Date: Fri, 12 Feb 93 20:44:57 From: Space Digest maintainer Reply-To: Space-request@isu.isunet.edu Subject: Space Digest V16 #168 To: Space Digest Readers Precedence: bulk Space Digest Fri, 12 Feb 93 Volume 16 : Issue 168 Today's Topics: Astro FTP list - February issue Atlantis... Getting people into Space Program! HST repair mission I have a dream! People into Space.. job listings for sci.space (2 msgs) kerosene/peroxide SSTO Launching using Pegasus Meteor Riding/Netting (lets go fishing) Other shuttles (was Re: Getting people into Space Program!) parachutes on Challenger? parachutes on Challenger? Ejection Seats! space news from Nov 23 AW&ST Welcome to the Space Digest!! 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Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.space.shuttle In article shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer) writes: >Brian> Yep, Atlantis is at Palmdale (Downey? I've heard both and don't know >Brian> which is correct...) > >There has never been a Shuttle in Downey and there probably will never >be. Downey doesn't even have a runway long enough to get the >SCA/Shuttle combination into the airport. But, for the record, for many years there was (and may still be) a Mock Shuttle in Downey. It was very impressive to walk up to and around in (when Rockwell allowed it). Or, to paraphrase a .sig I've seen occasionally, "A mock Shuttle at your feet is better than no Shuttle at all". :-) Craig Milo Rogers ------------------------------ Date: 10 Feb 93 08:59:17 GMT From: Josh Hopkins Subject: Getting people into Space Program! Newsgroups: sci.space rfentima@ub.d.umn.edu (Robert Fentiman) writes: >(Edward V. Wright) writes: >(Matthew DeLuca) writes: >If you're interested in getting your money's worth, why >:are you supporting an agency that's spending $36 billion for a space >:station that should cost no more than $4 billion even as a government >:project? >Keep in mind that the 36 billion is a LONG term budget (NOT what it >costs to just build the thing, but to support it over a number of years >- 4 billion is a GROSS underestimate when it comes to that). Not! The Freedom budget is in the multigigabuck per year range. Thirty-odd billion is the cost to get the thing into orbit. Thirty years of ops comes with its own price tag. -- Josh Hopkins jbh55289@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu You only live once. But if you live it right, once is enough. In memoria, WDH ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1993 07:11:07 GMT From: Dave Rickel Subject: HST repair mission Newsgroups: sci.space In article , steinly@topaz.ucsc.edu (Steinn Sigurdsson) writes: |> |> There's a faint rumour that the "return-to-Earth" option |> for the HST mission has been re-opened and that a committee [sic] |> has been set up to look at that option [again]. Hmm. Sounds stupid from where i sit. I think they'd have to blow the solar panels to get it into the shuttle bay (not a biggie--they should replace them anyway, but i'm not sure the safety people would like the idea of loose solar panels floating around). I suspect that there are components that have rotated off their supports that aren't designed to rotate back--you can probably write them off. The big mirror will probably get contaminated on the way down and while waiting for relaunch--i guess that might give Kodak a chance to grind theirs. And then it will sit around for a year waiting to be refurbished and relaunched, while the astronomers who could have gotten something done with the old optics grind their teeth. It'd be nice if NASA would think about Hubble Jr., but that's probably a non-starter. david rickel drickel@sjc.mentorg.com ------------------------------ Date: 10 Feb 93 09:10:08 GMT From: Josh Hopkins Subject: I have a dream! People into Space.. Newsgroups: talk.politics.space,sci.space nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu writes: >Catch the common peoples imagination, and give them a reason to want to support >the space research of the Federal Government. Get the individual states of the >union involved.. >More pan-national space projects.. Better ties with other space agencies, >We need to sell the dream to the next generation of US population/citizen. As long as you're dreaming you might as well pick a better utopia. In an ideal spacefaring world the government would have little role as anything but a regulator. In an ideal world you wouldn't have to sell the idea of government projects to the citizens, you'd sell the idea of private projects to the CEOs. Now this doesn't mean that I abhor government involvement back here in the real world but they aren't in my utopia. >So an idea sounds "crazy" but that does not mean that it will not work! >I liek the idea of a lottery for a future space mission. ^^^^ Please, please learn to spell this word right. I don't normally gripe about the atrocious grammer and spelling on the net but this is clearly a word you can't spell, not one you can't type. >Why do I liek it, >cause it gets the normal on the street person a chance to be part of the >development of space. If we leave the common people out of the clique of space, >all we get is an apathetic population who care little about wether we even have >a space program.. I dissagree completely. NASA's flown "passengers" before (even if they were politicians and not farmers from Des Moines). I wasn't impressed. We flew 48 Americans last year. It would be a waste to have bumped anyone just to fly some tourist. -- Josh Hopkins jbh55289@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu You only live once. But if you live it right, once is enough. In memoria, WDH ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 93 12:37:49 GMT From: Ata Etemadi Subject: job listings for sci.space Newsgroups: sci.space In article , rabjab@golem.ucsd.edu (Jeff Bytof) writes: |> I think it would be good for many of us if space |> related jobs currently available could be posted to this group. |> I would be willing to type and post relevant listings if copies were sent |> to me. |> -Jeff Bytof If you become a member of the American Geophysical Union (AGU) you will get monthly copies of EOS and Physics Today. EOS contains *only* space related jobs, and Physics Today generally contains space related post-doctoral jobs. The National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR) has system of informing people about jobs through the phone. I'd sure appreciate an electronic version of the EOS and Physics Today job listings (it its legal to do it). regards Ata <(|)>. | Mail Dr Ata Etemadi, Blackett Laboratory, | | Space and Atmospheric Physics Group, | | Imperial College of Science, Technology, and Medicine, | | Prince Consort Road, London SW7 2BZ, ENGLAND | | Internet/Arpanet/Earn/Bitnet atae@spva.ph.ic.ac.uk or ata@c.mssl.ucl.ac.uk | | Span SPVA::atae or MSSLC:atae | | UUCP/Usenet atae%spva.ph.ic@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk | ------------------------------ Date: 10 Feb 93 07:10:54 -0800 From: krajnakm@gtewd.mtv.gsc.gte.com Subject: job listings for sci.space Newsgroups: sci.space In article <1993Feb10.123749.20668@cc.ic.ac.uk>, atae@crab.ph.ic (Ata Etemadi) writes: > > If you become a member of the American Geophysical Union (AGU) you > will get monthly copies of EOS and Physics Today. EOS contains *only* > space related jobs, ... ------ > Not quite, EOS posts jobs opportunties in the following catagories: Atmospheric Sciences Hydology Ocean Sciences Solid Earth Geophysics Space Physics Interdisciplinary/Other Student Opportunities The "Space Physics" section is usually the shortest, with one or two positions listed per week, and is sometimes is omitted all together. These positions are almost always for university faculty or lab managers (no commercial positions). Not much help to someone without a Phd (I'm working on it, but it will be awhile since I'm holding down my full time job as a s/w engineer). The bad news is that I haven't found a better source. I do enjoy gettig EOS as a method of keeping in touch to a small degree with what is happening, but not for the job listings. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Krajnak | "If at first you don't succeed, give up, no use Aspiring Space Physicist | being a damn fool." krajnakm%venus.dnet@gte.com | -Even I don't take my opinions seriously. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1993 09:02:44 GMT From: Dave Rickel Subject: kerosene/peroxide SSTO Newsgroups: sci.space In article <1993Feb8.145724.14753@bsu-ucs>, 01crmeyer@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (Craig Meyer) writes: |> The space-dunce's instincts say that eliminating a mechanical fuel-delivery |> system would greatly simplify a launch vehicle. Thicker tanks SEEM to be worth |> it, but I don't know the numbers. Well, i tried to figure out about what exhaust velocity you could expect from H2O2/RP-1. I couldn't find RP-1 in my CRC (no surprise there), so i'll use methane (just to get a ballpark figure). I rather arbitrarily derated the exhaust velocity to 85% of the maximum value, and then figured what mass ratio you needed for orbit (figuring an overall delta V of 9.5 km/sec). Oh well--i'll throw in ethelene as well. Fuel Max Exh Vel Derated Exh Vel Mass ratio for (km/sec) (km/sec) delta V = 9.5 km/sec H2O2/CH4 4.0 3.4 17 H2O2/C2H4 4.0 3.4 16 O2/CH4 4.4 3.7 13 O2/C2H4 4.5 3.8 12 O2/H2 5.2 4.4 8.6 H2O2 still looks pretty iffy. My derating factor is probably a bit high for the top four combinations--i've started everything out from the gas state at 25 C, just because it was easy, and picked the derating factor to get the performance of the O2/H2 combination down to something close to the real world. Pretty clearly, the other reactants don't need to be warmed up to that extent, and shouldn't be derated quite as much. david rickel drickel@sjc.mentorg.com ------------------------------ Date: 10 Feb 1993 15:30:53 GMT From: Claudio Egalon Subject: Launching using Pegasus Newsgroups: sci.space I would like to thank everybody who followed up with the Pegasus launch of the Brazilian satellite. I will be posting these articles in the group soc.culture.brazil. BTW, there are still some talk in the Brazilian community that the choice for Pegasus was not a wise one that is because other bidders (apparently from Russia and Frence) offered to launch the Brazilian sattellite in more reliable rockets and also for a better price. Brazilian government is known to do very dumb things so I am wondering if the price offered to use Pegasus was really high compared with the other ones. Is there anyone in the NET that knows anything about that? C.O.Egalon@larc.nasa.gov ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1993 06:21:07 GMT From: Jonathan Burns Subject: Meteor Riding/Netting (lets go fishing) Newsgroups: sci.space,rec.arts.sf.science In article szabo@techbook.com (Nick Szabo) writes: > jbh55289@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Josh Hopkins) writes: >> Now picture yourself throwing a net in front of one of the >> hypersonic battleships. > Let's throw out the net or grappler at hypervelocity, so that its > delta-v with the asteroid is very low. If the delta-v between spacecraft > and asteroid is 4.0 km/s, we might throw the grappler back from the > spacecraft at 3.99 km/s. It then snags the asteroid at 10 m/s, > and a _very long_ bungee chord absorbs the remaining 3,990 m/s over > many minutes, until the spacecraft and asteroid have matched velocities. > Part of the energy can also be absorbed by a friction reel and heat > dissipation system, or by spinning up a flywheel which can then > be used to launch payloads the other way. (This gets back to the > rotating tether idea, which might also be used here). > The chord will be very heavy. If it's heavier than the spacecraft, > it takes less energy to move the spacecraft than to launch the > bungee chord & grappler. So, this technique works best if it is deployed > from the asteroid and reused. To save launch costs, we could use > chemical microreactors to make the bungee chords from cometary organics. > Bungee braking! :-) This has the appeal of all the old movies I ever saw! It's Roy Rogers (ropin' steers), Moby Dick and Robin Hood rolled into one... Rock closing, Cap'n! Anchors AWAY!!! Zzzzziiiiiiiip Whoosh Vroooooooooooooooom Steady on the gyros, Mister Hopkins. Uh sir, we have a slight tangle on the pickup... Ration me rum and stap me vittles! Release anchor ye scum! < TWangggg > Ah well, fire up the boilers... Unbalanced counter-rotor! Bearing's overheating! What? JETTISON! JETTISON!! Thank the Lord. Now get something done about that spin before we all lose our breakfast. Cap'n, line's coming back the other way! HAAARD APORRT! Bugger the off-axis thrust, Szabo, just get us out of here! Despite this, I think the thing's plausible. Might find a niche in Lunar surface-to-orbit operation. Now where did I put that 100-mile Spectra-line? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jonathan Burns | but look who follows in my train a desert ant a burns@latcs1.lat.oz.au| tamerlane who ate a pyramid in half that he might Computer Science Dept | get at and devour the mummies of six hundred kings La Trobe University | who in remote antiquity stepped on and crushed | ancestors of his archys life of mehitabel ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1993 10:36:46 GMT From: Herby Utz Subject: Other shuttles (was Re: Getting people into Space Program!) Newsgroups: sci.space In article <1l9o9iINNpum@phantom.gatech.edu>, matthew@phantom.gatech.edu (Matthew DeLuca) writes: >Hermes is still on, although there's political infighting going on over it. Just believe me: Hermes is as dead as it can be - at least the shuttle version. Some officials and engineers in Europe are now considering a reusable capsule. However: the unrealistic attept to build a shuttle has probably (I'm afraid...) killed the whole European manned space programme... >HOPE is indeed a shuttle program, although unmanned. There's also at least >some consideration being given to a manned shuttle, although it's not a >priority at all. All right: a winged shuttle could be a good way to launch and land payload as unmanned vehicle. It is, however, too dangerous for launching astronauts, compared to a capsule. A capsule can be its own rescue system if equipped with a rescue tower. If you try to equip a shuttle with an escape cabin, you're loosing a huge amount (sometimes all) of your payload capacity (see Hermes). >The point I am getting at, I would say, is that with the sole exception of >the Russians, nobody is considering using disposable capsules for their manned>access to space, and the Russians themselves are or were trying to get away >from it. Seems like everyone's trying to forward, except for certain elements >here in the U.S. Why must a capsule be disposable? It's much easier to build a reusable capsule than a shuttle. And on the other hand: The capsule is more efficient and much more safer. Is the shuttle really a step forward? | Herbert Utz at Lehrstuhl fuer Raumfahrttechnik (Chair of Astronautics) | | Technische Universitaet Muenchen | | Richard-Wagner-Strasse 18/III, 8000 Muenchen 2, Germany | | utz@asterix.lrt.mw.tu-muenchen.de Phone +49/89/2105-2578 | -- | Herbert Utz at Lehrstuhl fuer Raumfahrttechnik (Chair of Astronautics) | | Technische Universitaet Muenchen | | Richard-Wagner-Strasse 18/III, 8000 Muenchen 2, Germany | | utz@asterix.lrt.mw.tu-muenchen.de Phone +49/89/2105-2578 | ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1993 15:39:47 GMT From: Jochen Bern Subject: parachutes on Challenger? Newsgroups: sci.space In <1993Feb9.211946.6260@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes: >I don't know if you've considered just what a violent event an >ejection is. I would consider a design that fired *my* seat when >*you* pulled down your blast-blind to be a hopeless misdesign, since >even if prepared for it an ejection can cause some serious injuries. >Being ejected by 'remote control' automatically would quite likely >cost someone arms, legs, and some serious spinal injuries. This is >*not* a nice, gentle push. It is touching off what is in effect a >bomb under the seat. I have been told (by a Pilot I know) that Starfighters can be set up so that the Navigator either can take the Pilot with him or not; The Pilot will *always* take the Navigator with him since the latter probably wouldn't have much Business to do in a pilotless Airplane. :-) Not from that Pilot, but quite reasonable: I've read that most Ejection Seats contain Devices which will pull Arms, Legs and whatever you name close to the Seat immediately before you get blown up. The only Diffi- culty I see is how to hold the Blanket in Front of your Face when your Arms get pulled. Of course, you shouldn't have put Hands or Feet into a Place where they can't be just pulled away. In another Mag, I saw a Photo of a Ejection Seat Test with some actual Aircraft Type (Tornado?). The Pilot was shot out *first*. Exhausts weren't a Problem since the two Cabins were (seemed to be) separated. BTW, are there any Attempts to incorporate this russian Eject-Head-down Capability into western Airplanes? (The Para gets opened by a small "Gas Generator" Explosion.) Just my .02 (Flamers, .45 available on Request), J. Bern -- / \ I hate NN rejecting .sigs >4 lines. Even though *I* set up this one. /\ / J. \ EMail: bern@[TI.]Uni-Trier.DE / ham: DD0KZ / More Infos on me from / \ \Bern/ X.400 Mail: S=BERN;P=Uni-Trier;A=dbp;C=de / X.400 Directory, see \ / \ / Zurmaiener Str. 98-100, D-W-5500 Trier / X.29 # 45050230303. \/ ------------------------------ Date: 10 Feb 93 15:14:14 GMT From: "Allen W. Sherzer" Subject: parachutes on Challenger? Ejection Seats! Newsgroups: sci.space In article <75277@cup.portal.com> BrianT@cup.portal.com (Brian Stuart Thorn) writes: >Maybe what is needed is to have astronauts to organize and bsically say, you >design the next shuttle with a ejection module or something, or we will not >fly!! > John Young essentially did, but don't hold your breath waiting > for Shuttle Mk.II. Another example of putting design before requirements. What Mr. Young needs is intact abort throughoughout the flight envelope. Airliners don't have ejection seats, nither should spacecraft. Allen -- +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Allen W. Sherzer | "A great man is one who does nothing but leaves | | aws@iti.org | nothing undone" | +----------------------125 DAYS TO FIRST FLIGHT OF DCX----------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: 9 Feb 93 16:42:24 GMT From: jack hagerty Subject: space news from Nov 23 AW&ST Newsgroups: sci.space In article henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes: > >Clementine 1, the SDIO/NASA sensor-test mission...on schedule for >Jan 1994 launch...on a refurbished Titan II. This, I take it, will be a Vandenberg launch? Does NASA have any Titan facilities in Florida? Can you launch a II off of a III4E pad? - Jack ============================================================================= ||Jack Hagerty, Robotic Midwives, Ltd. jack@rml.com || ||Livermore, CA NOTE! New, improved address! ^^^ || ||(510) 455-1143 (old ones will still work) || ||-------------------------------------------------------------------------|| || "I'm sorry they're flying so low and jamming your radar, Dimitri, but || || they're trained to do that. It's called, you know, initiative" || ============================================================================= ------------------------------ End of Space Digest Volume 16 : Issue 168 ------------------------------