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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 90 02:52:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: SPACE Digest V11 #312

SPACE Digest                                     Volume 11 : Issue 312

Today's Topics:
			  Re: Dyson spheres?
	     Re: Apollo 13, STS-1, Vostok 1 anniversaries
      Re: Discovery's Spin in 2010 (Was Re: Artificial gravity)
Re: Giant crawler transporter to pass 1000 miles on STS-35 rollout (Forwarded)
	  Re: Listening to the Star (was RE: Drake Equation)
		      Shuttle chronology needed!
		      Re: SPACE Digest V11 #256
		      Re: SPACE Digest V11 #256
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Date: 24 Apr 90 06:09:03 GMT
From: uokmax!spcoltri@apple.com  (Steven P Coltrin)
Subject: Re: Dyson spheres?

In article <101686@convex.convex.com> ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:
>Larry Niven wrote a very good article on Dyson spheres, Ringworlds, 
>Alderson disks, etc. that appeared in Analog.  The article is still
>available in one of Niven's short story collections.  (Sorry, I forget
>which one.)

The book is _All the Myriad Ways._  The article, 'Bigger Than Worlds,' is,
IMAO, a must-read on the subject.

   --SPC

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Date: 24 Apr 90 04:16:00 GMT
From: cs.utexas.edu!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!snorkelwacker!spdcc!xylogics!transfer!lectroid!jjmhome!cpoint!frog!john@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu  (John Woods)
Subject: Re: Apollo 13, STS-1, Vostok 1 anniversaries

In article <682@idacrd.UUCP>, mac@idacrd.UUCP (Robert McGwier) writes:
> > Grissom was not just a Gemini astronaut, but one of the original seven
		    ^^^^
> What?  I thought Grissom flew in the first Gemini?  What gives?

Note the emphasized word.

An author of a book I have at home notes, with some irony, that it was
Grissom's problem with the hatch blowing in his Mercury mission that led
to the Apollo hatch being secured with 6 big bolts from the outside.  This
was another feature of the capsule which got redesigned after the fire.
-- 
John Woods, Charles River Data Systems, Framingham MA, (508) 626-1101
...!decvax!frog!john, john@frog.UUCP, ...!mit-eddie!jfw, jfw@eddie.mit.edu

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Date: 24 Apr 90 03:56:00 GMT
From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!snorkelwacker!spdcc!xylogics!transfer!lectroid!jjmhome!cpoint!frog!john@ucsd.edu  (John Woods)
Subject: Re: Discovery's Spin in 2010 (Was Re: Artificial gravity)

In article <2483@syma.sussex.ac.uk>, nickw@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Nick Watkins) writes:
> >Any other such movies with silent space?  Even Alien, with "in space
> >no one can hear you scream", you could hear the engines from "outside".
> Silent Running ? 

Dark Star.  We do get treated to noise while the hyperspace drive is on,
but that might be chalked up to what the astronauts hear.  When Bomb 21
decides to "let there be light", however, it is silent.
-- 
John Woods, Charles River Data Systems, Framingham MA, (508) 626-1101
...!decvax!frog!john, john@frog.UUCP, ...!mit-eddie!jfw, jfw@eddie.mit.edu

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Date: 24 Apr 90 04:32:00 GMT
From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!snorkelwacker!spdcc!xylogics!transfer!lectroid!jjmhome!cpoint!frog!john@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu  (John Woods)
Subject: Re: Giant crawler transporter to pass 1000 miles on STS-35 rollout (Forwarded)

In article <47818@ames.arc.nasa.gov>, yee@trident.arc.nasa.gov (Peter E. Yee) writes:
>   GIANT CRAWLER TRANSPORTER TO PASS 1000 MILES ON STS-35 ROLLOUT

Another 2000 miles and it'll be time to change the oil.	;-)
-- 
John Woods, Charles River Data Systems, Framingham MA, (508) 626-1101
...!decvax!frog!john, john@frog.UUCP, ...!mit-eddie!jfw, jfw@eddie.mit.edu

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Date: 24 Apr 90 03:48:00 GMT
From: mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!know!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!snorkelwacker!spdcc!xylogics!transfer!lectroid!jjmhome!cpoint!frog!john@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu  (John Woods)
Subject: Re: Listening to the Star (was RE: Drake Equation)

In article <1990Apr18.183911.25045@utzoo.uucp>, henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) writes:
> especially to mobile targets, is not so easy.  It's hard to imagine that
> even a very advanced race would completely abandon the radio spectrum.

It is also important to note that much of our radio radiation is not
even "intentional"; place an AM radio receiver on top of your computer
for one example (for extra credit, write a program which plays Bach's
Tocatta and Fugue in D minor... ;-).
-- 
John Woods, Charles River Data Systems, Framingham MA, (508) 626-1101
...!decvax!frog!john, john@frog.UUCP, ...!mit-eddie!jfw, jfw@eddie.mit.edu

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Date: 24 Apr 90 01:26:52 GMT
From: jb5v+@andrew.cmu.edu  (Jeffrey Kirk Bennett)
Subject: Shuttle chronology needed!

I'm doing a  senior project and need some information about the shuttle
launches. I apologize
 for the short notice, but I've only got until Wednesday night to prepare. 

I've found a lot of sources and done most of the work already, but I
can't seem to find a true
chronology of all shuttle missions, i.e. the dates, mission names,
payloads, which were 
scrubbed, length of scrubs, reason for scrubs, etc.  This would be very
helpful.

If anyone has something like this, I'd be eternally grateful! Please
respond by E-mail, given
that the time is so short.  If  it's too much trouble, then a reference
to a good source
would be fine. Thanks!

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Date: 24 Apr 90 03:06:00 GMT
From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!snorkelwacker!spdcc!xylogics!transfer!lectroid!jjmhome!cpoint!frog!john@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu  (John Woods)
Subject: Re: SPACE Digest V11 #256

In article <1990Apr16.135729.25835@cs.rochester.edu>, dietz@cs.rochester.edu (Paul Dietz) writes:
> In article <9004161200.AA01232@alw.nih.gov> AZM@CU.NIH.GOV writes:
> >Werner von Braun said, "to presume that we are the only intelligent beings
> >in that vast immensity [the known universe] is the height of human presump-
> >tuousness." He was wrong.
> The argument that "the good aliens are staying away because Man Is So
> Sinful" fails to explain why the solar system was not colonized billions
> of years earlier, when man (or even multicellular life) did not exist
> here.

Actually, the aliens DID visit billions of years ago.  They manipulated the
DNA of the primitive stromatolites in such a way as to make the evolution of
mankind, faults and all, inevitable.  Why?  Entertainment!  That's right,
folks, we are the "I Love Lucy" show of the galaxy!

(Do I *really* need to add a smiley to this?)

-- 
John Woods, Charles River Data Systems, Framingham MA, (508) 626-1101
...!decvax!frog!john, john@frog.UUCP, ...!mit-eddie!jfw, jfw@eddie.mit.edu

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Date: 24 Apr 90 03:01:00 GMT
From: cs.utexas.edu!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!snorkelwacker!spdcc!xylogics!transfer!lectroid!jjmhome!cpoint!frog!john@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu  (John Woods)
Subject: Re: SPACE Digest V11 #256

In article <9004161200.AA01232@alw.nih.gov>, AZM@CU.NIH.GOV writes:
> Werner von Braun said, "to presume that we are the only intelligent beings
> in that vast immensity [the known universe] is the height of human presump-
> tuousness." He was wrong. To presume that a race of beings ...
> [would visit obnoxious folk like us] is the HEIGHT of human presumptuousness.

A scant tick of galactic time earlier and the Earth was covered with nothing
but stromatolites.  Prime real estate for plausible carbon-chemistry beings.
The height of presumptuousness is to assume that the past 100 years is the
most likely time of a visit...
-- 
John Woods, Charles River Data Systems, Framingham MA, (508) 626-1101
...!decvax!frog!john, john@frog.UUCP, ...!mit-eddie!jfw, jfw@eddie.mit.edu

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