Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 7997;andrew.cmu.edu;Ted Anderson Received: from beak.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for +dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr11/tm2b/space/space.dl@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr11/tm2b/space/space.dl) (->ota+space.digests) ID ; Sun, 16 Dec 1990 02:03:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Precedence: junk Reply-To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU From: space-request+@Andrew.CMU.EDU To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU Date: Sun, 16 Dec 1990 02:03:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: SPACE Digest V12 #667 SPACE Digest Volume 12 : Issue 667 Today's Topics: Usable Booster Tanks? NASA Prediction Bulletins, Part 2 Future Headlines Today Where is GALILEO? WUPPE Status for 12/10/90 [AM #1] (Forwarded) Administrivia: Submissions to the SPACE Digest/sci.space should be mailed to space+@andrew.cmu.edu. Other mail, esp. [un]subscription notices, should be sent to space-request+@andrew.cmu.edu, or, if urgent, to tm2b+@andrew.cmu.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 10 Dec 90 03:00:40 GMT From: munnari.oz.au!metro!nuts!cc.nu.oz.au!mdrlc1@uunet.uu.net Subject: Usable Booster Tanks? HELLO TO EVERYONE OUT THEREIN THE BIG WIDE WORLD! This is myn first foray into the newsnetwork so please bear with me. With regard to the high cost of launch of materials etc that can be expected wiuth the construction of a permanent orbital station, what are the constraints on using the main external tank from each shuttle launch?. To the best of my knowledge these tanks reenter and are not recovered. So how much extra fuel would be needed to get them to orbit with the shuttle. Could the tank be constructed slightly larger? could an extra segment be put onto the solid boosters? Once in orbit a small orbital manouvering engine with a homing lock could be used to collect the tanks into the one location and even at a higher orbit. My senario is that given time enough tanks would be collected at one location and when all was ready a specialised series of joining, sealing, welding, pressurising etc missions could be undertaken. There are of course weight and structural limits to any craft and its performance but I am not in a position nor do I have the knowledge do determine whether it is a feasible idea. When one is talking about permanent orbital facilities it basically seems such a waste to expend so much energy to get such a useful structural element to near orbit and then to lose it for want of a few metres/sec. Anyway they are my thoughts and I an looking for some feedback on them from more knowledgable sources. So how does it sound? Nothing on this world is free and Rome wasnt built in a day as they say. I look forward to hearing what you out there think. All the best and have a happy and safe Xmass. LAURIE BARTLETT AUSPHARM INSTITUTE FOR MUCOSAL IMMUNOLOGY NEWCASTLE AUSTRALIA. E-MAIL ADRESS is at University of Newcastle MDRLC1@CC.NU.OZ.AU ------------------------------ Date: 8 Dec 90 21:37:35 GMT From: ncis.tis.llnl.gov!blackbird!tkelso@lll-winken.llnl.gov (TS Kelso) Subject: NASA Prediction Bulletins, Part 2 The most current orbital elements from the NASA Prediction Bulletins are carried on the Celestial BBS, (513) 427-0674, and are updated several times weekly. Documentation and tracking software are also available on this system. As a service to the satellite user community, the most current of these elements are uploaded weekly to sci.space. This week's elements are provided below. The Celestial BBS may be accessed 24 hours/day at 300, 1200, or 2400 baud using 8 data bits, 1 stop bit, no parity. - Current NASA Prediction Bulletins #780b - LO-19 1 20442U 90 5 G 90338.07680588 .00000321 00000-0 14271-3 0 1795 2 20442 98.6916 53.8858 0013281 22.9983 337.1790 14.29110901 45139 GPS BII-06 1 20452U 90 8 A 90340.01436593 .00000003 00000-0 99999-4 0 1395 2 20452 54.4889 248.9615 0037244 42.5298 317.8928 2.00659940 6298 MOS-1B 1 20478U 90 13 A 90335.23336991 -.00000294 00000-0 -20544-3 0 4754 2 20478 99.1766 44.6096 0000301 38.4478 321.6318 13.94844835 41422 DEBUT 1 20479U 90 13 B 90340.48098708 .00000039 00000-0 13579-3 0 1740 2 20479 99.0208 354.3193 0541346 18.2699 343.7045 12.83165844 38849 FO-20 1 20480U 90 13 C 90325.59380162 .00000066 00000-0 19792-3 0 1726 2 20480 99.0226 342.2701 0541585 52.0494 312.8281 12.83156346 36930 MOS-1B R/B 1 20491U 90 13 D 90340.46945079 -.00000400 00000-0 -73079-3 0 1794 2 20491 99.0179 2.8148 0470549 347.5423 11.4424 13.02757024 38832 LACE 1 20496U 90 15 A 90340.59280793 .00008200 00000-0 46763-3 0 3572 2 20496 43.0943 94.0045 0017149 346.8168 13.2564 15.12959029 44693 RME 1 20497U 90 15 B 90340.50982571 .00014052 00000-0 34158-3 0 4047 2 20497 43.1039 30.0487 0019007 31.5838 328.6222 15.40661954 45376 Nadezhda 2 1 20508U 90 17 A 90338.36185877 .00000096 00000-0 96086-4 0 2317 2 20508 82.9526 294.4245 0043168 231.4124 128.3158 13.73249822 38367 OKEAN 2 1 20510U 90 18 A 90337.96794478 .00001585 00000-0 23823-3 0 3839 2 20510 82.5245 301.2921 0021810 83.2875 277.1031 14.73788588 41071 INTELSAT-6 1 20523U 90 21 A 90340.03006840 .00003597 00000-0 24686-3 0 4034 2 20523 28.3401 217.1358 0015370 218.4174 141.5289 15.03097288 40324 GPS BII-07 1 20533U 90 25 A 90294.05687607 -.00000033 00000-0 00000 0 0 630 2 20533 55.1450 10.8449 0034235 102.6965 257.7562 2.00556242 4124 PegSat 1 20546U 90 28 A 90340.33506286 .00012821 00000-0 74172-3 0 3548 2 20546 94.1269 306.7333 0146081 72.1970 289.5578 15.03586986 35925 HST 1 20580U 90 37 B 90340.02319977 .00004316 00000-0 47102-3 0 3555 2 20580 28.4690 235.5074 0006177 116.9116 243.2085 14.85651529 33543 Glonass 44 1 20619U 90 45 A 90339.44485639 -.00000017 00000-0 99999-4 0 3029 2 20619 64.9908 33.0808 0024128 215.1292 144.7741 2.13103066 4270 Glonass 45 1 20620U 90 45 B 90340.50123270 -.00000017 00000-0 99999-4 0 3086 2 20620 64.9885 33.0485 0005826 33.1569 326.9363 2.13102971 4308 Glonass 46 1 20621U 90 45 C 90341.02907080 -.00000017 00000-0 99999-4 0 2588 2 20621 65.0042 33.0376 0014699 205.7419 154.2441 2.13102787 4319 Kristall 1 20635U 90 48 A 90340.83501295 .00054401 00000-0 65387-3 0 3031 2 20635 51.6031 180.9396 0026205 333.5249 26.2560 15.59895795 29605 ROSAT 1 20638U 90 49 A 90339.56302347 .00003291 00000-0 29030-3 0 1427 2 20638 52.9914 9.4808 0016730 132.1365 228.1068 14.98904807 27970 Meteor 2-19 1 20670U 90 57 A 90339.00303216 .00000110 00000-0 93516-4 0 1324 2 20670 82.5432 153.0820 0015587 164.1688 195.9965 13.83880956 22144 BADR-1 1 20685U 90 59 A 90340.82806041 .03717939 -36248-4 47222-3 0 2573 2 20685 28.4698 32.5426 0082674 302.5349 56.7649 16.24780061 22113 CRRES 1 20712U 90340.32725907 .00001286 00000-0 13353-2 0 796 2 20712 18.2792 352.6276 7123766 301.1939 7.9537 2.43608107 3276 Soyuz TM-10 1 20722U 90 67 A 90340.83502157 .00054347 00000-0 65387-3 0 2057 2 20722 51.6057 180.9429 0025312 337.6096 22.2238 15.59899427 19906 GPS BII-08 1 20724U 90 68 A 90334.29055009 .00000016 00000-0 99999-4 0 736 2 20724 54.7131 189.6322 0096546 119.2262 241.8381 2.00563577 2376 Feng Yun1-2 1 20788U 90 81 A 90335.09928359 .00000400 00000-0 29266-3 0 766 2 20788 98.9362 7.8027 0010856 18.3855 341.7693 14.00587223 12477 Progress M5 1 20824U 90 85 A 90331.92887466 .00048606 00000-0 59634-3 0 1451 2 20824 51.6236 225.7432 0024783 304.9199 54.8238 15.59451695 9600 Meteor 2-20 1 20826U 90 86 A 90338.35466112 .00000140 00000-0 11820-3 0 825 2 20826 82.5249 92.8414 0014798 65.6384 294.6323 13.83241965 9278 GPS BII-09 1 20830U 90 88 A 90324.35684874 .00000014 00000-0 99999-4 0 738 2 20830 54.8999 132.3928 0078741 116.6973 244.1323 2.00565588 1253 1990 094E 1 20927U 90 94 E 90336.23578693 .00002190 00000-0 18722-2 0 250 2 20927 47.2637 263.9969 7259384 7.5415 359.0705 2.27554824 687 1990 094F 1 20928U 90 94 F 90340.12350500 .00006632 00000-0 18576-2 0 307 2 20928 47.1801 262.7545 7280663 8.7264 359.0064 2.28164948 779 Cosmos 2103 1 20933U 90 96 A 90339.72216338 .00008209 00000-0 13959-3 0 391 2 20933 65.0070 113.8965 0009980 272.7104 87.3424 15.52049844 3338 Cosmos 2104 1 20936U 90 98 A 90337.54297737 .00176532 14173-4 10450-3 0 428 2 20936 62.8067 186.2437 0040243 124.1033 236.2909 16.16305856 2711 1990 098B 1 20937U 90 98 B 90339.16560150 .45666312 44220-4 23317-3 0 512 2 20937 62.7722 179.8594 0014853 176.9821 184.2132 16.54761690 2960 Cosmos 2105 1 20941U 90 99 A 90340.57062144 -.00000940 00000-0 26550-2 0 195 2 20941 63.2239 43.0474 7376040 318.7294 4.6546 2.00686296 336 1990 099B 1 20942U 90 99 B 90340.37630280 .00782734 11217-4 11614-2 0 240 2 20942 62.9789 345.4845 0201713 118.2972 243.9124 15.76417110 2557 1990 099C 1 20943U 90 99 C 90340.76985655 .10737128 41386-4 43696-3 0 405 2 20943 62.9916 342.4101 0066640 118.8354 242.1905 16.32984895 2640 1990 099D 1 20944U 90 99 D 90340.37073899 .00000223 00000-0 55711-3 0 55 2 20944 63.1197 43.2596 7320599 318.7187 4.6895 2.03534111 346 SATCOM I 1 20945U 90100 A 90339.99999998 .00000124 00000-0 99999-4 0 138 2 20945 0.1272 261.6480 0001637 14.6050 21.1420 1.00268231 07 GSTAR IV 1 20946U 90100 B 90340.39999998 .00000065 00000-0 99999-4 0 94 2 20946 0.0389 69.7940 0006310 157.4910 226.6510 1.00262754 04 1990 100C 1 20947U 90100 C 90339.69903833 .00007927 00000-0 36712-2 0 84 2 20947 7.2176 214.3349 7281002 190.5978 135.2796 2.26810644 323 1990 100D 1 20948U 90100 D 90332.12842225 .00248441 00000-0 31672-1 0 79 2 20948 6.9820 217.8693 7267049 184.2197 163.1356 2.31653400 158 Molniya1-79 1 20949U 90101 A 90340.29050194 -.00000489 00000-0 -63739-2 0 197 2 20949 62.8439 67.4104 7370625 288.1269 9.4967 2.00690130 271 1990 101B 1 20950U 90101 B 90339.75221304 .00715241 10159-4 12165-2 0 229 2 20950 62.8041 22.7885 0220969 123.9700 238.3371 15.70651771 1964 1990 101C 1 20951U 90101 C 90340.28618025 .01937562 38139-4 95128-3 0 323 2 20951 62.8343 20.3201 0208919 115.7270 246.5328 15.87370299 2053 1990 101D 1 20952U 90101 D 90340.40809099 .00000089 00000-0 -52747-3 0 70 2 20952 62.8591 67.3171 7401866 288.0728 9.3506 1.97032955 265 Gorizont 22 1 20953U 90102 A 90330.40304860 -.00000011 00000-0 99999-4 0 51 2 20953 1.4563 271.9443 0013311 100.5974 262.2792 0.97641033 42 1990 098F 1 20956U 90 98 F 90340.67332689 .07228362 10468-4 70601-2 0 77 2 20956 62.8080 173.9781 0065272 351.6988 7.2995 16.06401068 3216 1990 102E 1 20957U 90102 E 90340.21856596 .00001639 00000-0 21052-2 0 108 2 20957 47.3066 268.6343 7293172 3.3562 359.5699 2.22085333 254 1990 102F 1 20958U 90102 F 90338.84739005 .00003825 00000-0 20807-2 0 94 2 20958 47.2599 268.9753 7312338 3.0398 359.6154 2.22515949 240 GPS BII-10 1 20959U 90103 A 90340.70601393 .00000016 00000-0 00000 0 0 125 2 20959 54.9016 190.9416 0041393 213.1876 137.9413 2.00557106 172 1990 103B 1 20960U 90103 B 90337.99532572 .00008406 00000-0 70732-3 0 96 2 20960 21.4212 134.6566 0155234 263.5072 94.7677 14.86315986 1054 1990 103C 1 20961U 90103 C 90337.66913116 .00110632 52462-5 19940-2 0 168 2 20961 34.6130 179.3534 6051348 199.9239 119.9467 4.05567521 280 1990 104A 1 20966U 90104 A 90339.75671436 .00008764 00000-0 49507-3 0 130 2 20966 82.5055 335.6746 0013277 275.6939 84.2862 15.12915685 1076 1990 104B 1 20967U 90104 B 90341.01264456 .00004187 00000-0 23502-3 0 168 2 20967 82.5056 334.4395 0012739 273.4507 86.5272 15.13034337 1262 1990 104C 1 20975U 90104 C 90340.45302994 .00134209 00000-0 60766-2 0 64 2 20975 82.5343 334.9767 0023494 357.3680 4.7128 15.20047606 1175 1990 104D 1 20976U 90104 D 90340.45756805 .00130444 00000-0 60863-2 0 75 2 20976 82.4789 334.8716 0018334 346.0505 15.9393 15.19121928 1176 1990 104E 1 20977U 90104 E 90339.15676793 .00095403 00000-0 51102-2 0 79 2 20977 82.5238 336.2841 0007721 277.2157 82.8161 15.14554043 974 1990 105A 1 20978U 90105 A 90341.16613553 .00001376 00000-0 52715-3 0 146 2 20978 98.8582 9.5865 0081322 341.3347 18.4868 14.30409418 797 1990 105B 1 20979U 90105 B 90335.85003353 -.00000052 00000-0 -10171-4 0 16 2 20979 98.8765 4.2096 0095350 358.7226 3.2756 14.33113285 35 STS 35 1 20980U 90106 A 90340.71451300 .00053642 00000-0 37954-3 0 129 2 20980 28.4668 332.8436 0011228 341.6274 18.4530 15.72433683 705 Soyuz TM-11 1 20981U 90107 A 90340.83503658 .00033237 00000-0 40499-3 0 124 2 20981 51.6134 180.9345 0022011 328.4375 31.5483 15.59895561 716 1990 105C 1 20983U 90105 C 90337.08457626 .00209153 00000-0 35988-1 0 04 2 20983 98.8291 5.4950 0197371 357.4131 2.5925 14.55499061 216 1990 105D 1 20984U 90105 D 90340.64237750 .00027238 00000-0 39754-2 0 58 2 20984 98.9484 9.3507 0220376 343.0270 16.3659 14.60498766 731 1990 108A 1 20985U 90108 A 90339.76521560 .00078243 00000-0 12797-2 0 70 2 20985 65.0132 113.7922 0009955 268.6295 91.3913 15.52023343 277 1990 108B 1 20986U 90108 B 90338.58161013 .29063209 36629-4 16227-3 0 62 2 20986 64.9836 117.5536 0071556 60.2393 301.2550 16.46302922 100 1990 105E 1 20987U 90105 E 90337.97924624 -.00171546 00000-0 -28454-1 0 09 2 20987 98.8185 6.5202 0226032 351.8690 9.0252 14.56268526 350 1990 105F 1 20988U 90105 F 90338.05017377 .00000504 00000-0 99999-4 0 06 2 20988 98.8328 6.5028 0186681 354.4551 8.5660 14.54225185 366 1990 105G 1 20989U 90105 G 90337.29400146 .00000484 00000-0 99999-4 0 09 2 20989 98.8389 5.7042 0185476 358.9690 1.1430 14.52697379 242 1990 105H 1 20990U 90105 H 90340.02758831 .00464715 00000-0 65458-1 0 71 2 20990 98.9108 8.6654 0205698 346.3097 13.4963 14.61527569 651 1990 105J 1 20991U 90105 J 90340.53929036 .00057511 00000-0 52150-2 0 51 2 20991 98.9253 9.3192 0271360 348.1424 11.3547 14.71041907 722 1990 105K 1 20992U 90105 K 90338.04260715 .00000587 00000-0 99999-4 0 07 2 20992 98.8375 6.4625 0207981 355.7428 2.6535 14.57981860 299 1990 105L 1 20993U 90105 L 90337.29702487 .00000440 00000-0 99999-4 0 09 2 20993 98.8808 5.7268 0173636 357.8948 2.1512 14.49900011 251 1990 098G 1 20994U 90 98 G 90340.87698918 .01629483 41479-4 52704-3 0 97 2 20994 62.8063 172.7699 0029140 121.3733 239.3317 16.24454096 3257 1990 098H 1 20995U 90 98 H 90338.65560779 .06173369 41211-4 23394-2 0 14 2 20995 62.8105 181.7710 0033060 121.3826 239.0765 16.22247289 2893 1990 098J 1 20996U 90 98 J 90338.59461859 .00452654 42071-4 10450-3 0 13 2 20996 62.7906 181.9816 0010908 40.0310 331.3245 16.29425726 2881 1990 105L 1 20997U 90105 L 90338.04103248 .00490309 00000-0 68477-1 0 19 2 20997 98.8010 6.5163 0212012 355.6574 12.3520 14.61003441 365 1990 105M 1 20998U 90105 M 90341.05769937 .00266982 00000-0 39243-1 0 48 2 20998 98.8823 9.7500 0207403 344.9963 14.5421 14.60562784 801 1990 105N 1 20999U 90105 N 90340.51686921 .00356847 00000-0 56447-1 0 45 2 20999 98.7955 9.1155 0195599 348.3494 11.3589 14.58450107 729 1990 109A 1 21000U 90109 A 90339.81587820 .00485980 40291-4 28965-3 0 50 2 21000 62.7984 296.8441 0093498 113.7355 247.4148 16.08609929 171 -- Dr TS Kelso Assistant Professor of Space Operations tkelso@blackbird.afit.af.mil Air Force Institute of Technology ------------------------------ Date: 9 Dec 90 19:32:04 GMT From: pyramid!infmx!billd@hplabs.hpl.hp.com (William Daul) Subject: Future Headlines Today I just thought of a ficticious new article for the Enquirer: U.S. Can't Put Sh_t Into Space by Melvin Frustrated After a number of major failures including Challenger, the Hubble Space Telescope, and Astro-1, NASA has proven again that they can't deliver "quality" with their current budget. Now they can't even take care of the fecal material. Due to problems with the waste disposal system they may have to come back early. NASA needs either a massive infusion of money...perhaps some training in "Total Quality Management" might help. The way things seem to be going I think the Baldrige Award is out of the question. I want a US "quality" Space Program, but something is keeping us from it, perhaps NASA's problems are just a very visible example of the problems facing the entire US workforce. ------------------------------ Date: 10 Dec 90 17:43:16 GMT From: uvaarpa!murdoch!amsun13.apma.Virginia.EDU!sal9e@mcnc.org (Stephen A. Lowe) Subject: Where is GALILEO? I thought that the Galileo spacecraft was supposed to fly by Earth this past weekend? What happened? Did I get the date wrong? What's the scoop? ------------------------------ Date: 10 Dec 90 20:13:16 GMT From: trident.arc.nasa.gov!yee@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Peter E. Yee) Subject: WUPPE Status for 12/10/90 [AM #1] (Forwarded) UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN-MADISON WUPPE STATUS REPORT NO. 17 AM,MONDAY,DECEMBER 10, 1990 Two WUPPE high-priority targets were observed last night and the Wisconsin telescope aboard the Space Shuttle Columbia successfully co-observed all other Astro targets during the course of the night. Observed for 43 minutes by the Wisconsin telescope was the reflection nebula NGC 7023. This is the primordial nebula of the hot young star HD 200775. The nebula is comprised of vast clouds of dust and gas and supplied the matter from which the star at its core was formed. The light from the star illuminates the surrounding nebula and the starlight is reflected by the matter in the nebula. The reflected light is polarized as it is scattered. WUPPE measurements of the polarized light will help astronomers understand the dynamics of primordial nebulae from which stars are formed. The other WUPPE primary, Alpha Orionis, is a red supergiant. This star gives out most of its light in the infrared, but it also radiates in the ultraviolet. Astronomers think that this star is surrounded by a dust cloud composed in part of magnesium. WUPPE will look for changes in the polarization of light as it traverses the cloud to try and firm up ideas as to its chemical composition. Four other Astro targets were co-observed by the WUPPE telescope, which continues to perform well. Ground command operations are running smoothly for the Wisconsin telescope. ------------------------------ End of SPACE Digest V12 #667 *******************