Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 32766 Received: from beak.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for +dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr11/tm2b/space/space.dl@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr11/tm2b/space/space.dl) (->ota+space.digests) ID ; Tue, 9 Jan 90 13:43:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from beak.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sat, 6 Jan 90 01:34:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Reply-To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU From: space-request+@Andrew.CMU.EDU To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU Date: Sat, 6 Jan 90 01:33:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: SPACE Digest V10 #379 SPACE Digest Volume 10 : Issue 379 Today's Topics: Re: Scientific value of Apollo Primary Strategic Reform Target: JSC Progress M-2 docks with Mir space station 1999 and all that .... Payload Status for 12/22/89 (Forwarded) MUSES-A Launch Set Re: Planetary position software: summary of replies. NASA Headline News for 12/22/89 (Forwarded) Re: Air to orbit launch in 1985? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 20 Dec 89 21:04:16 GMT From: mailrus!shadooby!umich!dip.eecs.umich.edu!kamidon@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Keith Amidon) Subject: Re: Scientific value of Apollo I have avoided the manned vs unmanned debate now for a long time, but I've decided to get my two cents in since it looks like this thread is never EVER going to die. In my opinion neither one is better than the other because they both have their good and bad points. There are situations in which manned is better and situations in which unmanned is better. If the mission matches the approach used everything is great. The problem arises when the wrong approach is used. Examples of where I feel each approach is appropriate follow: Unmanned: Survey/Photographic Mission Simple sampling missions (this could include returns) Manned: Complex sampling missions With advanced enough robotics and AI, everything could be done with unmanned missions. However, I feel that there is a fundamental problem with this. Scientific knowledge gained through space exploration is extremely important. However, I believe that we need to develop a permanent manned presence in space. The earth is simply too small a basket to keep all our fragile eggs in. Therefore, we need missions with a manned component to develop these capabilities. Besides, the life-science researchers I'm sure would like to have data on how humans and other organisms live/function in space, and this data could be just as important to us as the composition of Mars rock etc. Flame me if you want, but this is my position on the matter. Keith Amidon -- kamidon@caen.engin.umich.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 89 15:26:31 PST From: mordor!lll-tis!ames!scubed!pnet01.cts.com!jim@angband.s1.gov (Jim Bowery) To: crash!space@angband.s1.gov Subject: Primary Strategic Reform Target: JSC Johnson Space Center has defined itself as the primary strategic target in any attempt to reform NASA. We should all (PARTICULARLY THOSE OF US AT THE GRASSROOTS) seek ways in which we can dismantle JSC's power to engage in monumental waste and corruption, rather than propping up its ponderous bureaucratic weight long enough for it to take the "next logical step" in establishing total suppression of progress in space. In NASA funding priorities, the pecking order goes: 1) Johnson Space Center 2) Other Southern Centers 3) The contractors for the above two 4) Other Centers 5) The contractors for other Centers 6) Outside investigators The difference between this and real government funded research organizations is most apparent if one looks at the way NSF worked so successfully over the last 20 years: 1) Outside investigators 2) Administration of the NSF peer-review process >From its inception, JSC has embodied the triumph of politics over progress. JSC culture, showing itself capable of suppressing genuine research in favor of centralizing cashflows in the hands of a very few, has "taught" others in the pecking order that one can either spend all of one's time begging for a few dollars from the hands of those who have "learned to play the game", being rewarded with the ability to do the world some good if one succeeds, or one can "learn to play the game" better than others, being rewarded directly with personal power and prestige if one succeeds. This dramatically favors those who are leaders in demonstrating they are short-sighted, selfish and lack character or technical competence. They turned their backs on progress and began to "learn the game" earlier and are therefore the very people who are least able, ethically and technically, to make appropriate judgements as to how to structure the cashflows, and most likely to be as corrupt as they can get away with inside the labyrinths of the government and aerospace industry. Therefore, JSC as the political leader in the suppression of scientific and technical progress in the United States is the primary target for energies aimed to recovering United States preeminence in space, science and technology. JSC's political power is based on the perception by elected officials that the grassroots opinion of JSC's manned program ranges from mild annoyance at the high cost to unbridled enthusiasm for the heroic flights of astronauts and images of a new frontier in space. Also, there is the belief that the grassroots sees JSC, as it exists today, as the primary force behind the success of the Apollo program -- one of the last moments of great national pride. Therefore, it is the GRASSROOTS who have power over the reform of JSC and, indirectly, the pathological structure of our space program and research institutions. That's right -- people like YOU AND ME! In fact, our power to REFORM the space program is far greater than is our power to increase its budget. Think about it -- all Congressman EXPECT to hear from the grassroots about the space program is how wonderful it is and how we should give NASA as much money as it wants for whatever it wants. The only CRITICS of the space program they hear from are those who have a vested interest in grabbing NASA's funding or playing political turf wars. WE CAN REALLY GET THEIR ATTENTION BY GOING IN AS GRASSROOTS SPACE ENTHUSIASTS (including manned space) FOR REFORM OF THE SPACE PROGRAM. If WE THE PEONS simply make it clear that we are very unhappy with JSC spoon-feeding us morsels of Apollo's rotting carrion, we can demand that JSC be eliminated as the top of the destructive pecking order and insist that measures be taken which will discourage those with weak character from "taking the bait" when presented with similar opportunities in the future. That way, whether or not there is a shift of government funds from military to space, we can achieve the kind of progress NASA always promises and will never deliver. The simplest, most direct route to do this is to auction off (privatize) the STS (Shuttle system) using the revenue to pay for the costs of voluntary early retirement around JSC, divide up JSC's (and STS's) budget among the other NASA centers and convert the remaining facilities around JSC into an Apollo Museum containing relics of the Apollo era (perhaps a Houston branch of the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum, with the moon-rocks in its care and keeping). If even a SMALL group AT THE GRASSROOTS (no one with a direct interest in funding for space activities) started getting organized behind something like this, some Congressmen are willing to fight for appropriate legislation. I know which direction I'd rather go. Send me private E-Mail if you want to be a "peon" who makes a real difference. --- Typical RESEARCH grant: $ Typical DEVELOPMENT contract: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Dec 89 12:19:38 EST From: Glenn Chapman To: biro%hydra.enet.dec.com@decwrl.dec.com, klaes%wrksys.dec@decwrl.dec.com, space-editors-new@andrew.cmu.edu, yaron@astro.as.utexas.edu Subject: Progress M-2 docks with Mir space station The Soviet Union's Progress M-2 cargo craft successfully docked with the Mir orbital complex today (Dec. 22) according to Radio Moscow. The Progress, which was launched on Dec. 20th at 6:31 am Moscow Time (10:31 pm EST), carries about 2.5 Tonnes of food/water/fuel and equipment to the station. It is also the first craft to dock with Mir in the new mode with the Kvant 2 module positioned to the side of the station. This should make the combined mass of the station complex at about 70.5 Tonnes. One of the main events of this Progress launch is the addition of a protein crystal growth experiment which is paid for Payload Systems, a Cambridge, MA based space materials processing company. These experiments take several weeks of zero G growth to crystallize samples for materials processing (hence the need for Mir space station processing). The cosmonauts will bring the samples back with them on Feb. 19th when they return from Mir. Meanwhile cosmonauts Alexander Viktorenko and Alexander Serebrov have finished successfully activating the Kvant 2 module. The last task was to degrease the VIKA (called electron in the west) system which generates oxygen by electrolysis of water. This should enhance their life support system and reduce some of the supply needs. TV pictures from within the module show it to be spacious but with a large number of boxes floating around. These must contain equipment for future experiments. Photos out the port hole showed the solar panels of Kvant 2. The cosmonauts have also started a new series of X-ray telescope observations upon supernova remnants from the Kvant 1 astrophysical module. Viktorenko and Serebrov have now been up there for 108 days. By the way the most experienced US astronaut is currently in 25th place on the list of time spent in zero G. (TASS Dec.19,20, Radio Moscow and Vremya - Moscow TV news of several days). So the first real commercial activity on board Mir has begun. In a few months we shall see if Payload Systems is getting the results that make it worth while to seek a steady commercial contract with the Russians. Glenn Chapman MIT Lincoln Lab ------------------------------ Date: 22 Dec 89 17:43:46 GMT From: mcsun!ukc!reading!minster!murray@uunet.uu.net Subject: 1999 and all that .... A decade is a period of ten years, a millenia one of a thousand. The end of a decade means that ten years have elapsed, so any time at all is the end of the decade. Likewise a millenia. So please stop arguing about when decades finish and start - some people just think they started at a different time. And if you really must avoid the problems do what the BBC programs are doing: say that you are celebrating the end of the 80's. Kevin ------------------------------ Date: 26 Dec 89 18:26:01 GMT From: trident.arc.nasa.gov!yee@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Peter E. Yee) Subject: Payload Status for 12/22/89 (Forwarded) Daily Status/KSC Payload Management and Operations 12-22-89 - STS-31R HST (at VPF) - Auxiliary support fixture disassembly is complete. No other HST activity planned until January 2nd. Facility HVAC and systems to be monitored through the holidays. - STS-32R SYNCOM (at Pad A) - Battery conditioning will continue through 23 December and will pick back up again on 29 December. - STS-35 ASTRO-1/BBXRT (at O&C) - MUE installation at the aft flight deck continues. Software validation in work. BBXRT MLI installation also continuing. UIT early access demo test worked yesterday and will continue today. HUT and AST vacuum pump reconnects/pump down, HUT GSE checkout, BBXRT liquid argon servicing preps and mechanical ASTRO-1 closeout are all complete. The problem on experiment heater mat has been isolated to the IPS cable and is being repaired. - STS-40 SLS-1 (at O&C) - Rack 3 modification in work. Completed rack 7 upper mods. Pyrell foam replacement continues on the module. - STS-42 IML (at O&C) - No activity yesterday. Will pick back up today with modification to rack 9. ------------------------------ Date: 27 Dec 89 17:11:37 GMT From: trident.arc.nasa.gov!yee@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Peter E. Yee) Subject: MUSES-A Launch Set Yoshiro Yamada of the Yokohama Science Center, Yokohoma, Japan informs me that the Japanese have set 20:50 JST (=UT+9h) January 23, 1990 as the launch time for MUSES-A. (source: ISAS NEWS, No. 105, December issue 1989) ------------------------------ Date: 27 Dec 89 18:02:25 GMT From: mcsun!unido!tub!fauern!tumuc!guug!pcsbst!horst@uunet.uu.net (horst) Subject: Re: Planetary position software: summary of replies. Some remarks on ephem: The Man pages do not mention that for "watch" mode (solar) it is convenient to switch off the display of the outer planets if you are interested in the inner ones. You can only switch off the display before you select watch mode. (Only to avoid the disappointment that I felt.) Horst horst@pcs.com ------------------------------ Date: 26 Dec 89 18:35:37 GMT From: trident.arc.nasa.gov!yee@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Peter E. Yee) Subject: NASA Headline News for 12/22/89 (Forwarded) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, December 22, 1989 Audio: 202/755/1788 ----------------------------------------------------------------- This is NASA Headline News for Friday, December 22.... Two major NASA offices will be merged to insure tight coordination in the creation of plans for human exploration of the solar system and the development of new technologies needed to accomplish the goal. The Office of Aeronautics and Space Technology and the Office of Exploration will operate as a single entity under the direction of Associate Administrator Arnold Aldrich. Formal consolidation of the offices will come after the new year. The Washington Post reports that scientists have scaled back predictions of a significant sea level rise in the next 100 years because of global warming. The latest prediction is based on a noticeable accumulation of snow and ice in Greenland and Antarctica. Data from Greenland was gathered by scientists at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center using satellites. A University of Wisconsin polar research center study indicated similar snow and ice accumulation in Antarctica. Four more universities and consortia have been designated space grant colleges in the national space grant college and fellowship program. The addition of the University of Hawaii at Manoa, Iowa Space Grant College Consortium, New Mexico Space Grant Consortium and Tennessee Valley Aerospace Consortium bring the total to 21. Sears Roebuck has pulled a space toy off their shelves that simulates a space rocket countdown that goes awry. The New York Times says the rocket and launch pad destruction toy is part of a Kenner products "Building Blaster" series whose slogan is, "build 'em up, then blow'em up". An Idaho family wrote to both Sears and President Bush complaining about it. Kenner says they had no intention of recalling the Challenger loss. Aerospace Daily reports that the Department of Defense may call for a third captive flight of Orbital Science Corporation's Pegaus air launched booster. The story says there were "significant" anomalies during the December 15 flight test over the Pacific Ocean. * * * ----------------------------------------------------------------- Here's the broadcast schedule for public affairs events on NASA Select TV. All times are Eastern. There are no scheduled events on NASA Select television during the holiday week. NASA Update will be transmitted at 11:30 A.M. on Thursday, January 4. ----------------------------------------------------------------- These reports are filed daily, Monday through Friday at 12 noon, Eastern time. There will be no Headline News on Monday, December 25. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Have a happy holiday season!!! ------------------------------ Date: 29 Dec 89 12:50:21 GMT From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!caesar.cs.montana.edu!milton!dancey@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mikel Stromberg) Subject: Re: Air to orbit launch in 1985? If you want to read a fictionalized account of this weapon, it is mentioned in Tom Clancy's 'Red Storm Rising'. A young, woman, Airforce pilot uses the system to shoot down five Sov sats, thus becoming America's first Female Ace. I think there was another ASAT test in '86, invloving a truly orbital weapon. The Air Force shot a fake ICBM out over the pacific, and it was intercepted in orbit by a payload from a second rocket. The payload was a large mesh 'spiderweb' which unfurled in orbit. The surface area was quite large, and a complete destruction of the target ICBM 'bus' was achieved.... Ryan, The Tall Guy ------------------------------ End of SPACE Digest V10 #379 *******************