Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 05:10:41 From: Space Digest maintainer Reply-To: Space-request@isu.isunet.edu Subject: Space Digest V15 #382 To: Space Digest Readers Precedence: bulk Space Digest Thu, 5 Nov 92 Volume 15 : Issue 382 Today's Topics: NASA Coverup Welcome to the Space Digest!! Please send your messages to "space@isu.isunet.edu", and (un)subscription requests of the form "Subscribe Space " to one of these addresses: listserv@uga (BITNET), rice::boyle (SPAN/NSInet), utadnx::utspan::rice::boyle (THENET), or space-REQUEST@isu.isunet.edu (Internet). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 00:29:05 GMT From: "Carlos G. Niederstrasser" Subject: NASA Coverup Newsgroups: sci.space In article <4586@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us> snarfy@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us writes: > > > Well , it sounds like the willingness to cling to some kind of la-la > land belief that our government wouldn't lie to us about the moon > landings won't just melt in the face of straightforward ,elementary > mathematics ,and piles of circumstantial evidence. I guess I'll just have > to use even bigger piles of circumstantial evidence and MORE math. Here > goes: > [stuff about astros not moving as much as 1/6 g might have permitted] I just find it hard to believe, that a cover up that was so good as to fool _all_ the media could have been carried out. But regardless of this, consider the very good quality pictures we got back from the moon... Isn't it kind of weird, that although the government was able to provide great realistic pictures, they would not spend the extra bucks for some real low g effects? The movie _2001_ had some pretty realistic 0g, but the U.S. government could not afford it for a massive cover up ?!?! > During Apollo 17 , astronauts Cernan and Scmitt began their first > assignment by deploying and loading the Rover . Cernan apparently became > quite excited and his Capsule Communicator , astronaut Parker warned him > that his metabolic rate was going up. That meant that he was using more > oxygen. Cernan replied that he never felt calmer in his life and > indicated to Parker that he would take it easy . He mentioned to Parker > that he thought that it was due to getting accustomed to handling himself > in "zero g". > > Parker, an astronomer, then stated that he thought Cernan was working at > 1/6 gravity. Cernan's reply was "Yes. You know where we are....whatever." > This remark suggests that Cernan wanted to avoid the discussion. Perhaps > Parker was not aware of the high gravity situation and asked an > embarrassing question. > All that you needed to avoid this problem was some quick editing! Made for TV movies are better at catching dumb errors like these! In addition there is also the questions: - Why has noone in _authority_ ever spilled his beans - You think the gov can trust all of Congress (and its staffers) to keep quiet? - If Congress didn't know about the cover up where did the $$$ go? - Soviets would have made _VERY_ sure the whole world new about the fake, after all they could easily have told if transmissions were comming from the moon! _ You really think that Nixon thought this was so important as to go through a whole other cover up :) -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- | Carlos G. Niederstrasser | It is difficult to say what | | Princeton Planetary Society | is impossible; for the dream of | | | yesterday, is the hope of today | ------------------------------ id AA11416; Thu, 5 Nov 92 05:03:15 EST Received: from crabapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu by VACATION.VENARI.CS.CMU.EDU id aa14127; 5 Nov 92 4:50:49 EST To: bb-sci-space@CRABAPPLE.SRV.CS.CMU.EDU Newsgroups: sci.space Path: crabapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!rochester!cornell!batcomputer!caen!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!yale.edu!jvnc.net!princeton!palette.Princeton.EDU!carlosn From: "Carlos G. Niederstrasser" Subject: Re: Man in space ... Message-Id: <1992Nov5.001431.27394@Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: USENET News System Nntp-Posting-Host: palette.princeton.edu Organization: Princeton University References: <720796989snx@osea.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 00:14:31 GMT Lines: 30 Source-Info: Sender is really news@CRABAPPLE.SRV.CS.CMU.EDU Source-Info: Sender is really isu@VACATION.VENARI.CS.CMU.EDU In article <720796989snx@osea.demon.co.uk> andy@osea.demon.co.uk (Andrew Haveland-Robinson) writes: > > > > What will happen if the space suite of an austronaut gets ripped in space ? > > > > Some of us recon that he will explode while others that he will end up > >with lots of bruises!!. One thing that all of us agree, is that it is not > >going to be a very healthy activity. > > Well Nick, my feeling is that he would nearly explode. A fit person can > exert a pressure of about 2 psi. With the lungs at 15 psi and outside zero > there would be some nasty ruptures if he couldn't exhale quickly enough. > (The valves in the windpipe may lock, denying him the choice). > > His eyes would almost certainly pop out, and I should think the main cause > of death would be an instant and massive stroke. Bit depressing really... ^^^^^^^ Although I cannot remember where I got this from, right after the release of Total Recall, there were a lot of complains from the science/space oriented people saying that the effects shown there would not even happen in a pure vaccum. I think the article followed up with the fact that someone completely exposed to vaccum could survive up to two minutes, although not necesarily concious. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- | Carlos G. Niederstrasser | It is difficult to say what | | Princeton Planetary Society | is impossible; for the dream of | | | yesterday, is the hope of today | ------------------------------ End of Space Digest Volume 15 : Issue 382 ------------------------------