Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 7997;andrew.cmu.edu;Ted Anderson Received: from hogtown.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for +dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr11/tm2b/space/space.dl@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr11/tm2b/space/space.dl) (->ota+space.digests) ID ; Fri, 22 Feb 91 01:28:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Precedence: junk Reply-To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU From: space-request+@Andrew.CMU.EDU To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU Date: Fri, 22 Feb 91 01:28:23 -0500 (EST) Subject: SPACE Digest V13 #185 SPACE Digest Volume 13 : Issue 185 Today's Topics: Re: Controversy 70a13pr (was Re: Mars Mystery?) Ulysses Update - 02/20/91 Re: ONE SMALL STEP - REPLY Re: Center of mass of the Big E (TOS TNG) Administrivia: Submissions to the SPACE Digest/sci.space should be mailed to space+@andrew.cmu.edu. Other mail, esp. [un]subscription requests, should be sent to space-request+@andrew.cmu.edu, or, if urgent, to tm2b+@andrew.cmu.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 21 Feb 91 01:06:24 GMT From: optilink!cramer@uunet.uu.net (Clayton Cramer) Subject: Re: Controversy In article <1991Feb19.224024.25578@zoo.toronto.edu>, henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes: > 5 out of 7. Surveyor 2 had an engine failure and tumbled out of control > at the beginning of retrofire. Surveyor 4 mysteriously went silent just > before landing; it might have landed successfully if this was just a > radio failure. > "Read the OSI protocol specifications? | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology Nothing mysterious about it at all. The beings that made the face on Mars, didn't want us to see that the face they made on the Moon had acne. -- Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid,pixar,tekbspa}!optilink!cramer "Well, maybe the Holocaust was right *for that culture*." -- a moral relativist with whom I work. You must be kidding! No company would hold opinions like mine! ------------------------------ Date: 21 Feb 91 17:37:09 GMT From: kr0u+@andrew.cmu.edu (Kevin William Ryan) Subject: 70a13pr (was Re: Mars Mystery?) Second image of the mars face. To view them uudecode the files and load them into the nearest GIF viewer. Questions about decoding and viewing are referred to alt.sex.graphics and alt.graphics.pixtools - I won't be answering them. The first section is the original data that accompanied the images (huge mothers, over 1Kx1K). I am not certain of the details of this ascii information, so you're on your own. It contains location, sun angle, and a bunch of other stuff, all tucked away in there. The images here are cleaned - they are 128x128 clips from the big image, median filtered to remove (considerable) noise and contrast stretched for details. The ugly black spots are camera defects, as far as I can tell. The second section is the uuencoded .GIF - I suggest you just run this entire mail message through uudecode and it should give you the binary .GIF file. 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MXC>L:A/9"2NSF$(:XQM]B1Z%,EN?YD35V+,>N[C+L[@])KE`^R(@E;@@Q49Z MVE&%VSXMR;FL^SN?&Y89!C#UX2=IQ486PE.$-6NAP4ZM2U+\U8,@*_FZH+L5 MB^)3WO4P\$HH]Z2[@+-._3*GFQ8O\KHR/OMZ.$(UA*5$O^JRQOM+/2*S+!.V MX-64\R-,738<59\B.^B3)(VT%=.0.Y'<01BN)1 M-#E-93/`H`6O+"N%AU.X:#.JP9,?OUJG3\%LY]2B1I%+O36A0?)`-J(X.Q=2 M!$)):Q>)]M%=9GG9438&^H7LD`HS!N[8U6')F%-(@_4L0P?K"3I6QNGL< MKWFP'.RN[_JSD9N\]6$YU>I+YE0E=E--!GM.K!1(LS:'2C0WD+%`Z!%: MP0I5%UA2`V4\1L6^2^FR10QUI63E49SWKA1%C4",9A95EL?9.;S*&Q$C6`7& MQ2010C5D3F;%4RRR--M[F<5Q0S&%QSL%6L#JP]CZ1D_%1TJTE`,VNJ"CJBC6 M2R:\7G;/2LTM#WC CSER037@UABTUCC.BITNET (BARRY BOWDEN) writes: >... Why can't NASA put more of its projects into the >commercial procurement system? Is it afraid it will not have as much >control over the projects it turns over to commercial interests? Would >this not stimulate commercial interests into getting into space and >make getting into space less expensive over the next 10-20 years? NASA wants control, is not really very interested in reducing costs, and is politically required to spend lots of money doing things the traditional way with the traditional contractors benefitting. You're thinking in subversive capitalist terms; you have to understand that spaceflight in Western nations today is basically a socialist bureaucracy. -- "Read the OSI protocol specifications? | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology I can't even *lift* them!" | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry ------------------------------ Date: 21 Feb 91 07:42:56 GMT From: bu.edu!buphy!bmack@uunet.uu.net (Bill Mackiewicz) Subject: Re: Center of mass of the Big E (TOS TNG) In article <19279@ists.ists.ca> white@nereid.ists.ca (H. Peter White) writes: > >The thing I wanted to know is in STIV:TVH, when one of the star ships gets >stopped in interstellar space by the whale ship, they were going to try to rig >up a solar sail for power. Shouldn't this be solar panel, and wouldn't they >have to be roughly 1 or 2 AU's from a star to get any power? Frankly, I think this is yet another case of the writer wanting something to sound ultra-scientific and future-y. I've heard of solar sails, and in one of the TOS novels, they make use of a vessel using a solar sail as a form of propulsion. But the writers didn't give us any background in STIV:TVH. I'd assume the ship MIGHT survive (this being GR's land, and all), but I wouldn't bet too much on it. Bill Mackiewicz bmack@buphy.bu.edu Department of Physics Boston University ------------------------------ End of SPACE Digest V13 #185 *******************