Date: Thu, 14 Jan 93 05:11:26 From: Space Digest maintainer Reply-To: Space-request@isu.isunet.edu Subject: Space Digest V16 #046 To: Space Digest Readers Precedence: bulk Space Digest Thu, 14 Jan 93 Volume 16 : Issue 046 Today's Topics: Antiproton efficiency (was Re: *** BUSSARD RAMSCOOP ***) Ariane Launch Record (1979 to 1992) averting doom (2 msgs) DC-1 and the $23M NASA Toilet (2 msgs) DCX Testing Galileo Stuck Ribs / Remote Manipulator? (4 msgs) Gas Guns at MAKING ORBIT (was Re: Railgun in Southwest US) How much? (was Re: Moon Dust Sold) (2 msgs) NASA Graduate Student Summer Program needed: a real live space helmet Shuttle safety margins Supporting private space activities Welcome to the Space Digest!! Please send your messages to "space@isu.isunet.edu", and (un)subscription requests of the form "Subscribe Space " to one of these addresses: listserv@uga (BITNET), rice::boyle (SPAN/NSInet), utadnx::utspan::rice::boyle (THENET), or space-REQUEST@isu.isunet.edu (Internet). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 13 Jan 93 22:33:10 GMT From: Steinn Sigurdsson Subject: Antiproton efficiency (was Re: *** BUSSARD RAMSCOOP ***) Newsgroups: sci.space In article gnb@duke.bby.com.au (Gregory N. Bond) writes: In article <1993Jan11.194531.1@fnalf.fnal.gov> higgins@fnalf.fnal.gov (Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey) writes: As Jon pointed out, you gotta conserve baryon number by all known processes for creating antimatter I should note that strictly speaking reprocessing through a Hawking black hole is conjectured to violate baryon number conservation maximally. However, that is probably not a feasible medium term technology... What is baryon number? I assume this means that p-bar creation processes also creat protons, so you spend 2mc^2 and throw away the proton. Well, if you're careful you don't throw away the precious proton, you dump it somewhere convenient and extract as much of the energy back as you can, you should be able to recover at least 0.1mc^2 * Steinn Sigurdsson Lick Observatory * * steinly@lick.ucsc.edu "standard disclaimer" * * The laws of gravity are very,very strict * * And you're just bending them for your own benefit - B.B. 1988* ------------------------------ Date: 14 Jan 93 10:01:15 +1030 From: etssp@levels.unisa.edu.au Subject: Ariane Launch Record (1979 to 1992) Newsgroups: sci.space ARIANE LAUNCH RECORD (V1 to V48) V Date Vehicle Payload -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 24 Dec 79 1-01 CAT (monitoring) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2* 23 May 80 1-02 CAT, Firewheel, Amsat -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 19 Jun 81 1-03 CAT, Apple, Meteosat 4 20 Dec 81 1-04 Marecs A (Marecs 1) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5* 10 Sep 82 1-05 Marecs B -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6 16 Jun 83 1-06 ECS-1, Oscar 10 7 19 Oct 83 1-07 Intelsat V-F7 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8 5 Mar 84 1-08 Intelsat V-F8 9 22 May 84 1-09 Spacenet 1 10 4 Aug 84 3-01 ECS-2, Telecom 1A 11 10 Nov 84 3-02 Spacenet 2, Marecs C (Marecs 2) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12 8 Feb 85 3-03 Arabsat 1A, Brasilsat S1 13 8 May 85 3-04 GStar 1, Telecom 1B 14 2 Jul 85 1-10 Giotto 15* 12 Sep 85 3-05 Spacenet 3, ECS-3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16 22 Feb 86 1-11 Spot 1, Viking 17 28 Mar 86 3-06 GStar 2, Brasilsat S2 18* 31 May 86 2-01 Intelsat V-F14 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19 16 Sep 87 3-07 Aussat K3, ECS-4 20 21 Nov 87 2-02 TV-Sat 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21 11 Mar 88 3-08 Spacenet 3R/Geostar R01, Telecom 1C 23 17 May 88 2-03 Intelsat V-F13 22 15 Jun 88 44LP-01 Meteosat P2, PanAmSat 1, Amsat 3C 24 21 Jul 88 3-09 ECS-5, Insat 1C 25 8 Sep 88 3-10 GStar 3/Geostar R02, SBS-5 26 28 Oct 88 2-04 TDF-1 27 11 Dec 88 44LP-02 Skynet 4B, Astra 1A -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28 27 Jan 89 2-05 Intelsat V-F15 29 6 Mar 89 44LP-03 JC Sat-1, MOP-1 (Meteosat 4) 30 2 Apr 89 2-06 Tele-X 31 5 Jun 89 44L-01 Superbird 1, DFS-1 32 12 Jul 89 3-11 Olympus 33 8 Aug 89 44LP-04 TV-Sat 2, Hipparcos 34 27 Oct 89 44L-02 Intelsat VI-F2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 35 22 Jan 90 40-01 Spot 2, Uosat 2/3, Pacsat, Dove, Webersat, Lusat 36* 22 Feb 90 44L-03 Superbird B, BS-2X 37 24 Jul 90 44L-04 TDF-2, DFS-2 38 30 Aug 90 44LP-05 Eutelsat II-F1, Skynet 4C 39 12 Oct 90 44L-05 SBS-6, Galaxy 6 40 20 Nov 90 42P-01 Satcom C1, GStar 4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 41 15 Jan 91 44L-06 Eutelsat II-F2, Italsat 1 42 2 Mar 91 44LP-06 Astra 1B, MOP-2 43 4 Apr 91 44P-01 Anik E2 44 17 Jul 91 40-02 ERS-1, Datasat X, Tubsat, Uosat F, SARA 45 14 Aug 91 44L-07 Intelsat VI-F5 46 26 Sep 91 44P-02 Anik E1 47 29 Oct 91 44L-08 Intelsat VI-F1 48 16 Dec 91 44L-09 Telecom 2A, Inmarsat II-F3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- * Launch failure ARIANE LAUNCH RECORD (V49 to V55) V Date Vehicle Payload -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 49 27 Feb 92 44L-10 Superbird-B1, Arabsat-1C 50 15 Apr 92 44L-11 Telecom 2B, Inmarsat II-F4 51 9 Jul 92 44L-12 Eutelsat II-F4, Insat 2A 52 10 Aug 92 42P-02 Topex-Poseidon, Kitsat-A, S80/T 53 10 Sep 92 44LP-07 Hispasat 1A, Satcom C4 54 28 Oct 92 42P-03 Galaxy VII 55 1 Dec 92 42P-04 Superbird A -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Steven S. Pietrobon, Australian Space Centre for Signal Processing Signal Processing Research Institute, University of South Australia The Levels, SA 5095, Australia. steven@spri.levels.unisa.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 22:50:15 GMT From: "Patricia C. Vener-Saavedra" Subject: averting doom Newsgroups: sci.astro,sci.space,sci.physics,sci.environment Hi there. As I recall, in about a billion years the sun will have about twice the luminosity it presently has. The average surface of Earth will be about 100 degrees C. Some lakes and rivers will have begun to boil. It will not be pleasant for homo sapiens.:-) PCVS -- ********************************************************************* vener@stsci.edu | "I'm not bad, I'm just drawn this way." | -- Jessica Rabbit ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: 13 Jan 1993 23:06:53 GMT From: Nobody of Importance Subject: averting doom Newsgroups: sci.astro,sci.space,sci.physics,sci.environment In article <1993Jan13.225015.24673@stsci.edu> vener@stsci.edu (Patricia C. Vener-Saavedra) writes: ]Hi there. As I recall, in about a billion years the sun will have ]about twice the luminosity it presently has. The average surface of ]Earth will be about 100 degrees C. Some lakes and rivers will have ]begun to boil. It will not be pleasant for homo sapiens.:-) Who cares? By that time homo sapiens will be either: a)extinct or b)spread amongst the stars OR c)fireproof ;) ]PCVS Hit 'n' now to avoid an obnoxious sig thingie. 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Flame away, I don't bleedin' care... ------------------------------ Date: 13 Jan 93 23:51:34 GMT From: Henry Spencer Subject: DC-1 and the $23M NASA Toilet Newsgroups: sci.space In article bern@Uni-Trier.DE (Jochen Bern) writes: >>BTW, does anyone have the text of the toilet instructions on _2001_? ... > >... The REALLY funny Thing about it is that the 2001 >Starship had artificial Gravity in at least a Part of the Ship; Every >Idiot would have chosen to put into that Area. (a) There was no starship in 2001. (b) The toilet (and instructions) were in the Earth-Moon shuttle, not the Discovery. -- "God willing... we shall return." | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology -Gene Cernan, the Moon, Dec 1972 | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry ------------------------------ Date: 13 Jan 93 22:22:26 GMT From: Jochen Bern Subject: DC-1 and the $23M NASA Toilet Newsgroups: sci.space In erd@kumiss.cmhnet.org (Ethan Dicks) writes: >BTW, does anyone have the text of the toilet instructions on _2001_? I >recall that a still was reproduced in the book of the movie. It has been somewhere in a XYZmovieABC FAQ List. I didn't read it carefully since the List stated that it was the one and only intended Joke in the Movie, it was giving Advices on how to use a Dozen Levers and Switches to wash your Hands. The REALLY funny Thing about it is that the 2001 Starship had artificial Gravity in at least a Part of the Ship; Every Idiot would have chosen to put into that Area. Hope that helps, J. Bern -- / \ I hate NN rejecting .sigs >4 lines. Even though *I* set up this one. /\ / J. \ EMail: bern@[TI.]Uni-Trier.DE / ham: DD0KZ / More Infos on me from / \ \Bern/ X.400 Mail: S=BERN;P=Uni-Trier;A=dbp;C=de / X.400 Directory, see \ / \ / Zurmaiener Str. 98-100, D-W-5500 Trier / X.29 # 45050230303. \/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 16:28:06 GMT From: Rich Kolker Subject: DCX Testing Newsgroups: sci.space In article <1993Jan11.135607.6316@iti.org> aws@iti.org (Allen W. Sherzer) writes: >As promised, here is some data on the DC-X test program. About nine >test flights are planned. > >1. Flight series 1 will test: > * Blended control (automatic flight with ground override) > * Vertical landing and ground effects > * Systems performance > * Qmax: ~10 PSF > * Altitude: ~600 feet AGL > >2. Series 2: > * Aero performance verification > - Power-On drag > * Expand performance envelope > * RTLS demonstration > * Qmax: ~60 PSF > * Altitude: ~5,000 feet AGL > >3. Series 3: > * Rotation maneuver to validate aero model > * Increasing Q at rotation > * Reacquisition of GPS > * Propelland management > * Qrot: ~20-95 PSF > * Altitude: 20,000 feet AGL > There are four ways they are looking at to do the rotation form nose-first to tail first. They are: diving for momentum then using the "flaps" to pull up to vertical, then catch it with the engines (this was referred to as the "death swoop"), taking it to a point when the natural "bottom heaviness" of the DC rotates it, and catching it with the engines, using the engines to drive it around (with flap and RCS help I would guess), and finally, a drogue chute. All are in the current plans for DC-X testing. ++rich ------------------------------------------------------------------- rich kolker rkolker@nuchat.sccsi.com < Do Not Write In This Space> -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 13 Jan 93 21:14:29 GMT From: Robert Hearn Subject: Galileo Stuck Ribs / Remote Manipulator? Newsgroups: sci.space In article <1993Jan13.064524.13581@mr.med.ge.com>, hinz@picard.med.ge.com (David Hinz (hinz@picard.med.ge.com)) wrote: > > > A co-worker of mine brought up an interesting question about the > service problems such as we are seeing with Galileo. How feasable > would it be to incorporate a robotic arm manipulator into these designs, > articulated so that it could reach everything on the probe/satellite? > > This could be done with, perhaps, a variety of tooling, an articulated arm, > and a track around the device so it could reach wherever it needs to go, > such as, for instance, a stuck antenna rib. > > Obviously, this would have a bit of weight to it, but I would think the cost > would be fairly reasonable compared to lost productivity & usability. If > you could just work the remote manipulator and fix the problem, that would > beat weeks/months of hammering or whatever. > > What besides weight & cost would prohibit this? How much use would something > like this get, and would it be worth it? > > -- > > Dave Hinz - Opinions expressed are mine, not my employer's. Obviously. Or maybe a little repair robot that can wander around to wherever it's needed. Give it magnetic feet or something to grip onto everywhere. Make it small and cheap; send two or three along. Technology should be there for something like this, at a minimal cost. Of course, if there's a design problem in the robotic arm / repair robot that doesn't manifest itself until it's in space, you're SOL anyway, even with spares... ------------------------------ Date: 13 Jan 93 21:49:40 GMT From: Henry Spencer Subject: Galileo Stuck Ribs / Remote Manipulator? Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.astro,alt.sci.planetary In article <1993Jan13.064524.13581@mr.med.ge.com> hinz@picard.med.ge.com (David Hinz (hinz@picard.med.ge.com)) writes: >... How feasable >would it be to incorporate a robotic arm manipulator into these designs, >articulated so that it could reach everything on the probe/satellite? Not very. Apart from it being heavy and complicated -- for one thing, it needs to be *long* to reach things that are out on booms -- and useless in fixing most of the likely malfunctions, it is well beyond the state of the art in space-rated robotic hardware. Bear in mind that the Galileo malfunction is of a fairly unusual type. Most failures are subtle things ailing in the innards of the boxes. -- "God willing... we shall return." | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology -Gene Cernan, the Moon, Dec 1972 | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry ------------------------------ Date: 13 Jan 93 20:29:11 GMT From: "Don M. Gibson" Subject: Galileo Stuck Ribs / Remote Manipulator? Newsgroups: sci.space In article 13581@mr.med.ge.com, hinz@picard.med.ge.com (David Hinz (hinz@picard.med.ge.com)) writes: > >A co-worker of mine brought up an interesting question about the >service problems such as we are seeing with Galileo. How feasable >would it be to incorporate a robotic arm manipulator into these designs, >articulated so that it could reach everything on the probe/satellite? > >This could be done with, perhaps, a variety of tooling, an articulated arm, >and a track around the device so it could reach wherever it needs to go, >such as, for instance, a stuck antenna rib. > >Obviously, this would have a bit of weight to it, but I would think the cost >would be fairly reasonable compared to lost productivity & usability. If >you could just work the remote manipulator and fix the problem, that would >beat weeks/months of hammering or whatever. > >What besides weight & cost would prohibit this? How much use would something >like this get, and would it be worth it? > a "repair arm" would probably only be able to help with deployment failures: antenna (most craft used fixed anyway), lens covers, and booms. These failures are very rare. It would not be of much help on more common failures like electrical components, actuators, sensors, and thrusters. in short, a "repair arm" doesn't help much with providing a robust design. --Don ------------------------------ Date: 13 Jan 93 23:26:03 GMT From: "Robert F. Casey" Subject: Galileo Stuck Ribs / Remote Manipulator? Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.astro,alt.sci.planetary In article <1993Jan13.064524.13581@mr.med.ge.com> hinz@picard.med.ge.com (David Hinz (hinz@picard.med.ge.com)) writes: > How feasable >would it be to incorporate a robotic arm manipulator into these designs, >articulated so that it could reach everything on the probe/satellite? > >This could be done with, perhaps, a variety of tooling, an articulated arm, >and a track around the device so it could reach wherever it needs to go, >such as, for instance, a stuck antenna rib. Probably easier and better to just do a better antenna deployment design, maybe with a reversable motor and/or a motor with more strength. Or maybe just more "grease" on the thing that holds the ribs. Or a backup deployment system, like explosive bolts or something? And do a more robust design on anything else mechanical that might get stuck. ------------------------------ Date: 13 Jan 93 12:04:22 GMT From: Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey Subject: Gas Guns at MAKING ORBIT (was Re: Railgun in Southwest US) Newsgroups: sci.space In article <1j1mahINN6rd@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>, Chris Johnson writes: > There's a good article (replete with pictures) in the August 10, 1992 > issue of Aviation Week entitled "World's Largest Light Gas Gun Nears > Completion at Livermore." In addition, that article refers to another > article on the same subject in their July 23, 1990 issue. > > Evidently, it's a two stage light gas gun, 425 ft. long, built by > Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory for $4 million over the last > three years. I note that you can meet the boss of this project (as well as other interesting characters) by attending the "Making Orbit" conference. See today's posting by Stewart Cobb. Bill Higgins | Sign in window of Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory | Alice's bookstore: Bitnet: HIGGINS@FNAL.BITNET | "EVER READ BANNED BOOKS? Internet: HIGGINS@FNAL.FNAL.GOV | YOU SHOULD!" SPAN/Hepnet: 43011::HIGGINS | Gee, I hope it doesn't become | *compulsory*. ------------------------------ Date: 13 Jan 93 21:21:55 GMT From: Ron Baalke Subject: How much? (was Re: Moon Dust Sold) Newsgroups: sci.space In article <1993Jan13.134812.1@fnala.fnal.gov>, higgins@fnala.fnal.gov (Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey) writes... >In article <12JAN199318023933@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov>, baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov (Ron Baalke) writes: >> The Moon dust that was up for auction yesterday was sold for $42,500. When >> you include the 10% extra that goes to the auction house, that brings the >> total price up to $46,750. > >I looked at earlier postings, but couldn't find how many grams of Moon >dust are in the sample. Anybody know? The weight was never specified, and it would be hard to determine since the Moon dust is on 2 inch piece of tape. I have a photo of it, and just by eyeballing it I'd say there is less than a gram there. ___ _____ ___ /_ /| /____/ \ /_ /| Ron Baalke | baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov | | | | __ \ /| | | | Jet Propulsion Lab | ___| | | | |__) |/ | | |__ M/S 525-3684 Telos | Choose a job you love, and /___| | | | ___/ | |/__ /| Pasadena, CA 91109 | you'll never have to work |_____|/ |_|/ |_____|/ | a day in your life. ------------------------------ Date: 13 Jan 93 11:59:44 GMT From: Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey Subject: How much? (was Re: Moon Dust Sold) Newsgroups: sci.space In article <13JAN199321204319@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov>, baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov (Ron Baalke) writes: > In article <1993Jan13.134812.1@fnala.fnal.gov>, higgins@fnala.fnal.gov (Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey) writes... >>In article <12JAN199318023933@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov>, baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov (Ron Baalke) writes: >>> The Moon dust that was up for auction yesterday was sold for $42,500. When >>> you include the 10% extra that goes to the auction house, that brings the >>> total price up to $46,750. >> >>I looked at earlier postings, but couldn't find how many grams of Moon >>dust are in the sample. Anybody know? > > The weight was never specified, and it would be hard to determine since the > Moon dust is on 2 inch piece of tape. I have a photo of it, and just by > eyeballing it I'd say there is less than a gram there. Okay, then, assuming it's 1 gram, it cost $46,750,000 per kilogram, or $21,201,814.06 per pound. Almost as much as the cost of launching it on the Shuttle (just kidding, don't want to start another flame!). I can't find the article with results of the (cost of Apollo)/(mass of rocks returned) calculation. How does this compare? I would guess it gives somewhere around $80M/lb. Of course, the rarity of privately owned lunar samples must drive up the market price a bit.... -- O~~* /_) ' / / /_/ ' , , ' ,_ _ \|/ - ~ -~~~~~~~~~~~/_) / / / / / / (_) (_) / / / _\~~~~~~~~~~~zap! / \ (_) (_) / | \ | | Bill Higgins Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory \ / Bitnet: HIGGINS@FNAL.BITNET - - Internet: HIGGINS@FNAL.FNAL.GOV ~ SPAN/Hepnet: 43011::HIGGINS ------------------------------ Date: 13 Jan 93 22:47:27 GMT From: Ken Sheppardson Subject: NASA Graduate Student Summer Program Newsgroups: sci.space Regarding NASA contacts for info on the GSRP program, I'm not sure what number you're calling, but I do seem to remember seeing some GSRP info that gives a contact in Code S at NASA HQ. Most, if not all, of Code S has moved over to the new HQ building and have new numbers. I believe the HQ operator is (202) 358-0000. They should be able to direct your call to the proper person. --- Ken Sheppardson kcs@freedom.larc.nasa.gov Space Station Advanced Programs Phone: (804) 864-7544 NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton VA Fax: (804) 864-1975 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 20:13:46 GMT From: rabjab Subject: needed: a real live space helmet Newsgroups: sci.space In article <1993Jan13.192719.23340@mksol.dseg.ti.com> pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com (Dillon Pyron) writes: >About the space cadet academy. Get into the USAFA, spend four years for your >half-track, spend two more going through high performance flight training, four >more proving you're one of the best, two to four years at Edwards and maybe >you'll be an astronaut. But more than likely, you'll get a street named for >you at some air base. Posthumously? :-(. -rabjab ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jan 93 00:57:14 EST From: John Roberts Subject: Shuttle safety margins This is in part a reply to a comment by Pat several weeks ago. Pat was concerned by mechanical safety margins, and felt that the Shuttle operates within 5% of destruction for its major mechanical and structural systems. It's difficult to find anything authoritative on this subject, but there was mention of one safety factor in the STS-54 post-flight press conference Wednesday morning. It turns out that with the measured wind patterns, if one of the SSMEs had failed (it didn't) right when the Shuttle was passing Mach 1.55, three of the struts in the structure would have had a safety factor of 1.36 (36%), while the target safety factor under those conditions is a minimum of 1.4 (40%). Analysis of the situation and of the particular orbiter indicated that this safety factor was acceptable, so permission was granted to proceed with the launch. It should be noted that under normal flight conditions (all three engines working, which was the case) the safety factor would be greater. One of the questions during the press conference was "what if something additional had happened, and the stress was increased another 36%, so that zero safety margin was passed?". The spokesman (Brewster Shaw, Deputy Director of the Space Shuttle Program) replied that the safety margin stated is not to the point of destruction - you'd get local yielding, and the load would be redistributed to the surrounding members. (Of course, orbiter repairs would be needed afterward.) John Roberts roberts@cmr.ncsl.nist.gov ------------------------------ Date: 13 Jan 93 21:43:13 GMT From: Henry Spencer Subject: Supporting private space activities Newsgroups: sci.space In article <1993Jan10.151446.20003@r-node.pci.on.ca> marc@r-node.pci.on.ca (Marc G Fournier) writes: >I'm confused. Is the US the only country that has the 'environment' to >set up a launch site? My understanding about why it is all done from Florida >is that it has to do with weather and easy of escaping Earth's atmosphere (lower >gravity?) You want to be as close to the equator as possible to take maximum advantage of Earth's spin. If you're launching rockets that fall apart (e.g. they have multiple stages), you want to have lots of water downrange. Those were the only really technical reasons for Florida (the weather is lousy). There's no fundamental problem with putting a launch site elsewhere -- the Aussies are trying to do one at Cape York -- but the US is the single biggest customer and is a prime supplier of bits and pieces even for other people's hardware. The US is also just about the only country that has a large space industry which is not completely a creature of the government. -- "God willing... we shall return." | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology -Gene Cernan, the Moon, Dec 1972 | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry ------------------------------ End of Space Digest Volume 16 : Issue 046 ------------------------------