Date: Fri, 16 Apr 93 05:00:05 From: Space Digest maintainer Reply-To: Space-request@isu.isunet.edu Subject: Space Digest V16 #462 To: Space Digest Readers Precedence: bulk Space Digest Fri, 16 Apr 93 Volume 16 : Issue 462 Today's Topics: Clementine name (2 msgs) Clementine Science Team Selected Comet in Temporary Orbit Around Jupiter? (2 msgs) GPS information (2 msgs) How many read sci.space? NEED JOB New DC-x gif Ozone GIFs Available Shuttle-C cost estimating Solar Sail Data Some Recent Observations by Hubble Soviet Space Book The Legislative Intent of the Hatch Act Toys in Space Vulcan? No, not Spock or Haphaestus What were "the other things"? (2 msgs) Welcome to the Space Digest!! Please send your messages to "space@isu.isunet.edu", and (un)subscription requests of the form "Subscribe Space " to one of these addresses: listserv@uga (BITNET), rice::boyle (SPAN/NSInet), utadnx::utspan::rice::boyle (THENET), or space-REQUEST@isu.isunet.edu (Internet). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 10:17:10 GMT From: Magnus Olsson Subject: Clementine name Newsgroups: sci.space In article <734850108.F00001@permanet.org> Mark.Prado@p2.f349.n109.z1.permanet.org (Mark Prado) writes: > > Since the mission could provide information for future > > prospecting, it was felt that the name should reflect a > > mining theme - thus, was Clementine named. > >Please go just one step further: >How has the word "Clementine" been associated with mining? "In a cavern, in a canyon, excavating for a mine, dwelt a miner, forty-niner, and his daughter Clementine" That's the only association I can think of. Magnus Olsson | \e+ /_ Department of Theoretical Physics | \ Z / q University of Lund, Sweden | >----< magnus@thep.lu.se, thepmo@selund.bitnet | / \===== g PGP key available via finger or on request | /e- \q ------------------------------ Date: 15 Apr 93 16:01:25 GMT From: Dwight Tuinstra Subject: Clementine name Newsgroups: sci.space In article F00001@permanet.org, Mark.Prado@p2.f349.n109.z1.permanet.org (Mark Prado) writes: >Please go just one step further: >How has the word "Clementine" been associated with mining? > Could be the (folk?) song "Clementine". If memory serves, part of it goes: In a cavern, by a canyon, Excavating for a mine, Dwelt a miner, forty-niner, and his daughter, Clementine. Anyone who watched Huckleberry Hound can sing you the chorus :-) Is there a story/real person behind the song? +========================================================================+ | dwight tuinstra best: tuinstra@sandman.ece.clarkson.edu | | tolerable: tuinstrd@craft.camp.clarkson.edu | | | | "Homo sapiens: planetary cancer?? ... News at six" | +========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: 15 Apr 1993 14:43:53 GMT From: John F Carr Subject: Clementine Science Team Selected Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.astro In article nickh@CS.CMU.EDU (Nick Haines) writes: >At the time, astronomy was vital to the military, in that navigation >and cartography were of primary impoortance to the military, and good >cartography was impossible without good astronomy. > >The relevance these days is somewhat less obvious. I heard about an interesting example of useful data flow from the military to scientists. The military needs to know the earth's gravitational field to very high precision to accurately guide ICBMs. In fact, they know the paramters of the field to very high order, far better than anyone else. This is highly sensitive data (we don't, or didn't at the time, want the Russians to accurately guide their missiles). But the military did make a deal with some scientists: they revealed the sums of the squares of the coefficients of each of the higher order modes of the earth's gravitational field. This doesn't help you guide a missile, but was apparently of use to people studying the composition of the earth. -- John Carr (jfc@athena.mit.edu) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 93 09:43:20 GMT From: Mark Brader Subject: Comet in Temporary Orbit Around Jupiter? Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.astro,alt.sci.planetary > > So how close would the comet have gotten to Jupiter on the pass that > > put it into temporary orbit, and how far is it likely to get from > > Jupiter before it makes its escape? > > The answer to all of these questions is we don't know yet. > We don't know for sure if the comet is in a temporary orbit. I see. I wasn't so interested in this particular case as in typical behavior, anyway. Can these questions be answered for a previous instance, such as the Gehrels 3 that was mentioned in an earlier posting? -- Mark Brader "...we are now uniquely privileged to sit side by side SoftQuad Inc., Toronto with the giants on whose shoulders we stand." utzoo!sq!msb, msb@sq.com -- Gerald Holton This article is in the public domain. ------------------------------ Date: 15 Apr 1993 15:01 UT From: Ron Baalke Subject: Comet in Temporary Orbit Around Jupiter? Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.astro,alt.sci.planetary In article <1993Apr15.094320.1723@sq.sq.com>, msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader) writes... >> > So how close would the comet have gotten to Jupiter on the pass that >> > put it into temporary orbit, and how far is it likely to get from >> > Jupiter before it makes its escape? >> >> The answer to all of these questions is we don't know yet. >> We don't know for sure if the comet is in a temporary orbit. > >I see. I wasn't so interested in this particular case as in typical >behavior, anyway. Can these questions be answered for a previous >instance, such as the Gehrels 3 that was mentioned in an earlier posting? Gehrels 3 was in a temporary Jovian orbit for about 3 or 4 years. I'll get the orbital elements from Dance of the Planets and post them here. There is another case of a comet in temporary orbit around Jupiter, Comet Helin-Roman-Crockett, but I don't have too much information on this one. ___ _____ ___ /_ /| /____/ \ /_ /| Ron Baalke | baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov | | | | __ \ /| | | | Jet Propulsion Lab | ___| | | | |__) |/ | | |__ M/S 525-3684 Telos | Being cynical never helps /___| | | | ___/ | |/__ /| Pasadena, CA 91109 | to correct the situation |_____|/ |_|/ |_____|/ | and causes more aggravation | instead. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 09:35:30 GMT From: "Piet op den Brouw." Subject: GPS information Newsgroups: sci.space The GPS Information Center of the US Coast Guard provides information of the GPS satellites. GPSIC also provides Operational Advisory Broadcasts. I am trying to find out where and how to get that information. P.J. op den Brouw. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Piet op den Brouw Phone : +31 70 314 2433 SHAPE Technical Centre Fax : +31 70 314 2111 p.o. Box 174 2501 CD The Hague Email : brouw@stc.nato.int Netherlands ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 12:16:52 GMT From: lang@unb.ca Subject: GPS information Newsgroups: sci.space In article brouw@stc.nato.int (Piet op den Brouw.) writes: > > The GPS Information Center of the US Coast Guard > provides information of the GPS satellites. > GPSIC also provides Operational Advisory Broadcasts. > I am trying to find out where and how to get that > information. > P.J. op den Brouw. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Piet op den Brouw Phone : +31 70 314 2433 >SHAPE Technical Centre Fax : +31 70 314 2111 >p.o. Box 174 >2501 CD The Hague Email : brouw@stc.nato.int >Netherlands >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > From the CANSPACE file archives ... GPS INFORMATION SOURCES ----------------------- GPS INFORMATION CENTER o Official U.S. Gov't. point of contact for civilian users o Operated by U.S. Coast Guard o Voice telephone recording for constellation status: (703) 866-3826 o Computer bulletin board: (703) 866-3890 (up to 2400 bps; (703) 866-3894 (4800 or 9600 bps) - almanacs, etc. o WWV / WWVH shortwave broadcasts - constellation status o DMA and USCG notices and broadcasts UNITED STATES NAVAL OBSERVATORY o Responsible for monitoring behaviour of satellite clocks o Clock data and general information on GPS available from Automated Data Service (BBS): (202) 653-0155, (202) 653-0068 (1200 and 2400 bps); also available via Internet (192.5.41.239; login = ads) o USNO Series 4 mailed weekly bulletins contain satellite clock info USAF GPS BBS AT HOLLOMAN AFB, NM o Operated by USAF; formerly at Yuma o Daily almanac, observed range errors, tracking data o (505) 679-1525 (variety of bit rates) UNITED KINGDOM CIVIL SATELLITE GROUP ELECTRONIC BBS o Operated by the University of Nottingham for the Royal Institution of Navigation o Full access is only available to members of UKCSG o +44-602-422111 (2400 bps) GPSINFO ELECTRONIC VIDEOTEX BBS o Operated by the Survey Department of Rijkswaterstaat, (the Dutch Ministry of Transport and Public Works), Delft o +31-15-561959 (1200 and 2400 bps) GPS INFO ELECTRONIC BBS o Operated by Statens Kartverk, (the Norweigan Mapping Authority), Honefoss. o +47-67-24045 (1200 and 2400 bps) GLOBAL SATELLITE SOFTWARE BBS o Operated by Global Satellite Software, Inc., San Jose, California o (408) 252-7358 (300 / 1200 / 2400 bps) INSTITUT FUR ANGEWANDTE GEODASIE BBS o Frankfurt/M, Germany o +49-69-6333-379 (up to 19200 bps) GRINEL - PROFESSIONAL ELECTRONICS BBS o Verwoerdburg, South Africa o +27-12-663-2583 (300 to 2400 bps) KORT- OG MATRIKELSTYRELSEN BBS o Kobenhavn, Denmark o +45-31853541 (up to 2400 bps) ASSOCIATED CONSULTING INC. BBS o Las Vegas, Nevada, U.S.A. o (702) 647-9266 (300/1200/2400 bps) NATIONAL LAND SURVEY BBS o Gavle, Sweden o +46-26-153748 (up to 19200 bps) GPS WORLD MAGAZINE o Semi-monthly magazine covering the spectrum of GPS usage o Free subscriptions to qualified individuals o Aster Publishing Corporation P.O. Box 10460 Eugene, Oregon 97440-2460 U.S.A. Phone: (503) 343-1200 Fax: (503) 344-3514 Telex: 510-597-0365 CSTG GPS SUBCOMMISSION'S GPS BULLETIN o Bulletin of the GPS Subcommission under Commission VIII, Inter- national Coordination of Space Techniques for Geodesy and Geo- dynamics of the International Association of Geodesy and the International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics o Reports on GPS developments related to high accuracy uses of GPS o Status of the Cooperative International GPS Network (CIGNET) o GPS Bulletin is prepared and distributed by the National Geodetic Survey, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, U.S. Department of Commerce o Editor: Miranda Chin N/CG 114 National Geodetic Survey 11400 Rockville Pike, Room 419 Rockville, MD 20852 U.S.A. CANADIAN SPACE GEODESY FORUM o A LISTSERV-based discussion and information electronic mailing list o Address of list: CANSPACE@UNB.CA o Address for further information: LANG@UNB.CA ============================================================================== Richard B. Langley Internet: LANG@UNB.CA or SE@UNB.CA Geodetic Research Laboratory BITnet: LANG@UNB or SE@UNB Dept. of Surveying Engineering Phone: (506) 453-5142 University of New Brunswick FAX: (506) 453-4943 Fredericton, N.B., Canada E3B 5A3 Telex: 014-46202 ============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: 15 Apr 1993 10:38:43 -0400 From: Pat Subject: How many read sci.space? Newsgroups: sci.space In the old days, their used to be Arbitron stats' that analyzed the readership and posting volumes by group and user. They were available from UUNET. That's how you check the readership of Sci.space, not some stupid unscientific attempt to flood the newsgroup. I have abetter idea. WHy don't we all reply directly to the origanator of this post, and tell him we read sci.space ;-) pat ------------------------------ Date: 15 Apr 93 00:56:00 GMT From: Larry Kizziah Subject: NEED JOB Newsgroups: sci.space ........................continued from previous message ***********************Electronic Resume*************************** Tommy C. Thompson 205-798-2010 OBJECTIVE A challenging position as a Electronics Technician or Field Service Representative which will utilize acquired skills, expertise and experience. QUALIFICATIONS Offering a strong electronics background based on 6 years of experience as a U.S. Navy Fire Control Technician. Held Secret Security Clearance. Troubleshoot, repair, test, install and maintain complex digital and analog electronic systems and devices to the component level. Experienced in micro-miniature (2M) repair procedures. Set up and execute recurring tests to identify and resolve potential equipment failures. 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PERSONAL Willing to travel and/or relocate. Prefer the Southeastern U.S. employment areas. References available upon request. ------------------------------ Date: 15 Apr 1993 15:28:32 GMT From: Andy Cohen Subject: New DC-x gif Newsgroups: sci.space Hi all I just uploaded "DCXart2.GIF" to bongo.cc.utexas.edu...after Chris Johnson moves it, it'll probably be in pub/delta-clipper. A great artist's version of DC-X.... The only differences are the nozzels had round covers around where the exhaust came out that looked like flat disks... and the nose had some kind of small box on the needle... It sure looks strange! We've been told that SDI may not have the $ that we were previously told had been set aside for the DC-Y afterall....... Assuming DC-X is somewhat of a success....It will probably require a great deal of grass roots and science communitee support later this year to "educate" those who run this country's space program...... She's at White Sands now. Static firing tests should be the end of the month! ------------------------------ Date: 15 Apr 1993 18:09 UT From: Ron Baalke Subject: Ozone GIFs Available Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.geo.meteorology ========================== OZONE GIF IMAGES April 15, 1993 ========================== Two GIF images of the ozone maps over the northern and southern hemispheres are now available at the JPL Info public access site. These maps were produced by the Microwave Limb Sounder aboard the Upper Atmosphere Research Satellite (UARS), and are courtesy of the Public Information Office at JPL. Note that the images are in GIF89a format, so make sure your display software supports this format (as opposed to the older GIF87a format). The caption files accompanying the images are appended at the end of this message, as well as being embedded in the images. The images are available by dialup modem at +1 (818) 354-1333, up to 9600 bps, parameters N-8-1, or by using anonymous ftp to: ftp: pubinfo.jpl.nasa.gov (128.149.6.2) user: anonymous cd: news (will be moved to the images directory in 30 days) files: ozone93a.gif - Northern hemisphere ozone93b.gif - Southern hemisphere Also, photographic prints of these images can be ordered from Newell Color Lab listed below. Refer to the P number associated with the images when ordering. Newell Color Lab 221 N. Westmoreland Avenue Los Angeles CA 90064 Telephone: (213) 380-2980 FAX: (213) 739-6984 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ozone93a.gif PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICE JET PROPULSION LABORATORY CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION PASADENA, CALIF. 91109. TELEPHONE (818) 354-5011 PHOTO P-42210 April 14, 1993 This graphic depicts chlorine monoxide and ozone over Earth's northern hemisphere in February 1992 and 1993. These maps were produced by the Microwave Limb Sounder aboard the Upper Atmosphere Research Satellite. The chlorine monoxide (ClO) maps (left) are for a layer about 20 kilometers (66,000 feet) above the Earth's surface on February 17, 1992 (above) and 1993 (below). The ozone maps show the total amount above an altitude of about 12 kilometers (41,000 feet) averaged over the period from February 15 to March 6 for the two years. The Microwave Limb Sounder, developed and operated by a team at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, is one of several instruments on the Goddard Space Flight Center's Upper Atmosphere Research Satellite, launched in September 1991. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ozone93b.gif PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICE JET PROPULSION LABORATORY CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION PASADENA, CALIF. 91109. TELEPHONE (818) 354-5011 PHOTO CAPTION P-42211 April 14, 1993 This graphic depicts chlorine monoxide (ClO) and the Antarctic ozone hole. These maps, produced by the Microwave Limb Sounder aboard the Upper Atmosphere Research Satellite, show the amount of chlorine monoxide (left) and ozone (right) in the stratosphere at altitudes above 20 kilometers (66,000 feet). Very small abundances of ozone appear where there are large abundances of chlorine monoxide, the dominant form of chlorine that destroys ozone. Data from September 21, 1991 (top) are compared with those from September 20, 1992 (bottom). The Microwave Limb Sounder, developed and operated by a team at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, is one of several instruments on Goddard Space Flight Center's Upper Atmosphere Research Satellite launched September 12, 1991. ___ _____ ___ /_ /| /____/ \ /_ /| Ron Baalke | baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov | | | | __ \ /| | | | Jet Propulsion Lab | ___| | | | |__) |/ | | |__ M/S 525-3684 Telos | Being cynical never helps /___| | | | ___/ | |/__ /| Pasadena, CA 91109 | to correct the situation |_____|/ |_|/ |_____|/ | and causes more aggravation | instead. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 14:57:39 GMT From: Patrick Slavenburg Subject: Shuttle-C cost estimating Newsgroups: sci.space,talk.politics.space when I read the estimations pat mentions about the shuttle C I tend to get very nervous. I agree with the first write that you can use any accounting method you like to make your point. When I read only this and only that and a little bit more of that. It doesn't say me a thing. All I know is that they made all sorts of estimations at the beginning of the seventies. The shuttle was supposed to be 10 -100 times cheaper. 40 or more flights a year. What happened, even now the last two launches were postponed, and a payload costs as much with shuttle as witht eh old brick the saturn V mission did we win something with it ?? not really, After the skylab missions and the apollo soyoz american manned spaceflight has come to a hold till the first shuttle launch. Again the same thing happens with the space station.. apparently you either want it big.. to swashbuggle the oceans of space, or you don't want it at all. I say I'd bet my money on the russian space program any time (yes even now) they will cooperate with the ESA and with NASA as well. It's a lot wiser strategy and a lot more continuation odf manned space flight than the americans ever had. Jesus Christ couldn't NASA have come up with a very VERY modest space station to begin with.. instead of pushing its luck and redesigning it, and complaining all the redesigning costs so much ? I'm afraid that after Webb, in the 60 (thanks to him you had your pioneer and viayger missions !!!) there hasn't been one good nasa administrator. I would say stick to what you have now and plan some modest missions, at least you'll have money for pluriformity. Patrick slavenburg the netherlands ------------------------------ Date: 15 Apr 1993 17:08:31 GMT From: "Alan Monday-WWCS Business Mgt. Group" Subject: Solar Sail Data Newsgroups: sci.space Hey!? What happened to the solar sail race that was supposed to be for Columbus+500? In article 29848@news.duc.auburn.edu, snydefj@eng.auburn.edu (Frank J. Snyder) writes: > >I am looking for any information concerning projects involving Solar > Sails. I understand that the JPL did an extensive study on the subject > back in the late 70's but I am having trouble gathering such information. > >Are there any groups out there currently involved in such a project ? ------------------------------ Date: 15 Apr 1993 16:46 UT From: Ron Baalke Subject: Some Recent Observations by Hubble Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.astro,alt.sci.planetary Here are some recent observations taken by the Hubble Space Telescope: o The Faint Object Spectrograph (FOS) was used to make ultraviolet observations of both the planet Pluto, and its moon Charon. The peakups were successful. The observations were executed as scheduled, and no problems were reported. o Observations were made using the High Speed Photometer of the Planet Uranus during an occultation by a faint star in Capricornus. These observations will help in our understanding of the planet's atmospheric radiative and dynamical processes. This event occurred close to the last quarter moon, and special arrangements had to be made to modify the lunar limit tests to allow these observations. The observations are currently being reviewed, and all the observations looked okay. ___ _____ ___ /_ /| /____/ \ /_ /| Ron Baalke | baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov | | | | __ \ /| | | | Jet Propulsion Lab | ___| | | | |__) |/ | | |__ M/S 525-3684 Telos | Being cynical never helps /___| | | | ___/ | |/__ /| Pasadena, CA 91109 | to correct the situation |_____|/ |_|/ |_____|/ | and causes more aggravation | instead. ------------------------------ Date: 15 Apr 93 08:42:14 -0500 From: wrporter@indyvax.iupui.edu Subject: Soviet Space Book Newsgroups: sci.space From what I've heard is that Aerospace Ambassdores are no longer answering their phones. So people who have sent them money are out of luck. In fact they owe folks money from the aborted China trip. I can't wait to hear the story at National next month at Huntsvile. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 08:25:20 GMT From: Robert Jones Subject: The Legislative Intent of the Hatch Act Newsgroups: sci.space,talk.politics.space jim@pnet01.cts.com (Jim Bowery) writes: >... >Proper interpretation and enforcement the Hatch Act by the judicial >and executive branches of the federal government could reverse our >downward spiral without any intervention by the Congress... Well said. I'd like to add that the *spirit* of the Hatch Act should be understood by every American, and especially by government workers and contractors, and by anyone around the world who values freedom. P.R. and lobbying for other people's involuntarily obtained (tax) money is fundamentally different than advertising for voluntarily given donations or purchases of a service. "Investment" and other buzzwords recently borrowed from the private sector *do not* mean the same thing when used to refer to government projects; not even close. Political lobbying for tax funds carries, or at least should carry in any ethical person, a much heavier moral weight. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1993 14:10:51 EDT From: horannsr@shanon.NMSU.Edu Subject: Toys in Space NASA does have an official Toys In Space program. The latest version was flown on the January Shuttle flight. Presently, there is a video of the previous Toys in Space "payload" available from NASA. This can be gotten from a NASA Teacher Resource Center. It is also available from companies that market NASA videos. The New Mexico Space Grant Consortium can also tell you how to put together a kit to accompany the Toys in Space video. This kit is aimed at grade schoolers. NMSGC can probably send you a copy of the NASA video in exchange for a blank one. Send your request to nmsgc@gauss.nmsu.edu. Stephen Horan, Director, NMSGC shoran@nmsu.edu ------------------------------ Date: 15 Apr 1993 15:12:10 GMT From: CLAUDIO OLIVEIRA EGALON Subject: Vulcan? No, not Spock or Haphaestus Newsgroups: sci.space > Another legend with the name Vulcan was the planet, much like Earth, > in the same orbit There was a Science fiction movie sometime ago (I do not remember its name) about a planet in the same orbit of Earth but hidden behind the Sun so it could never be visible from Earth. Turns out that that planet was the exact mirror image of Earth and all its inhabitants looked like the Earthings with the difference that their organs was in the opposite side like the heart was in the right side instead in the left and they would shake hands with the left hand and so on... C.O.EGALON@LARC.NASA.GOV C.O.Egalon@larc.nasa.gov Claudio Oliveira Egalon ------------------------------ Date: 15 Apr 1993 09:40 EST From: "David B. Mckissock" Subject: What were "the other things"? Newsgroups: sci.space In article , finlayson@cs.stanford.edu (Ross Finlayson) writes... >Visiting the Kennedy Space Center recently, I got to hear once again a tape >of President Kennedy's now-famous call for a manned lunar landing by the >end of the 1960s. Later on in his speech, Kennedy says (quoting roughly): > >"We aim to put a man on the moon in this decade and do the other things, >not because they are easy, but because they are hard!" > >Question: What were "the other things" that Kennedy referred to? I presume >that these were other goals (in addition to the moon landing) that he had >proposed earlier in the same speech. Can anyone remember what these were? > > Ross. On March 25 & 26, I attended a conference at The American University on "Presidential Leadership, Congress, and the U.S. Space Program." One of the speakers was Eileen Galloway (spelling?). She has been involved in Space Policy for decades (she helped write the the NASA charter). In commenting on a paper presented at the conference, she said that in assessing Kennedy's space program, one can't just focus on the Apollo program, but rather must also look at the three other goals outlined in Kennedy's famous speech to Congress. She listed the four goals as: 1) Apollo 2) Nuclear Rocket 3) Communications 4) Weather observation ------------------------------ Date: 15 Apr 1993 10:44:01 -0400 From: Pat Subject: What were "the other things"? Newsgroups: sci.space Didn't kennedy's original speech also include Mars landing and a permanent moon base? pat ------------------------------ End of Space Digest Volume 16 : Issue 462 ------------------------------