Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 7997;andrew.cmu.edu;Ted Anderson Received: from beak.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for +dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr11/tm2b/space/space.dl@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr11/tm2b/space/space.dl) (->ota+space.digests) ID ; Tue, 10 Apr 90 01:46:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU From: space-request+@Andrew.CMU.EDU To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU Date: Tue, 10 Apr 90 01:46:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: SPACE Digest V11 #240 SPACE Digest Volume 11 : Issue 240 Today's Topics: Re: Hubble Window Payload Status for 04/06/90 (Forwarded) Re: Skylab Reminders for Old Farts Payload Status for 04/04/90 (Forwarded) Pegasus Status for 04/05/90 (Forwarded) Recommendations on Telescope Purchase. Re: Ejection seats NASA Select TV Re: Discovery's Spin in 2010 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 9 Apr 90 13:25:48 GMT From: pyuxp!pyuxe!nvuxr!deej@bellcore.com (David Lewis) Subject: Re: Hubble Window In article <20040216371665@wishep.physics.wisc.edu>, GOTT@WISHEP.PHYSICS.WISC.EDU writes: > I read somewhere that the launch of the HST had been moved UP two days? > Whyfor? I read in the NYT (take it as you will) that several contingincies built into the schedule weren't needed. In other words, things that were expected to go wrong didn't :-). (Although there's still plenty of time for *other* things to go wrong...) -- David G Lewis ...!bellcore!nvuxr!deej (@ Bellcore Navesink Research & Engineering Center) "If this is paradise, I wish I had a lawnmower." ------------------------------ Date: 9 Apr 90 22:07:09 GMT From: trident.arc.nasa.gov!yee@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Peter E. Yee) Subject: Payload Status for 04/06/90 (Forwarded) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 90 12:29:00 PDT From: ames!nasamail.nasa.gov!payload.projects Daily Status/KSC Payload Management and Operations 04-06-90. - STS-31R HST (at pad-B) - HST battery charging and closeout activities are continuing today. - STS-35 ASTRO-1 (at OPF) - ASTRO closeout activities and experiment servicing are continuing today. - STS-40 SLS-1 (at 0&C) - Rack and floor installation into the module is continuing today. - STS-42 IML-1 (at O&C) - Staging activities on the floor and racks 3, 4, 7, 8, and 9 were worked on Thursday. Floor staging along with racks 3, 7, 8, and 9 staging operations are scheduled for today. - STS-45 (Atlas-1)- Joint kit installation on frame 4 was completed on Thursday. Pallet to pallet mating will start today. - STS-55 SL-D2 (at O&C) - Rack 12 staging activities will continue today. - HST M&R (at O&C) - Cable continuity and isolation checks were worked Thursday. ------------------------------ Date: 9 Apr 90 23:05:00 GMT From: unmvax!nmtsun!nraoaoc@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Daniel Briggs) Subject: Re: Skylab In article J_DELANO@UNHH.BITNET writes: > > And, on a related note, are the Soviets simply going to de-orbit >Salyut 7 like they do all the progress modules? As long as we seem to be asking about definitions, here's another one. What exactly does de-orbit mean in this context? I am guessing that the Soviets use a de-orbit burn to drop the module where they want it, rather than bombing the world haphazardly. Is there a way to do this more gently? I can't think of any way they could get the modules down softly. What *do* they do? ----- This is a shared guest account, please send replies to dbriggs@nrao.edu (Internet) Dan Briggs / NRAO / P.O. Box O / Socorro, NM / 87801 (U.S. Snail) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 90 04:00:23 -0700 From: Eugene N. Miya Subject: Reminders for Old Farts Hints for old users (subtle reminders) You'll know these. Minimize cross references, [Do you REALLY NEED to?] Edit "Subject:" lines especially if you are taking a tangent. Send mail instead, avoid posting follow ups. [1 mail message worth 100 posts.] Read all available articles before posting a follow-up. [Check all references.] Cut down attributed articles. Summarize! Put a return address in the body (signature) of your message (mail or article), state institution, etc. don't assume mail works. Use absolute dates. Post in a timely way. Don't post what everyone will get on TV anyway. Some editors and window systems do character count line wrapping: please keep lines under 80 characters for those using ASCII terms (use ). ------------------------------ Date: 9 Apr 90 21:30:34 GMT From: trident.arc.nasa.gov!yee@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Peter E. Yee) Subject: Payload Status for 04/04/90 (Forwarded) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 90 12:21:29 PDT From: ames!nasamail.nasa.gov!payload.projects Daily Status/KSC Payload Management and Operations 04-04-90. - STS-31R HST (at pad-B) - HST battery charging was active Tuesday and will continue into Thursday. Confidence testing was reactivated second shift Tuesday and is expected to be completed on third shift Thursday. - STS-35 ASTRO-1 (at OPF) - Power on closeouts activities were completed on second shift Tuesday. Payload ordnance connections were completed on third shift today. Power off closeout activities will continue today. - STS-40 SLS-1 (at 0&C) - Preps for rack and floor installation into the module were continued Tuesday. The actual roll in of the floor is scheduled for today. - STS-42 IML-1 (at O&C) - Racks 3, 5, 9, 10, 11 and 12 staging along with module staging were performed Tuesday. Staging activities on the floor and racks 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 and 12 are scheduled for today. - STS-45 (Atlas-1)- Pallet joint kit installations on frames 1 and 4 along with flight trunnion installation were worked Tuesday and will continue today. - STS-55 SL-D2 (at O&C) - Rack 12 staging activities will continue today. - HST M&R (at O&C) - Cable continuity and isolation will continue today. ------------------------------ Date: 9 Apr 90 22:24:40 GMT From: trident.arc.nasa.gov!yee@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Peter E. Yee) Subject: Pegasus Status for 04/05/90 (Forwarded) [Old news by now. -PEY] Pegasus Mission Status The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency Pegasus air- launched booster successfully completed its test flight today and launched its first payload into space at 12:19 p.m PDT. The NASA B-52 carrier aircraft, with Pegasus mounted under its right wing, took off from the Dryden Flight Research Facility, Edwards, Calif. at 11:03 PDT. The Pegasus separated from the B-52 at 12:10 p.m. PDT, at an altitude of approximately 43,000 feet. Five seconds later, the Pegasus' first-stage motor ignited. Following ignition of the second and third stages, the Pegasus payload reached a nominal altitude of 320 nautical miles. The three-function payload, known as PEGSAT, behaved as expected. The small Navy experimental communications relay satellite was deployed at 12:20 p.m. PDT. The instrumentation incorporated into the PEGSAT and the Pegasus vehicle successfully transmitted valuable data during the launch sequence, which will be studied over the coming months. The remaining task to be performed by PEGSAT is the release of the NASA barium experiment, which is expected to occur during the last two weeks in April. Mary Sandy, DFRF Newsroom 4/5/90; 1:25 p.m. PDT ------------------------------ Date: 9 Apr 90 11:52:05 GMT From: usna!nardi@uunet.uu.net (LT Peter A. Nardi) Subject: Recommendations on Telescope Purchase. Greetings. This news group seems to be the right place to ask this question. I'm interested in purchasing an 8" SCT telescope. The two models I'm considering are from Meade (the 2080) and Celestron (the classic - 8). Has anyone had any experience with these scopes, good or bad? There's not much difference in price, so recommendations on quality of optics, drives, etc would be helpful. On a related subject, are there any feelings out there on particular mail order companies? Some friends of mine said they had good experiences with a company called "Orion Telescopes" in California. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated. You can mail responses directly to me, and I'll summarize for the net if there's sufficient interest. Thanks in advance......... -==- nardi@cad.usna.mil ------------------------------ Date: 3 Apr 90 15:13:28 GMT From: skipper!shafer@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer (OFV)) Subject: Re: Ejection seats In article <384@mtndew.UUCP> friedl@mtndew.UUCP (Steve Friedl) writes: >Al Bowers writes: >> Your 25g estimate is in the ballpark. Older seats generated up to 40g >> and had consequent higher injury rates. >So what causes these injuries? Hitting the ground? Hitting the >canopy? Getting arms caught on something? Sheer acceleration? >Running into another aircraft? :-( The injuries resulting from the acceleration of the seat are compression injuries to the spine and the consequent paralysis. Other injuries include fracture or amputation of the extremities, flail injuries, and landing impact injuries. Frostbite, hypoxia, landing in the burning wreckage, soft tissue injuries (whiplash), strangling in the parachute risers. There was also a case of exsanguination following throat injuries caused by the oxygen mask (he bled to death on his way down). I read the other day about a guy who broke both arms and dislocated both shoulders. He landed in the water, couldn't release his chute, and was dragged down and drowned. They told me a few more stories at F-4 one-timer egress training and and fortunately I didn't get to find out any of these things during my flight. I also heard about them during the 3-day physiological training (chamber ride, etc). >I find it easy to believe that ejecting is not A Fun Thing, but >where specifically is the danger? Dangers. ^ The only reason for ejecting is that staying is worse. However, I know people who've ejected with no lasting problems at all. It's not always dreadful and it's almost always better than staying in a stricken aircraft. -- Mary Shafer shafer@skipper.dfrf.nasa.gov or ames!skipper.dfrf.nasa.gov!shafer NASA Ames Dryden Flight Research Facility, Edwards, CA Of course I don't speak for NASA ------------------------------ Date: 9 Apr 90 21:03:42 GMT From: usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!dsinc!bdgltd!ela@ucsd.edu (Ed Ackerman Programmer) Subject: NASA Select TV My local cable company has started carrying NASA Select TV, I was wondering just what it is and how often it is on. E-mail is fine, but I read the group. Thanx -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ed Ackerman | It is impossible to make anything bdgltd!ela@dsi.com or ...!dsinc!bdgltd!ela| foolproof beacause fools are #include | SO ingenious! ------------------------------ Date: 9 Apr 90 22:28:18 GMT From: usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!pequod.cso.uiuc.edu!ahiggins@ucsd.edu (Andrew Higgins) Subject: Re: Discovery's Spin in 2010 In article <117.261F533A@ofa123.FIDONET.ORG> Mark.Perew@ofa123.FIDONET.ORG (Mark Perew) writes: >I have enjoyed all of this discussion about spin and torque, etc. > >However, this discussion of where the carousel was located seems >to be missing one major element, to wit: reality. _2001_ was *ONLY* >a movie. Yes, Clarke is an excellent author and he usually gets >his facts straight, but he is allowed some literay license. Very true. A number of people in this group have criticized the film because the centrifuge located on Discovery was too small to overcome the adverse effects of the Coriolis force. The makers of 2001, however, were very aware of the issues involved. Frederick I. Ordway, who was the film's scientific consultant and technical advisor, wrote: "We had the option of putting the Centrifuge on for, say, one to two hours a day to produce up to 1.5 g, or permanently have it rotate to provide about 0.2 to 0.3 g. We chose the latter. There was, of course, the problem of Coriolis forces, which on small diameter wheels would cause dizziness to astronauts walking along the rim. Calculations showed that the centrifuge should be at least 300 ft in diameter to reduce to acceptable levels the inconveniences caused by the Coriolis forces, but such a diameter was beyond the capabilities of M-G-M British Studios--and our budget. So we never really mentioned the diameter of the wheel with which we had to work [38 ft]; in fact, there was no purpose to reveal measurements at any time. Visual appearances were what counted." Note that the Discovery centrifuge provided 0.2 g, not 1 g. Elsewhere in the same article, Ordway says that the large space station in the beginning of the film also provided only 0.2 g. The above excerpt was taken from "2001: A Space Odyssey" by Frederick I. Ordway in the March 1970 issue of _Spaceflight_, Vol. 12, No. 3, pp. 110-117, a publication of the British Interplanetary Society. It is an excellent, detailed article covering all the technology used in the film, including line diagrams that could have settled this "how is the centrifuge is oriented" debate ages ago. Suffice it to say for now that the axis about which the centrifuge spins coincides with the main axis or "spine" of Discovery. -- Andrew J. 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