Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 7997;andrew.cmu.edu;Ted Anderson Received: from hogtown.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for +dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr11/tm2b/space/space.dl@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr11/tm2b/space/space.dl) (->ota+space.digests) ID ; Thu, 27 Jun 91 02:39:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Precedence: junk Reply-To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU From: space-request+@Andrew.CMU.EDU To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU Date: Thu, 27 Jun 91 02:39:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: SPACE Digest V13 #722 SPACE Digest Volume 13 : Issue 722 Today's Topics: Body Mass Measurements Re: Vote on Space Station MAJOR SOLAR FLARE ALERT - 10 JUNE Re: Negative Economic Multipliers Re: Democracy: Easy Come, Easy Go Olympus services interrupted Re: Fred Vote Thursday Re: More on Freedom Vote Re: orbiter production ESA Press Release No.17/91 Administrivia: Submissions to the SPACE Digest/sci.space should be mailed to space+@andrew.cmu.edu. Other mail, esp. [un]subscription requests, should be sent to space-request+@andrew.cmu.edu, or, if urgent, to tm2b+@andrew.cmu.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 10 Jun 91 17:22:49 GMT From: pmafire!alan@uunet.uu.net (Alan Herbst) Subject: Body Mass Measurements How are body mass measurements made aboard the shuttle in the weight- lessness of space? Is it the mirco-gravity at 180 miles up? Thanks, Alan -- Alan Herbst - WINCO Computer Engineering Group 208-526-3939, 0800 to 1615 MST Path: ...alan@pmafire.inel.gov ------------------------------ Date: 10 Jun 91 20:10:10 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!isi.edu!cew@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Craig E. Ward) Subject: Re: Vote on Space Station In article <1991Jun6.235609.29430@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> cain@geomag.gly.fsu.edu (Joe Cain) writes: >...As >Rep. Traxler noted, the added money required for the next few years to >continue the Space Station cannot be sustained without significant >increases in taxes or severe cutting of other programs in this part of ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >the federal budget. This is the piece of sophistry that Traxler is using to con part of the pro-space community. The whole of the federal budget should be looked at for funding balances, not the less than 1% that goes to NASA. I'm told that the victory margin for the station was larger than expected and that it will encourage those on the Senate side. The question to the AGU now is does it still want to strive to make the space budget smaller or to push for the station, improving the environment for remotely-manned projects? -- Craig E. Ward Slogan: "nemo me impune lacessit" USPS: USC/Information Sciences Institute 4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 1200 Marina del Rey, CA 90292 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jun 91 12:11:02 MDT From: oler <@BITNET.CC.CMU.EDU:oler@HG.ULeth.CA> (CARY OLER) Subject: MAJOR SOLAR FLARE ALERT - 10 JUNE X-St-Vmsmail-To: st%"space+@andrew.cmu.edu" -- MAJOR SOLAR FLARE ALERT -- JUNE 10, 1991 Flare Event Summary Potential Impact Assessment -------- MAJOR ENERGETIC EVENT SUMMARY A major class M6.4/1N flare occurred at 13:58 UT on 10 June. The flare was located at N32W14 and was associated with fairly strong initial radio bursts. A Type II sweep was observed from this event, but does not appear to be associated with a Type IV. This event was rather impulsive. The event began at 13:51 UT, peaked at 13:58 UT and ended at 14:13 UT. Region 6659 continues to pose a major threat. Solar activity from this region has been high over the past 24 hours. A significant flurry of M-class flare activity has developed and is expected to continue for the next 24 hours. POTENTIAL TERRESTRIAL IMPACT ASSESSMENT This last major class M6.4/1N flare is not expected to have a significant terrestrial impact. A light to possibly moderate impact is possible, but will probably be confined to the "low" category if an impact materializes at all. Proton levels are currently running between 60 and 80 pfu at greater than 10 MeV. PCA has also increased over the past several hours, although this increase is expected to be only temporary (barring a major proton flare). There is an approximate 50% chance for a significant proton flare over the next 24 to 72 hours. Solar activity will remain high. M-class flaring and isolated major X-class flares are possible and are expected over the next three days from Region 6659. Terrestrial impacts could be high given further major flares. High-energy events are possible from this region. White light flares may also be possible. ** End of Alert ** ------------------------------ Date: 11 Jun 91 00:37:56 GMT From: sequent!muncher.sequent.com!szabo@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: Negative Economic Multipliers In article jim@pnet01.cts.com (Jim Bowery) writes: >...you can do damage to people and industries by giving them money... Whew, that was long. But _well_ worth the read. I highly recommend this article to all those either interested in or fed up with the recent NASA funding wars. -- Nick Szabo szabo@sequent.com "If you understand something the first time you see it, you probably knew it already. The more bewildered you are, the more successful the mission was." -- Ed Stone, Voyager space explorer ------------------------------ Date: 10 Jun 91 17:33:36 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!dsinc!bagate!cbmvax!ricci@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Mark Ricci - CATS) Subject: Re: Democracy: Easy Come, Easy Go Matthew DeLuca writes: >NASA's money is NASA's money. Try again. NASA's money is our tax dollars. As Casey Stengel said, "You could look it up." And he writes: >Of course I won't. The government takes care of itself; when was the last >dispute you heard about funding for House and Senate activities? They >sit down, hash it out, and do it. Likewise for the rest of the government. >The dispute over Congressional salaries was such a big deal only because >of the growing dissatisfaction over government idiocy. If you mean when the last time there was a dispute over funding the operation of the Congress, you are absolutely correct, they never argue about that. Congress has become just another black hole entitlement program sucking in tax dollars for itself. Your picture of the government -- from NASA having its own money to a bureaucracy that takes care of itself -- is far from correct. It might be politically correct, however. $*) -- ============================================================================= Mark Ricci - CATS | "I don't think so! Homey don't play dat." Commodore Applications and | Technical Support | - Homey the Clown ricci@cbmvax.commodore.com | In Living Color ============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: 5 Jun 91 08:28:20 GMT From: news-server.csri.toronto.edu!torsqnt!lethe!telly!moore!eastern!egsgate!Uucp@uunet.uu.net (Bev Freed) Subject: Olympus services interrupted 31 May 1991 ESA RELEASE #16 OLYMPUS SERVICES INTERRUPTED After nearly 2 years of successful operations Olympus, an advanced telecommunications satellite of the European Space Agency, had to interrupt its experimental services on 29 May 1991 at 03.21 GMT due to difficulties encountered with the attitude control of the satellite. The attempts to return the satellite back to normal mode have not been successful for the time being and it is possible that a significant delay will occur before operations can be resumed. An independent Enquiry Boar4d will be set up to investigate the incident, assess the technical difficulty and recommend the best course of action. Olympus is a multi-purpose telecommunications satellite featuring direct TV broadcasting, distance learning, various business networks and several other experimental payloads. It was launched on 12 July 1989 and is operated from the control center in Fucino, Italy. -- Bev Freed - via FidoNet node 1:129/104 UUCP: ...!pitt!nss!freed INTERNET: freed@nss.FIDONET.ORG ------------------------------ Date: 4 Jun 91 19:22:36 GMT From: news-server.csri.toronto.edu!torsqnt!lethe!telly!moore!eastern!egsgate!Uucp@uunet.uu.net (Allen W. Sherzer) Subject: Re: Fred Vote Thursday In article <30555@hydra.gatech.EDU> ccoprmd@prism.gatech.EDU (Matthew DeLuca) writes: >Just as a point of information, the tiebreaking authority of the Vice >President is in the Senate, not the House. Stupid mistake on my part, thanks for the correction. >Maybe this near-death will scare the Freedom people into getting some >hardware built... I hope so too. Even now there is a lot which could be done to reduce program costs. I hope they will be looked into. Allen -- +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Allen W. Sherzer | DETROIT: Where the weak are killed and eaten. | | aws@iti.org | | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: 4 Jun 91 20:41:33 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!torsqnt!lethe!telly!moore!eastern!egsgate!Uucp@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Doug Mohney) Subject: Re: More on Freedom Vote In article <1991Jun4.013645.13914@iti.org>, aws@iti.org (Allen W. Sherzer) writes: >It's more than just Congress, it's also the Space Council and space >activists. Should be space fanatics. > Look at the signs: OMB is using the money for another >orbiter to fund HLV work. Congress is moving toward commercial >procurement policies which will move cargo off the Shuttle. The >only thing left is spacelab and Freedom resuply which can be done >for FAR less with expendables. > >If NASA doesn't get the orbiters they will be forced to allow for >the use of ACRV or perhaps Comet to transport astronauts. When >that happens the Shuttle is finished. If Freedom is canned, NASA can put-put along with a 4 Shuttle fleet. Less wear and tear on all orbiters. >This won't happen overnight and it will take work by activists >who want to see cost effective infrastructure. But it will >happen. Allen has obviously not yet butted heads with the Astronaut Mafia, DoD and the Air Force, Congressional Pork Barrel, and the lobbying firms who work for Rockwell International and Lockheed. Nor with anyone who has a Shuttle poster on their wall. If there is a serious proposal to ditch STS for Soviet-made tin cans(which Mr. Sherzer assures us can be done for less money than it takes to build two B-2 bombers), I'll be writing a check to the "Made in the USA" advertising council. Signature envy: quality of some people to put 24+ lines in their .sigs -- > SYSMGR@CADLAB.ENG.UMD.EDU < -- ------------------------------ Date: 10 Jun 91 11:48:39 GMT From: ksr!clj%ksr.com@uunet.uu.net (Chris Jones) Subject: Re: orbiter production In article <1991Jun9.204826.2811@iti.org>, aws@iti (Allen W. Sherzer) writes: >In article <3943@ksr.com> clj@ksr.com (Chris Jones) writes: >>Also, I think you are allowing your preference for the >>Titan to cause you to ignore the differences between the Titan II, with no >>solid fuel strap-ons, and the Titans flying today. > >Not at all. Which of the differences do you consider relevant? > The one I mentioned, I consider relevant. The Gemini program used, essentially, the first two liquid-fuelled stages of today's Titans. The strap-on boosters have never been man-rated, and have failed in the past. As I've posted in the past, the Titan launch sequence, which has the thing taking off with only the solids burning, and igniting the core liquid fuelled engines later, is also a worry. I'm not sure if your proposal involves an upper stage, but that's another difference between a Titan II and a Titan 34 or Titan 4. -- Chris Jones clj@ksr.com {uunet,harvard,world}!ksr!clj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jun 91 15:40:23 SET From: MSKALA%ESRIN.BITNET@vma.cc.cmu.edu Comment: CROSSNET mail via MAILER@CMUCCVMA Return-Receipt-To: MSKALA@ESRIN.BITNET Subject: ESA Press Release No.17/91 Subject: ESA Press Release No.17/91 Date: 10 June 1991, 15:38:50 SET From: Mike M. Skala ++39-6-94180-293 MSKALA at ESRIN To: SEDSNEWS at TAMVM1 space+@andrew.cmu.edu yamada@yscvax.ysc.go.jp ESA Press Release No.17; Paris, 6 June 1991 ESA IS ATTEMPTING TO RECOVER OLYMPUS After the loss, early on 29 May 1991, of orbit and attitude control of the Olympus satellite, ESA is now attempting to rescue the mission. Olympus is an advanced telecommunications satellite featuring TV broadcasting, distance learning, various business networks and several other experimental paylaods. Since the loss of orbit and attitude control, all services are interrupted. It is now believed that the satellite is rotating witha period of about 90 seconds. It is drifting eastwards at five dgrees per day. ESA continues to receive signals from the satellite at the Fucino ground station (Italy) during a portion of each revolution as the solar array receives the sun. Fucino also continues to transmit straems of commands, designed to enable the batteries to again receive power and hence become charged. This is seen to be the key to performing a recovery. To this end, ESA has also sought assistance from the network of the US Space Command in Massachusetts. NASA has also agreed to assisit with their Deep Space Network and, after having obtained the required clearances, its Robledo station near Madrid will shortly be put into operation to transmit commands at high power to Olympus. The recovery action itself, will be led by a Chief of Operations in ESA's operations centre ESOC in Darmstadt (Germany). He will work in direct conjunction with a team from British Aerospace, the company which headed the industrial consortium that developed Olympus. All teams heve been set up and joint activities are now running. The first task is to confirm that Olympus is indeed recoverable and this should be known by next week. The second and parallel activity is to determine the detailed operational procedures which will bring the spacecraft back to normal operation, if this is at all possible. The Director General of ESA has instructed a Board under the chairmanship of Professor Massimo Trella, Inspector General of ESA, to conduct the enquiry into the incident and to determine the technical or operational anomalies which led to the loss of spacecraft control. "One has to realize that the situation is extremly serious. There is very little chance of recovery unless we can get the crucial commands into the satellite to enable the batteries to start accumulating charge again", said Rene Collette, ESA's Director of Telecommunications Programmes. ------------------------------ End of SPACE Digest V13 #722 *******************