other small facilities, but the above major Centers are set up to handle public information requests. They can send you tons of information. Specific requests for software must go thru COSMIC at the Univ. of Georgia, NASA's contracted software redistribution service. You can reach them at cosmic@uga.bitnet. If this gives you problems, tell me. NOTE: Foreign nationals requesting information must go through their Embassies in Washington DC. These are facilities of the US Government and are regarded with some degree of economic sensitivity. Centers cannot directly return information without high Center approval. Allow at least 1 month for clearance. This includes COSMIC. EUROPEAN SPACE AGENCY (O) 202/488-4158 955 L'Enfant Plaza S.W., Washington, D.C. 20024 Arianespace Headquarters Boulevard de l'Europe B.P. 177 91006 Evry Cedex France ARIANESPACE, INC. (O) 202/728-9075 1747 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, Suite 875, Washington, DC 20006 SPOT IMAGE CORPORATION (FAX) 703/648-1813 (O) 703/620-2200 1857 Preston White Drive, Reston, VA 22091 National Space Development Agency (NASDA), 4-1 Hamamatsu-Cho, 2 Chome Minato-Ku, Tokyo 105, Japan SOYUZKARTA 45 Vologradsij Pr., Moscow 109125, USSR SPACE COMMERCE CORPORATION (U.S. agent for Soviet launch services) 504 Pluto Drive, Colorado Springs, CO 80906 (O) 719/578-5490 69th flr, Texas Commerce Tower, Houston, TX 77002 (O) 713/227-9000 ------------------------------ Date: 19 Dec 89 10:23:33 GMT From: usc!orion.oac.uci.edu!dkrause@apple.com (Doug Krause) Subject: Re: Is this true? In article <1640@xn.LL.MIT.EDU> rp@XN.LL.MIT.EDU (Richard Pavelle) writes: #" Mars is essentially in the same orbit. Mars is somewhat the same #distance from the sun, which is very important. We have seen pictures #where there are canals, we believe, and water. If there is water, #there is oxygen. If oxygen, that means we can breathe". -- Let's send Dan to Mars. He apparently needs all the oxygen he can get. Douglas Krause One yuppie can ruin your whole day. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- University of California, Irvine Internet: dkrause@orion.oac.uci.edu Welcome to Irvine, Yuppieland USA BITNET: DJKrause@ucivmsa ------------------------------ Date: 19 Dec 89 15:51:56 GMT From: mcsun!ukc!stc!praxis!hilbert!macey@uunet.uu.net (Ian Macey) Subject: Re: Big Bang - no more In article <963@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> HOWGREJ@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu writes: > I really don't know how you could *disprove* the BB; it's >been pretty well accepted since the '60s. There's a lot of data that it >explains real well that you'd have to come up with a better explanation >for... 3 degree background, expansion, primordial nucleosynthesis, etc. >The BB theory, combined with Guth's inflation, does a fine job at the >moment... seems pretty unlikely to disprove it that abruptly. Any more >(concrete) info on this? I think you'll find the Big Bang theory has been looking pretty shakey for a number of years now. I for one would put it down as a nice little theory which seemed to work with what we knew at the time, but which almost certainly isn't the right answer. One of the people who has done a lot towards coming up with an alternative theory of the existence/creation of the universe is Stephen Hawking of Oxford University. His work involves (if I remember correctly) superstring theory and steady state universes. For more information try his book 'A Brief History Of Time' which is a very good read and gives a state of the art explanation for the universe's existence. |\\\X\\|\ | Ian Macey Bath, England. (macey@praxis.co.uk) |\\X\\\|\\ | ---------------------------------------------------------------- |\X\\\\|\\\| " the solution to a problem changes the problem " ------------------------------ End of SPACE Digest V10 #376 *******************