Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 7997;andrew.cmu.edu;Ted Anderson Received: from beak.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for +dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr11/tm2b/space/space.dl@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr11/tm2b/space/space.dl) (->ota+space.digests) ID ; Mon, 17 Dec 1990 02:13:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Precedence: junk Reply-To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU From: space-request+@Andrew.CMU.EDU To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU Date: Mon, 17 Dec 1990 02:13:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: SPACE Digest V12 #673 SPACE Digest Volume 12 : Issue 673 Today's Topics: space news from Nov 12 AW&ST Re: $$/pound of Freedom vs LLNL (was: ELV Support...) Re: ASTRO status at 4/16:00 MET Re: Who killed Nuclear Rockets? (was Re: The Next Ten Years In Astro-1 Status for 12/10/90 [1135 CST] (Forwarded) Re: NASA Headline News for 12/10/90 (Forwarded) Re: Black Holes NASA Prediction Bulletins: Space Shuttle Administrivia: Submissions to the SPACE Digest/sci.space should be mailed to space+@andrew.cmu.edu. Other mail, esp. [un]subscription notices, should be sent to space-request+@andrew.cmu.edu, or, if urgent, to tm2b+@andrew.cmu.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 12 Dec 90 04:44:42 GMT From: usc!cs.utexas.edu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!utzoo!henry@ucsd.edu (Henry Spencer) Subject: space news from Nov 12 AW&ST Editorial calling for solid funding for the X-30, observing that every year the Senate says it's a valuable program and then zeros the budget for it (and then the House puts it back). Making progress requires reliable funding. Germany picks astronaut teams to train for Spacelab D-2 and the German Mir flight. [They didn't give names for some reason.] Image of a gravitationally-lensed quasar from HST's Faint Object Camera, substantially more detailed than the best images from the ground. NASA appoints five-man team to assess recent orbiter turnaround problems and consider whether changes are needed. The team is headed by "former astronaut" John Young. ["Former"? I thought he was still nominally an active astronaut.] Amusingly, later in the same issue, Lenoir is quoted as saying that the team has already finished the bulk of its assessment. Informally, its conclusions are that recent processing problems have no common pattern but that it is hard to say whether the trouble rate is abnormal. NASA would like airline data on industrial accidents for comparison, but the airlines consider this proprietary. General recommendations include a specific leader being responsible for each task, engineers spending more time "in the shop" with the technicians, more specialization among at least a core of technicians (there has been a tendency to eliminate specialization to cut costs), less wildly-optimistic scheduling, and discipline for the more serious mistakes extending to the supervisors as well as the technicians. Unofficial sources inside the space station work at JSC say: "Our worst fear was approval of full funding. It would have made it difficult for us to achieve the major redesign needed." There is widespread agreement that a major shakeup was needed, but the budget cuts make a splendid justification for it. Speaking of which... Redesign work has been underway quietly for some time, but now it is out in the open. The long truss is probably not long for this world, in particular: a Goddard project to attach science payloads to it has been cancelled, and the request for bids for the assembly training facility in Houston has been withdrawn. The leading idea right now is simply to retain the central cluster of modules, but kill the truss. Among other advantages, the resulting station should have gravity-gradient stability, eliminating attitude-control thruster firings that eat fuel and bother the microgravity people. NASA HQ has issued an 11-point directive to centers, contractors, and the international partners on how the redesign will be done. Assembly will assume at most four shuttle missions per year. Construction will be done in phases. Budget is capped at $2.6G/yr, down from $4G/yr. The initial crew will be four, not eight. Life sciences and materials work explicitly have highest priority. An attempt will be made to stick to March 1995 as the date for start of assembly. [A mere 13 years after Reagan told NASA to build a space station. I suppose that's not bad... considering.] The redesign will try to avoid impact on the international partners, and will involve them early. [Translation: if NASA botched this redesign process like the last one, they wouldn't have any partners left.] (There is, however, a possibility that the international modules may fly a year later than the current date, which will bother ESA's budget in particular.) There will be no revision of the management structure, despite a lot of feeling that it could use one. Development not directly supporting the "baseline configuration" will be dropped or deferred. Lenoir says no station hardware is immune to being eliminated or deferred, but there is unlikely to be any move towards free-flying experiment platforms (on the excuse that the station will be only man-tended for the first 3-4 years anyway) or expendable launchers (in particular, NASA does not want to wait for development of a new booster). There will be no specific target date for completion, in hopes that station expansion will be seen as an ongoing process. One problem yet to be resolved is the clash between "no development not supporting baseline configuration" and the interest in using Fred as a Moon/Mars staging point. Interesting graph of projected space shuttle launch schedules vs. actual, with every projection assuming that the launch rate is about to rise to a high sustained level. More realism called for. Congress largely kills SDI's nuclear X-ray laser, cutting it back to a modest long-term research project. The nuclear-directed-energy part of SDI's budget was cut drastically, and LLNL says that the project's current near-term-hardware orientation cannot be maintained. The project has hit two fundamental technical problems -- conversion efficiency and focusing -- and one massive political problem, the aversion to exploding large numbers of nuclear weapons as part of a defensive system. Atlantis set to launch Nov 15. New shuttle manifest being composed for the next five years (although probably with specific dates only for the next three), including seven launches in 1991. It is said that the proposal for a Mriya-launched pure-rocket Hotol has reawakened British government interest in funding the project to some extent. [Not entirely surprising. The British government has been obsessed with joint projects for a long time, to the extent where it often seems to consider British-only projects inherently worthless.] Story on a new spacesuit design originated as a private project by Boeing Huntsville engineer Brand Griffin and space artist Paul Hudson. Volunteer efforts from colleagues in NASA and industry have supported construction of an engineering mockup, with Harrison Schmitt assisting in evaluation. The major novelty is that the torso, helmet, and backpack are one rigid piece. The helmet uses several flat panes rather than a bubble shape, which gives a roomier helmet, a better view, and the opportunity to mount data displays on the framing bars. That last is of particular note, because current cuff-mounted checklists are widely considered inadequate, and high-tech solutions like voice control have various problems. Putting the displays inside the helmet would reduce problems with glare and avoid lunar dust, and would eliminate most of the chest-mounted clutter of the current suits, which gets in the way of the arms. Flat windows also permit thicker panes for better radiation shielding, and make louvered sunshades practical. A final flourish is that the rigid suit body could be attached to vehicles to provide a sort of ready-made cockpit. [One major loss is that the proposal does not envision higher internal pressure to reduce prebreathing time.] The four "prime" contractors for Hermes agree to form a single management company to run the show, once final funding approval is given. Aerospatiale study confirms that Hermes would be feasible as a space-station lifeboat. ESA is building two for its own use, and the station would need two more for lifeboat use at a total cost of about $800M. They would go up on Ariane 5s and would share Hermes infrastructure for operations. The payload area would be fitted with six rear-facing seats in addition to the two for the pilots. The major design change needed would be better protection against micrometeorites and space debris for the long stay in orbit. Soviet-Canadian joint venture plans to build and launch three comsats for services to international businesses. NPO PM (Krasnoyarsk) will build the spacecraft bus, which will then go to Spar Aerospace for payload installation, returning to the USSR for launch. The birds will go into Soviet comsat slots in Clarke orbit, and will be operated by Soviet facilities and marketed by Canadian Satellite Communications. Various kinds of approval are still needed, not to mention significant funding. Japan's Space Communications Corp signs with Arianespace to launch Superbird E, a replacement for Superbird B that went into the Atlantic when Ariane failed in February. (The replacement for BS-2X, the other casualty, will go up on an Atlas.) -- "The average pointer, statistically, |Henry Spencer at U of Toronto Zoology points somewhere in X." -Hugh Redelmeier| henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry ------------------------------ Date: 9 Dec 90 04:47:20 GMT From: zephyr.ens.tek.com!tektronix!sequent!crg5!szabo@uunet.uu.net (Nick Szabo) Subject: Re: $$/pound of Freedom vs LLNL (was: ELV Support...) In article <1990Dec9.003401.13555@zoo.toronto.edu> henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes: > >In case you haven't noticed, Fred is losing its truss in the latest design >revision, now underway. And it won't be long 'til the striptease is over. :-) :-) -- Nick Szabo szabo@sequent.com "We live and we learn, or we don't live long" -- Robert A. Heinlein The above opinions are my own and not related to those of any organization I may be affiliated with. ------------------------------ Date: 10 Dec 90 07:40:41 GMT From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!cs.utexas.edu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!utzoo!henry@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Henry Spencer) Subject: Re: ASTRO status at 4/16:00 MET In article <1990Dec7.161420.10210@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> gsh7w@astsun.astro.Virginia.EDU (Greg Hennessy) writes: >... The astronauts are doing better than expected, and >the machines worse. This happens a lot, actually, although you wouldn't know it from the things certain people say... -- "The average pointer, statistically, |Henry Spencer at U of Toronto Zoology points somewhere in X." -Hugh Redelmeier| henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry ------------------------------ Date: 9 Dec 90 21:37:51 GMT From: portal!cup.portal.com!mmm@apple.com (Mark Robert Thorson) Subject: Re: Who killed Nuclear Rockets? (was Re: The Next Ten Years In Two main problems: you can't avoid releasing highly radioactive fission products in the rocket exhaust, and the worst-case accident scenario is is pretty bad if the rocket is hot during ascent. On the other hand, nuclear propulsion makes a lot of sense for interplanetary missions, in which the rocket only becomes hot after being delivered to orbit. Of course there is the problem of shielding with regard to manned missions. Shielding must completely surround the cabin if a manned nuclear rocket takes off from Earth, because radiation is reflected back into the cabin by the atmosphere. In space, however, a simple disc of lead (called a "shadow" shield) is sufficient. ------------------------------ Date: 10 Dec 90 20:15:24 GMT From: trident.arc.nasa.gov!yee@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Peter E. Yee) Subject: Astro-1 Status for 12/10/90 [1135 CST] (Forwarded) Astro 1 Mission Report #45 11:35 a.m. CST, December 10, 1990 8/10:45 MET Spacelab Mission Operations Control Marshall Space Flight Center There were smiles and hugs in the Astro Science Operations Area as ultraviolet science gathering for the mission came to an end just after 9:00 CST this morning. "We just had a wonderful mission," said Arthur Davidsen, Hopkins Ultraviolet Telescope principal investigator. "We've spent 13 years getting ready for this opportunity. There were many times when we feared it would never come to pass, and other times when we thought it wouldn't work, but it actually worked spectacularly well. Everybody on the HUT team is just thrilled with the results." The observations ended on a high note. The three ultraviolet telescopes were in the midst of an observation of Comet Levy, just discovered in May of this year. "Here we are just about ready to button up the payload and bring it home, and Hopkins Ultraviolet Telescope is continuing to make an observation in the last moment. It was the last observation of the mission; the spectrum of the comet was on the screen; and they were just jumping up and down!" said Deputy Mission Scientist Gene Urban as he described the elation of the science teams at the success of the mission. "We are just delighted at the way the mission played out," said Mission Manager Jack Jones. "We can only thank the great team we have working the mission." Urban reported that Dr. Leonard Fisk, NASA Associate Administrator for the Office of Space Science and Application, had spoken with the Astro team shortly after it was announced that the mission would end a day earlier than hoped. Urban said that Fisk told the group: "Although we would like to have had more science time on orbit, from what I have been told the science return is incredible, and I consider this mission as nothing less than a total success." Though the Shuttle is scheduled to land at 11:51 CST tonight, the ultraviolet instruments began to shut down within a few minutes of the announcement of the rescheduled touch down. Deactivation and stowing of the telescopes and Instrument Pointing System must begin around 12 hours prior to landing. Though its motions are restricted by landing preparations, the Broad Band X-Ray Telescope may take limited observations up until four hours from the end of the mission. ------------------------------ Date: 10 Dec 90 22:26:07 GMT From: usc!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!uxa.cso.uiuc.edu!sfn20715@ucsd.edu (Steve "il-Manhous" Norton) Subject: Re: NASA Headline News for 12/10/90 (Forwarded) yee@trident.arc.nasa.gov (Peter E. Yee) writes: >time. Galileo gained about 10,800 miles per hour during the flyby. A >photo of the moon and another of Australia were downlinked within >minutes of the flyby. More than 2,000 images of the Earth and moon >are scheduled to be downlinked in the next few days. ------- Could these be made public in computerized format? Surely the "origional researcher for x years" clause wouldn't prevent such things from being released, and the business about "computer resources unavailble" is as always negated by the enormous number of anonymous FTP sites that support graphics images. ------------------------------ Date: 10 Dec 90 18:38:37 GMT From: cs.dal.ca!vanadis@uunet.uu.net (Jose Castejon-Amenedo) Subject: Re: Black Holes In article <2389@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> xxc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Raymond Seibert) writes: > Ok, the space shuttle is on the search for black holes which brings up one > of my oldest questions. According to what I know about the current theory > about them, they begin as regular supergiant stars, then collapse in on > themselves. Here is what I don't understand, it then procedes to turn > inside out, leaving a void in the center. Now let me tell my version of the > story. It keeps collapsing until it can collapse no more -- possibly forming > a donut(sp?) shape?. It can still behave as the above theory's black hole > does, but matter keeps sticking onto the top of the existing matter. Now > according to this theory, the black hole should at some point consume enough > matter to make it unstable. This in turn would cause all the compressed > matter to be spewed out in a tremendous explosion. This is a classical vision (a la Laplace) of what a black hole is like. In the context of general relativity (probably the most successful gravity theory available) black holes are much more exotic beasts. If a star is massive enough, nothing will prevent it from collapsing endlessly once its nuclear fuel is burnt up. Assuming a spherically symmetric model, the star will cross what is called its event horizon and will collapse all the way to a spacetime singularity. No matter, no energy, no nothing is at the singularity. In fact, the sentence "at the singularity" does not make sense, because spacetime singularities are not points of the spacetime manifold. What a black hole of this kind swallows vanishes forever, and you cannot speak of matter sticking onto the top of existing matter. There is a mechanism whereby a black hole can explode, and that is a result of the Hawking process. But it has to do nothing whatsoever with instability of matter in the black hole. > Believe me; its better than that 4D crap that they try to pull on us. What crap? If you are referring to general relativity the point is that its scope is greater and deeper than Newton's theory. There is nothing sacred about it, though, just as there was nothing sacred about Newton's, and it was superceded eventually. JCA vanadis@cs.dal.ca ------------------------------ Date: 11 Dec 90 02:05:29 GMT From: ncis.tis.llnl.gov!blackbird!tkelso@lll-winken.llnl.gov (TS Kelso) Subject: NASA Prediction Bulletins: Space Shuttle The most current orbital elements from the NASA Prediction Bulletins are carried on the Celestial BBS, (513) 427-0674, and are updated several times weekly. Documentation and tracking software are also available on this system. As a service to the satellite user community, the most current elements for the current shuttle mission are provided below. The Celestial BBS may be accessed 24 hours/day at 300, 1200, or 2400 baud using 8 data bits, 1 stop bit, no parity. STS 35 1 20980U 90106 A 90343.95062616 .00170916 00000-0 11617-2 0 194 2 20980 28.4647 309.2864 0016232 26.8618 333.3723 15.73068358 1213 -- Dr TS Kelso Assistant Professor of Space Operations tkelso@blackbird.afit.af.mil Air Force Institute of Technology ------------------------------ End of SPACE Digest V12 #673 *******************