Date: Thu, 11 Feb 93 09:56:30 From: Space Digest maintainer Reply-To: Space-request@isu.isunet.edu Subject: Space Digest V16 #141 To: Space Digest Readers Precedence: bulk Space Digest Thu, 11 Feb 93 Volume 16 : Issue 141 Today's Topics: Astronaut Educational Req. (was An 'agitator' replies...) Cooling re-entry vehicles. engine cycles (was Re: National Launch System) IRAS - 10 Years Ago leading-edge anonymity Meteor Riding/Netting (lets go fishing) Mir Mirror Moscow Science Support Foundation Polar Orbit, Alaska+ Precursors to SSF Precursors to SSF/ST: TNG Data Ports. Reasons for SS(was Re: Precursors to Fred (was Re: Sabatier Reactors.)) Solar Mirror Solar sail So what's happened to Henry Spencer? Space Station Freedom Media Handbook - 16/18 Today in 1986-Remember the Challenger Units and Star Trek Wanted- Mars Gif Welcome to the Space Digest!! Please send your messages to "space@isu.isunet.edu", and (un)subscription requests of the form "Subscribe Space " to one of these addresses: listserv@uga (BITNET), rice::boyle (SPAN/NSInet), utadnx::utspan::rice::boyle (THENET), or space-REQUEST@isu.isunet.edu (Internet). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1993 02:58:56 GMT From: gawne@stsci.edu Subject: Astronaut Educational Req. (was An 'agitator' replies...) Newsgroups: sci.space In article , ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) continues wrangling with Doug Mohney. Along the way Ed writes: > I guess I missed all the money-making processes that have come out > of NASA. I also missed all those NASA mission specialists writing > papers. They spend their time in space prepping satellites or > performing other people's experiments -- jobs that would be done > by technicians with a bachelor's or associate's degree on Earth. > NASA hires PhDs for these jobs because a) they get so many applicants, > they have to cut down the numbers somehow, and b) it fits the superhero > image of the astronaut NASA has constructed. [Doug's comments deleted for brevity.] > "Trained monkey" is principle investigator's slang for astronaut! While I'm inclined to agree that making a PhD an effective requirement (they really only *require* a Bachelors degree, they just don't select many non-PhD's) for astronaut candidacy is silly, I'll allow that at least in the case of Storey Musgrave - a truly talented generalist with five (count em, 5) graduate degrees including an MD, the educational requirements have paid off. I am VERY pleased that he is the Payload Commander for the upcoming HST refurbishment mission. I'll hasten to add that its not just Storey's well educated background that comes into play here. He's also a veteran of lots of (what 3, 4??) Shuttle flights and has spent thousands of hours in the pool (neutral bouyancy tank) learning his craft. Still, NASA is hardly the only institution guilty of using PhD's for things that could be done by good High School graduates. Artificially inflated educational requirements have been used as a means of enhancing institutional prestige for a long time. The flip side of this problem is that the 5 years (at least) that a PhD spends in the Astronaut office are lost as far as their research careers go. And lest ye think that they come back to academia with additional prestige, most of what they gain is the animosity of their colleagues who resent their fame. -Bill Gawne, Space Telescope Science Institute ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1993 16:04:08 GMT From: Nick Haines Subject: Cooling re-entry vehicles. Newsgroups: sci.space In article ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes: Unfortunately, pure ice is kind of brittle. If chunks start coming off during reentry, you're history. During World War II, the US Navy considered a scheme to build battleships out of ice. They proposed lacing the ice with sawdust to increase its strength. The British navy also (I believe the original idea was that of a British engineer). Works really well, too. The main advantage from a navy's point of view is not strength (although ice+sawdust _is_ a surprisingly strong and not particularly brittle material) but another property of ice. You can blow many truck-sized holes in an ice aircraft-carrier, and it won't sink. (n.b. the project was for carriers and other large (or extremely large) vessels; don't think it was ever mooted for battleships). I wouldn't suggest it as a skin heatshield, though. Maybe as an layer just inside your titanium skin; I would expect it to melt/sublime in layers that can then be circulated or dumped. Still, seems a waste to carry all that water into orbit and then just throw it away. Nick Haines nickh@cmu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1993 09:55:11 GMT From: Dave Michelson Subject: engine cycles (was Re: National Launch System) Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.space.shuttle In article henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes: >(A thread that started in sci.space.shuttle, cross-posted to sci.space >because of more general interest.) > >The key difference between the various cycles is: what powers the pumps? >It's always a gas turbine of some kind, since they need lots of power with >little weight, but there is considerable variation in where the gas comes >from and where it goes afterwards... > [much talk about gas generator cycle and staged combustion cycle engines] Just for interest, some texts refer to these as "open-cycle" and "closed-cycle" engines, respectively... (which kind of makes sense!) == And, on a related subject, in case anyone is interested in the difference between hydrazine, monomethylhydrazine, and unsymmetrical dimethylhydrazine... H H CH3 H CH3 H | | | | | | N-----N N-----N N-----N | | | | | | H H H H CH3 H ...now you know! Now what does N2O4 look like? :-) --- Dave Michelson University of British Columbia davem@ee.ubc.ca Antenna Laboratory ------------------------------ Date: 5 Feb 93 14:40:13 GMT From: Jonathan McDowell Subject: IRAS - 10 Years Ago Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.astro,alt.sci.planetary > Gerry Santoro - CAC/PSU writes: > >>W/r the anniversery of IRAS ...... > >>Does anyone else remember the comet IRAS-Aracki-Alcock? (sp?) I remember it! We'd been trying to see it for several days, but East Anglia remained cloudy. It miraculously cleared one evening, on a date very close to its perigee, and I was completely flabbergasted to see this ghostly second moon in the sky. Huge! Naked-eye! (albeit just). Although the surface brightess was pretty low, it remains the most impressive comet I've seen. - Jonathan McDowell ------------------------------ Date: 5 Feb 1993 14:34:45 GMT From: David Toland Subject: leading-edge anonymity Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.astro,alt.privacy an8785@anon.penet.fi (Tesuji) writes: >X-Anon-To:sci.space,sci.astro,alt.privacy > >I believe that fast adapters are accepting >anonymous postings as the next step in personal >freedom in communication. For those out there who are ranting against anonymous postings in general, please realize that there are *legitimate* reasons for anonymous postings. For instance, there are newsgroups that deal with sensitive personal issues, for which anonymity is a requirement in order not to divulge confidences or at least to allow someone to open up who could not otherwise do so. It also may be necessary in some instances for someone to post an unpopular opinion anonymously in order to be safe (including that person's family!) from harassment, which can at times assume dangerous proportion. I do *not* think that the person who posted the alleged Challenger transcript falls into these categories, however. What was posted was more than opinion, it was an assertion of facts without any means of verification. It was furthermore in very poor taste, and bordered on libelous. Even if true (which I *sincerely* doubt), it certainly would be an invasion of privacy. Especially in light of the poster's choice to submit this anonymously, I don't think he really believes it is credible either - he expected to be censured (sic) if his identity were known. In short, it was sensationalist trash, that half of the checkout line rags would even probably have rejected as below *their* standards. But anonymity in posting is really a much broader issue, which I think has gotten a bum rap here. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- All opinions are MINE MINE MINE, and not necessarily anyone else's. det@phlan.sw.stratus.com | "Laddie, you'll be needin' something to wash | that doon with." ------------------------------ Date: 5 Feb 1993 04:36:49 GMT From: "Earl A. Hubbell" Subject: Meteor Riding/Netting (lets go fishing) Newsgroups: sci.space jbh55289@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Josh Hopkins) writes: >nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu writes: >Take a look at your favorite video of high performance fighters going fast. >Pick one that shows them going as fast as possible at low altitude so you get >the full effect. Now imagine they're battleships going that fast. Now imagine >you're in a jet heading straight at them at full speed. Now speed up everybody >by about 100 times. Now picture yourself throwing a net in front of one of the >hypersonic battleships. That's what you're talking about. >I hesitiate to say it's impossible to lasso a moving asteroid but it sure makes >chemical propulstion look safe and comfortable. Given the number of easier >methods of propulsion I think we can safely assume asteroids won't be used for >delta V in such a direct manner. Reaction mass. Anything that avoids the exponentials inherent in the 'rocket equation' has a big theoretical advantage. Engineering...well, there's at least one paper out there...but you are right in your analogy - it doesn't seem possible to get 10km/sec encounters to work, but 1km/sec delta-v changes seem feasible. >Josh Hopkins jbh55289@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu -- "Have you never wanted to look beyond the clouds and *earl@alumni.caltech.edu the stars? Or to know what causes the trees to bud, *Earl Hubbell or what changes a darkness into light? But if you *Opinions solely mine. talk like that, people call you crazy." --Frankenstein ------------------------------ Date: 5 Feb 93 11:00:58 GMT From: Ken Kobayashi Subject: Mir Mirror Newsgroups: sci.space faubert@mdavcr.mda.ca (David M. Faubert) writes: >Hi, >On the radio this morning I heard that the Russian mirror experiment could >be seen in the west from Vancouver, where I am. I went outside and, sure >enough, there was this extremelely bright light in the west. By extremely, >I mean around magnitude -5 I suppose. It was flickering slightly and it >was slightly yellow, which is what one would expect from a light outside >the atmosphere that low on the horizon. >Did anyone else see it? I would like to have some confirmation that the >thing I saw was the mirror and not something else like another UFO. I saw it too I think. I went out on the roof this morning after figuring out the time with TrakSat. I didn't see anything at first, then saw a brief flash (lasting about one second?) brighter than Vega but darker than Venus. About a minute later, around the highest point in the sky, it reappeared, but it was a steady light slightly brighter than Vega. No flickering. How bright is Mir usually in the sky? (I'd never seen it before) Was it just Mir I saw or was the first flash the mirror? Ken Kobayashi kkobayas&husc8.harvard.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1993 16:35:47 +0200 From: sergey@fnelan.msk.su Subject: Moscow Science Support Foundation Dear ISUers: I would like to continue to inform you about new possibilities for contacts with russian scientists and industry. Now I am in a working group for preparing a new organization called "Moscow Science Support Foundation". The initiative of this Foundation is growing from Moscow Government. It will be very powerful organization in Russia for establishing new level of international cooperation in science and industry community. It is possible to become a Founder of this Foundation not only for russian organizations and persons but also foreign ones. With pleasure, I have to honour of inviting any organization which is in ISU-net to join this prestigious Foundation and to become a Founder. I need to have previous interest for further information as soon as possible. Yours sincerely, Dr. Sergey Savastuk, (ISU`89 was in Strasbourg !!! ) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1993 02:31:07 GMT From: nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu Subject: Polar Orbit, Alaska+ Newsgroups: sci.space In article <1993Feb4.181658.28605@mksol.dseg.ti.com>, mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes: > In <1993Feb3.150311.1@acad3.alaska.edu> nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu writes: > >>In article <1993Feb3.175703.13093@mksol.dseg.ti.com>, mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes: >>> In <1993Feb2.235514.1@acad3.alaska.edu> nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu writes: >>> >>>>Why does the US launch polar orbit missions from Vandenburg? other than for >>>>military missions? I wonder is they know about Poker Flats here in Alaska >>>>which has many of the same benfits as Vandenburg (open spaces) but nicely is >>>>near the pole.. Actually more like near or at the Arctic Circle.. >>> >>> They launch from Vandenburg because the facilities exist, the weather >>> is nice and warm, and they have lots of open water to the south for >>> range safety purposes. Alaska is a bad choice for regular operations. >>> It's too cold for too big a part of the year. >>> >>> -- >>> "Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live >>> in the real world." -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Fred.McCall@dseg.ti.com - I don't speak for others and they don't speak for me. > >>Cold yes, but what is a major colst for rocket launches, is keeping the feul >>cold.. > > Note that this is only true for liquids, and some of them need it more > than others -- not sure I'd like the idea of gelled kerosine for my > fuel. Cold is, in general, probably not real good for things like > segmented solids. > >>Also the Fairbanks area can get upi to 90-100 F during the summer.. >>True it can get to -60 during sometimes in the winter.. > > Sounds great if you're only flying cryogenic fuels. ;-) > > -- > "Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live > in the real world." -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Fred.McCall@dseg.ti.com - I don't speak for others and they don't speak for me. Here is a semi-info post about Poker Flats. (I believe they use nike or atlas rockets to send suborbital and soon orbital packets into space.) #154 ACAD3A::FYSEIS Mon 25 Jan 1993 09:41:57 ( 14/ 722) From: C Rowe, UAGI Seismology Poker Flats is a region north of Fairbanks, just beyond Chatanika. The Geophysical Institute runs a rocket launch facility there, principally to support upper atmosphere, ionosphere, magnetospheric and aurora research (barium shots and the like). They send up fairly sizeable rockets, some three-stage jobs. I'm not particularly well versed in terms of the specifics, but you might try talking to Dan Osborne. His office # is 474-7107. Another person to try might be Roger Smith, at 474-7416. Roger is a professor of geophysics and is into aurora research; Dan is more involved with the operational end of things and might be more useful if those are the sorts of things you are wishing to know. Charlotte Rowe (Her address is FYSEIS@acad3.alaska.edu) Michael Adams Alias: Morgoth/Ghost Wheel nsmca@acad2.alaska.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1993 05:44:03 GMT From: Henry Spencer Subject: Precursors to SSF Newsgroups: sci.space In article steinly@topaz.ucsc.edu (Steinn Sigurdsson) writes: >... why not save the weight of paper and use a 9600b/fax >modem that reads straight to file? Cut out the dead tree portion >altogether. Because, despite what you hear from people like Go Corp., it's still a whole lot more convenient to carry a piece of paper around inside Spacelab (for example) than to lug a portable computer around. -- C++ is the best example of second-system| Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology effect since OS/360. | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry ------------------------------ Date: 5 Feb 93 11:49:50 GMT From: nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu Subject: Precursors to SSF/ST: TNG Data Ports. Newsgroups: sci.space In article , henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes: > In article steinly@topaz.ucsc.edu (Steinn Sigurdsson) writes: >>... why not save the weight of paper and use a 9600b/fax >>modem that reads straight to file? Cut out the dead tree portion >>altogether. > > Because, despite what you hear from people like Go Corp., it's still a > whole lot more convenient to carry a piece of paper around inside Spacelab > (for example) than to lug a portable computer around. > -- > C++ is the best example of second-system| Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology > effect since OS/360. | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry Why muist it be a portable computer? Why not a data port as in Star Trek the Next Generation.. I know it is nice to have a hard copy, but.. Why not make the technology and computer better and have a real AI or combined system... Kind of liek ST:TNG... Michael Adams Alias: Morgoth/Ghost Wheel nsmca@acad2.alaska.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1993 05:37:58 GMT From: Henry Spencer Subject: Reasons for SS(was Re: Precursors to Fred (was Re: Sabatier Reactors.)) Newsgroups: sci.space In article ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes: >>Microgravity materials science, currently the #2 >>justification for the station, has been waning in popularity since the >>ballyhoo days of the early Eighties. > >That is hardly surprising. You have two groups of researchers: Group >A, who try to make better materials in space, and Group B, who try to >prove that they can do better on Earth... Actually, you've also got Group C, who are sure it could be done better in space, but have given up and gone back to doing it on Earth. These are the folks who hoped NASA could deliver a hands-on manned microgravity lab (aka Space Station Freedom) in a reasonable length of time, with easy access and reasonable resources available... but have decided that it's not going to happen that way in their lifetimes. One big reason why microgravity materials work has been waning in popularity is that the prospect of being able to do experiments on sane budgets with sane lead times has waned, as has the prospect of getting professional scientists (who cannot be NASA astronauts -- there aren't enough hours in the day to be both) into space with some regularity. Note that, for all the press NASA gives to crystal-growing experiments, it wasn't until last year that a professional crystallographer (Larry DeLucas) managed to get aboard a shuttle mission. (And he was busier than a one-armed paperhanger, too: "...so many conditions that people expected would be right turned out to be off target...".) -- C++ is the best example of second-system| Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology effect since OS/360. | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry ------------------------------ Date: 5 Feb 93 07:06:55 From: Terence Chua Subject: Solar Mirror Newsgroups: sci.space What's the purpose behind this solar mirror that the Russians are putting up? Call it hysteria, but I have this vision of it being used to melt ice-caps... -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Terence Chua, Dept of Laws, Queen Mary College, University of London Snail Mail: 22 Courcy Road, London N8 0QH Telephone: (044)081-888-1210 E-Mail: T.Chua@qmw.ac.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "I am not a free man, I am a lawyer!" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 07:56:15 EST From: John Roberts Subject: Solar sail -From: ida@atomic (David Goldschmidt) -Subject: Re: Solar Sail/Parachute/Brake -Date: 30 Jan 93 02:23:57 GMT -Organization: Princeton University, Dept. of Computer Science - If you made a very light sail, (far beyond anything we can make today), and -make it reflective one side only, it will accelerate even in interstellar -space (the reflected light gives twice the pressure of the absorbed light). - Dave Patterson, guest on this account That would be nice, but I don't believe it works that way - if it did, then you could make a "perpetual motion machine" driven by the microwave background radiation. There are two important principles that have to be considered: 1) The thrust of a beam of light is equal to power / c only if it's a directed beam. If the light is coming in equally in all directions, then performing an integration in spherical coordinates, the net force perpendicular to the surface is only half as great per unit power involved as with a directed beam. This also applies to reflection, if the reflection is from a diffuse source, or if the reflector is diffuse in such a way that it reflects equally in all directions (over the 2 * pi steradians of sky visible from a given point on the surface), so if the light in interstellar space is more or less uniformly distributed (at least as an approximation, though point symmetry would also apply) such that an opaque flat surface is exposed to incident electromagnetic radiation of P watts per square meter, then the net light pressure on the reflective side (in Newtons per square meter) is P / 2c from the incident light plus P / 2c from the reflection, for a total of P / c (where c is the speed of light, ~ 3E8 m/s). 2) The thrust of a directed beam of light is P/c : note that wavelength does not enter into the equation. Thus, thermal infrared energy also produces light pressure. For a flat surface radiating energy at rate P watts per square meter, the net force perpendicular to the surface is P / 2c, where again the factor of 2 is needed because the radiation is diffuse rather than directed. The nonreflective side of your solar sail absorbs energy from the background light of interstellar space, and re-radiates an equal amount. You might think that the reflective side if the sail would also radiate some of the energy absorbed by the nonreflective side, but in fact good reflectors make poor radiators - a perfect reflector would not radiate any energy at all, so all of the energy would have to be radiated from the nonreflective side. The net force against the nonreflective side is thus P / 2c from the incident light pressure, and P / 2c from the radiated energy, so the total is P / c, which is equal to the pressure on the reflective side, so there is no net force on the solar sail as a whole that can be used for acceleration. Note that if more incident radiation strikes one side of the sail than the other, this analysis doesn't mean there won't be net acceleration. But the same would be the case with a conventional solar sail. John Roberts roberts@cmr.ncsl.nist.gov ------------------------------ Date: 5 Feb 1993 00:24:30 -0500 From: Pat Subject: So what's happened to Henry Spencer? Newsgroups: sci.space In article henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes: |The space-related parts of the "away" part may be of interest... First, |I attended "Making Orbit 93", which was a seriously neat con with some |very interesting people. Where else can you hear Max Hunter explain |why his Thor team fought to end static tests, Gary Hudson discuss the |history of his single-stage-to-orbit concepts, and Mitchell Burnside |Clapp tell you why kerosene and hydrogen peroxide is a better fuel |combination for an SSTO than LOX/LH2? Or see videos of (for example) |the Soviet N1 lunar booster exploding on its first flight? If the Henry. WOuld you be able to post your notes from the convention???? pat ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1993 15:42:24 GMT From: Bruce Dunn Subject: Space Station Freedom Media Handbook - 16/18 Newsgroups: sci.space From NASA SPACELINK: "6_10_2_7.TXT" (4147 bytes) was created on 10-06-92 Work Package Contractors Work Package 1 Boeing Defense & Space GroupHuntsville, AL Prime Contractor Teledyne Brown EngineeringHuntsville, AL Lab Outfitting Equipment, Payload Integration, Ground-Support Equipment and Laboratory Support Equipment TRW, Inc.Huntsville, AL Systems Simulation and Training Software Allied-Signal AiResearchTorrance, CA Thermal Control, Environmental Control and Life Support, Valves, Fire Detection Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.Sunnyvale, CA Life Sciences and Animal Research Facilities Outfitting Hamilton StandardWindsor Locks, CT Water Recovery (hygiene and potable), Temperature and Humidity Control; Avionics Cooling, Commode/Urinal Subassembly ArdeNorwood, NJ ECLSS Tank Sets Loral FairchildSyossett, NY Video Systems Astro International Corp.League City, TX ECLSS Processing Control Water Quality Monitoring Grumman Aerospace Corp.Houston, TX Design and Outfit Habitation Module ILC Space SystemsHouston, TX Galley, Laundry, Refrigerator, Trash, Storage Life SystemsCleveland, OH CO2 Reduction, O2 Generator, Urine Processor Camus, Inc.Houston, TX Mockups, Trainers, Simulators, Flight Hardware Harris CorpMelbourne, FL Internal Audio/Video System Perkin-ElmerPomona, CA Atmosphere Composition Monitor Ball Aerospace Co.Boulder, CO Fluid Subcarrier Tank Sets ILC TechnologySunnyvale, CA General Lighting Work Package 2 McDonnell DouglasHuntington Beach, CA Prime Contractor McDonnell DouglasHouston, TX Software Development, Operations Planning, Flight Crew Integration, Airlock Testing Lockheed Missiles & Space Co.Sunnyvale, CA Thermal Control System, Support to EVA Rotary Mechanisms Lockheed Eng. & SciencesHouston, TX EVA Technical Support Hamilton StandardWindsor Locks, CT and Houston, TX Shuttle Extravehicular Mobility Unit (EMU) Program Interfacing LTV Grand Prarie, TX Heat Rejection System General ElectricCamden, NJ Communication & Tracking System MotorolaScottsdale, AZ Various Communications Equipment Spar AerospaceCanada Station Antennae Honeywell, Inc.Clearwater, FL Control System Honeywell, Inc.Glendale, AZ Multiplexer/Demultiplexer (MDM) Allied SignalTeteboro, NJ Control Moment Gyros IBMHouston, TX Data Management System IBMOswego, NY Data Management System, Flight Hardware AstroCarpinteria, CA Mobile Transporter EagleHouston, TX Technical Services Work Package 4 Rockwell InternationalCanoga Park, CA Prime Contractor: System Integrator, PMAD Rocketdyne Division Software, Beta Gimbal, IEA Allied-Signal AerospaceTempe, AZ Closed Brayton Cycle Engine Allied-Signal AerospaceTorrance, CA Solar Receiver Ford AerospacePalo Alto, CA Batteries, DC Source PMAD, EEE Parts Lockheed Missiles & SpaceSunnyvale, CA Solar Arrays Hamilton StandardWindsor Locks, CT Thermal Control System, Pump Flow Control System Harris CorporationMelbourne, FL Solar Concentrator LTVDallas, TX SD Radiator Spectrolab, Inc.Sylmar, CA Solar Cells Applied Solar Energy, Corp.City of Industry, CA Solar Cells, Bypass Diode Honeywell Space & AviationDurham, NC Motor Drive Assembly AEC-Able EngineeringGoleta, CA Mast Canisters Sheldahl, Inc.Northfield, MN Kapton Coating, FCC Cable Whittaker-YarndeyPawcatuck, CT Battery Cells Gates CorporationGainsville, FL Battery Cells Management Support and Information Systems Contractors Technical and Management Information Systems Boeing Computer Services Reston, VA Space Station Engineering and Integration Contractor Grumman Space Station Program Support Division Reston, VA Software Support Environment Lockheed Missiles and Space Co. 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Address is 192.149.89.61. -- Bruce Dunn Vancouver, Canada Bruce_Dunn@mindlink.bc.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 93 21:16:54 GMT From: Bob Combs Subject: Today in 1986-Remember the Challenger Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.space.shuttle ------------------------------ Date: 5 Feb 93 14:00:09 GMT From: John VanAntwerp Subject: Units and Star Trek Newsgroups: sci.space billg@bony1.bony.com (Bill Gripp) writes: >In article <1993Feb2.202801.17337@socrates.umd.edu> john@socrates.umd.edu (John VanAntwerp) writes: >>In the original series, "warp speeds" were defined as: >> >> c * [warp ** 3] >I heard it was c ** warp. This never made sense to me because it >depends on the units you use to define c (i.e. if c is 1 light year/year >then c ** warp is always 1). Why warp ** 3? (besides the fact that they >had to pick something). This is the formula from Gene Rodenberry's book on the series... I will re- read that section and post a summary of his reasoning (he does give an explanation, if I remember right). ------------------------------ Date: 5 Feb 93 06:11:27 GMT From: Kirk Marcroft Subject: Wanted- Mars Gif Newsgroups: sci.space I'm looking for a computer generated gif of what Mars would like if it were covered by 2/3 of water like Earth. It was in an issue of Popular Science back in 1992. any info would be helpful... thanks Wookie --MetaUseNet v2.22 [CNet Amiga] ------------------------------ End of Space Digest Volume 16 : Issue 141 ------------------------------