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The product is scheduled to be released on July 20, 1990. 199 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 1 Wed Jul 11, 1990 J.EIDSVOOG1 at 07:34 PDT You can find a demo file for LookIt! & PopIt! in the GEnie library, file #15719. There is also a press release describing the features of these new products called LP_PRESS.TXT, file #15720. LookIt is "The ultimate ST file viewer/binary editor". It's blindingly fast and easy to use, featuring a custom user interface that Doug Harrison (its author) has developed. PopIt is a desk accessory that lets you assign "hot keys" to your desk accessories (including those in MultiDesk) and call them up simply by typing a key. Check out the demo or just order LookIt! & PopIt! simply because you know that it's a CodeHead product worthy of its position in the CodeHead line. ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 2 Mon Dec 09, 1991 E.KRIMEN [Ed Krimen] at 03:30 EST Charles & John, How much is the upgrade to the latest version? I'd like to send in my payment with my transfer-of-ownership letter. Is there another update planned soon? ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 3 Mon Dec 09, 1991 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 13:09 EST The current versions are Lookit 1.2 and PopIt 1.1. The update price is $10 (send in your original disk). We've talked to Doug about an update to PopIt to allow more than 32 ACCs (since MDD now allows 96) but there's no release date set yet. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 4 Sun Dec 29, 1991 SFRT-ASST [Ken] at 15:06 EST Is it possible to have a radio button in the "save block" dialog that will save the block to the GEM clipboard? I'm beginning to use the clipboard more and more. Or course LookIt would have to save the Clipboard path somewhere too. ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 5 Tue Dec 31, 1991 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 13:24 EST I've just received an imcompatibility report with K-Graph. Apparently if REGACC and PopIt are installed (and nothing else), it affects K-Graph. The objects are "frozen" in place and can't be moved (dragged) with the mouse. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Does anyone else even have K-Graph? I'd like to find out why this is happening. Ken, The clipboard path is always (usually?) in the root directory of the current drive. You could manually save your block to \SCRAP.TXT if you don't want to wait for this feature to be added to LookIt. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 6 Tue Dec 31, 1991 SFRT-ASST [Kene @ SFRT] at 15:06 EST That's what I've been doing. I use "append bo clipboard" a lot in Steno. I have K-graph. I picked it up at the Glendale Show for with loose (folding) change. What's the crash sequence? ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 7 Wed Jan 01, 1992 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 13:50 EST Ken, The report is not a crash. With PopIt (and REGACC) installed the K-Graph objects become unmovable on the screen with the mouse. Let me know if you have the same results. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 8 Wed Jan 01, 1992 SFRT-ASST [Kene @ SFRT] at 16:32 EST Okay, are the "usual suspects" Turbo ST, Pinhead, LGS, and Hotwire (along with their auto folder minions) active? I'll try it as soon as I log off. Wait! I can do it now. The icons on the K- graph desktop did NOT move. I'll have to reboot and clear the system for the other. My online connections don't survive that all the time. Ate logo. (Obrigado!) ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 9 Wed Jan 01, 1992 SFRT-ASST [Kene @ SFRT] at 16:59 EST I confirm the report, John. I even removed MDD from the set-up to insure that no garbage ACCs in there were conflicting with K-Graph, REGACC, and PopIt. The k-graph desktop icons would not move. If you have any other questions feel free to ask. Oh! Mega STE, TOS 2.05, Auto folder stripped down to folderXXX, deskmanager, serpach. ACCessories stripped down to Maxifile. ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 10 Thu Jan 02, 1992 SFRT-ASST [Kene @ SFRT] at 00:19 EST With further checking I've found that the problem DOESN'T exist if REGACC is run and PopIt is NOT installed. ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 11 Thu Jan 02, 1992 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 11:12 EST Ken, Thanks for confirming this. That matches exactly the results of the gentleman reporting the problem. My only other question for you is "why is this happening and how can we fix it?" Well OK, that's two questions. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 12 Thu Jan 02, 1992 SFRT-ASST [Kene @ SFRT] at 14:43 EST I haven't used Captain Hook. Should I? I'll download the file in a couple of minutes. ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 13 Sun Jan 05, 1992 J.MOSES2 [moses] at 17:24 EST what's k-graph? ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 15 Sat Feb 29, 1992 M.SQUIRE [Mike] at 14:29 EST Codeheads, I recently placed CodeHead Ed in my MultiDesk Deluxe (v3.3) MULTDESK.MDX folder and, as a result, it now is available as a non-resident desk accessory on my system. However, when I went to use PopIt (v1.1) to assign a Hot key sequence to Codehead Ed, it was not listed along with the other desk accessories that were available. Thinking that the problem was that REGACC.PRG hadn't seen the new CodeHead Ed desk accessory when I booted, I rebooted my system, but CodeHead Ed still was not in PopIt's list of desk accessories. Thinking that I might have a corrupted POPIT.CFG file in my root directory, I deleted the old one, rebooted, and recreated that file from scratch. Still no CodeHead Ed in PopIt. My question is this: can I use PopIt to assign a hot-key combination to call up CodeHead Ed or can I only use the CALL_ED.PRG program in conjunction with HotWire to create a hot-key to do this? ... Mike Squire ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 16 Sat Feb 29, 1992 C.F.JOHNSON [CodeHead] at 14:47 EST Mike, The problem is that the current version of PopIt! is limited to 32 accessories. PopIt! just stops looking inside MultiDesk as soon as it finds 32 DAs (resident or nonresident), and I'd venture to guess that when you added CodeHead ED to your MDX folder it ended up further down the list than that. One way to get around this (until there's an update to PopIt! that increases the limit) is to reorder your MDX folder, by creating a new MDX folder, then copying the accessories into it so that the ones to which you want to assign hot keys are among the first 32. When MDD searches the MDX folder, it finds the DAs in the order they were copied into it. Note that PopIt! will find the resident accessories first, so the limit on hot-key-assignable nonresident DAs will actually be 32 minus the number of resident DAs. - Charles ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 17 Sat Feb 29, 1992 E.KRIMEN [Ed Krimen] at 23:18 EST Charles and Mike, There are a couple of utilities for re-ordering files in folders (not just the AUTO folder), if you don't want to create a duplicate folder. One is called FOLDRSRT and the other is NeoDesk. ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 18 Wed Mar 04, 1992 M.SQUIRE [Mike] at 18:43 EST Charles, Thanks for explaining what's causing my problem. Your suggestion would be easy enough to implement if the problem becomes significant. Does Doug Harrison have any plans to offer a new version of PopIt that fixes this and the problem with XControl Panel CPX's (such as ICD's ADSCSI.CPX) disinstalling PopIt? ... Mike Squire ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 19 Thu Mar 05, 1992 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 12:53 EST We are currently discussing the updating of PopIt with Doug, to allow up to 96 (101?) hot keys for accessories. As for the XControl problem, we'll look into it, but I'm not sure if it's something that can be fixed in PopIt. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 20 Thu Mar 26, 1992 H.WOOTAN [Harry] at 23:09 EST How much to upgrade LookIt&PopIt from 1.1/1.0 to 1.2/1.1 (or whatever might be even later)? I found that PopIt doesn't see ACC's that are in their own folders within the MDD folder. I assume that's the type of ACC access that was corrected with that upgrade of PopIt. (I'm sure it's been addressed here.) -- Harry ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 21 Fri Mar 27, 1992 J.ENOS [JENOS] at 01:10 EST I have a problem with PopIt! and REGACC. When they are active K-Graph3 "text" is UNMOVABLE. I can create text, but it can't be moved. ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 22 Fri Mar 27, 1992 M.MOTOGAWA [MEL] at 01:53 EST Harry, Right now I have two acc's nested in their own folders (named after the acc's.), and PopIt 'sees' them alright and can call 'em up as mdx's. But if you eventually add too many mdx's to your MDD folder, nested or not, some will start working their way off your PopIt list. I forgot right now what the upper limit is, that PopIt can display. I'm using PopIt 1.1. JENOS, I seem to recall a long time ago that someone mentioned this sort of problem, but I can't remember what tsr/acc. was causing the conflict. I'll let John or Charles answer that one. Thanks! - Mel ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 23 Fri Mar 27, 1992 MUSE [Tomas] at 03:38 EST Harry, Send $10.00 and you original disk for the upgrade, and tell me Tomas sent you. ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 24 Fri Mar 27, 1992 H.WOOTAN [Harry] at 08:18 EST Thanks, Tomas. +++ Mel -- My PopIt is 1.0. 1.1 is what I need to get. Thanks. -- Harry ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 25 Fri May 08, 1992 A.CASSINO [Andy] at 00:03 EDT I'm having a bit of trouble with PopIt. Here's the set-up. I'm using HotWire, MaxiFile, ArcShell and PopIt (all latest versions). I have it set up so that .LZH and .ARC files are documents for ArcShell. So, I often double-click on such a 'document' from within MaxiFile in order to call up ArcShell to de-arc or list the archive contents. A slick way to do business. The problem is, this only works if MaxiFile was called up by clicking on the MaxiFile icon in HotWire. If I call up MaxiFile by using the hotkey defined in PopIt, ArcShell will not get called when I double-click on an LZH or ARC file. Instead, I get the file information/modification dialog for the file. Lessee, what else do you need to know... this is TOS 1.4 and, MaxiFile is being run as a regular DA (not in MultiDesk). I hope there's a fix or work-around for this! Andy Cassino ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 26 Fri May 08, 1992 C.F.JOHNSON [CodeHead] at 00:48 EDT Andy, That isn't a problem; that's the way it's supposed to work. MaxiFile needs to be called by clicking its icon (or typing F10 from the HotWire menu) in order to launch programs or documents. This is how MaxiFile knows it can pass the message back to HotWire, telling it to run the requested program. - Charles ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 27 Fri May 08, 1992 NTACTONE [Ron Hunter] at 06:45 EDT Andy, That's just the way it works. If you call MaxiFile from any place other than HotWire, then it won't tell HotWire about the call, and HotWire is not in the execution chain. You will also find that you can't run programs from MaxiFile when you call it through LGS. I don't know if it is possible for Charles to make either of these things work, but I would also like to be able to do both of these things. I guess there have to be SOME limits to what these programs can do.... ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 28 Fri May 08, 1992 SFRT-ASST [Kene @ SFRT] at 14:53 EDT It's far too dangerous for us mere mortals already! There are some things in heaven, hell, and GEnie (software) that were aren't meant to know or do! ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 29 Sat May 09, 1992 A.CASSINO [Andy] at 00:07 EDT Charles, Ron, Well, of course! (...jeez, that HotWire manual doesn't *look* like it's collecting dust...) Why didn't *I* think of that? (...I simply *must* make time for my CodeHead Osmosis Therapy... or does that only work for programs that come with with three-ring manuals...yikes...) Thanks for reminding me! (...man, there's so many goldurn' features in these CodeHead programs I'm starting to get stressed, wondering if I'm *missing* something...) See ya later, Andy ps. :-) :-) :-) ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 30 Sat Jun 06, 1992 J.WISNIEWSK2 [Jeff - ST'er] at 07:25 EDT Is there any chance in the next upgrade for lookit (if there is going to be one) that it can be installed as a Desk Accessory and/or in the Auto folder?. Thanks. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^ JSW ^^^^ ^^^^ ST'er ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 31 Sat Jun 06, 1992 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 14:38 EDT Jeff, We've talked about making LookIt resident (as an ACC or AUTO program), but it just doesn't seem worth the 170K+ that is eaten up by the program. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 32 Sat Jun 06, 1992 J.WISNIEWSK2 [Jeff - ST'er] at 19:23 EDT John, I was only suggesting it because I had a big need for it while I was in Aladdin, I needed to search several big text files with several keywords each. Personally I would not care about using the extra memory... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^ JSW ^^^^ ^^^^ ST'er ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 33 Sat Jun 06, 1992 E.KRIMEN [Ed Krimen] at 21:54 EDT John, LookIt loaded as an MDX would be nice. If you removed all the fancy drop-down menus and buttons, would that reduce the size of the program much, or is that stuff negligible? While we're at it, any news on a new version of PopIt that would increase the number of desk accessories it recognizes? ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 34 Sun Jun 07, 1992 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 13:46 EDT Jeff, I thought you were a MaxiFile owner. It has an excellent search routine for text files. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 35 Sun Jun 07, 1992 OUTRIDER [Terry @ T2] at 15:20 EDT In fact, I wish I could load a text file into MaxiFile's viewer via command line. :^) I prefer it to LookIt! for simple file viewing and string searching, though LookIt! can certainly do many things that MaxiFile cannot. ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 36 Sun Jun 07, 1992 J.WISNIEWSK2 [Jeff - ST'er] at 17:20 EDT John, Actually I am a MaxiFile owner. And that thought never occured to me at all. Sorry and thanks for reminding me again. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^ JSW ^^^^ ^^^^ ST'er ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 37 Sun Jun 07, 1992 A.CASSINO [Andy] at 17:57 EDT Is there a way to make Lookit! search backwards thru a file? I can't find any mention in the manual... Andy Cassino ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 38 Sun Jun 07, 1992 SFRT-ASST [Kene @ SFRT] at 19:58 EDT Wow! It didn't occur to you even after A LOT of us begged the CODEHEADS to improve the text viewing functions? I nagged them personally for a year. "Please, please, please, give us backwards viewing." Maxifile is almost perfect now. The only thing it needs is a way to see the size of all the folders at once. (and maybe a different program that shows a file tree..) Okay, and write the directory to SCRAP.TXT... What we REALLY need is a multitasking OS... ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 39 Tue Jun 16, 1992 J.WISNIEWSK2 [Jeff - ST'er] at 21:25 EDT Just a quick suggestion for Look-It. When doing a search and it has highlighted the search word, have the ability to scroll up/down a few lines. Thanks. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^ JSW ^^^^ ^^^^ ST'er ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 40 Tue Jun 16, 1992 A.CASSINO [Andy] at 22:29 EDT Um, I asked a Q. a couple of weeks ago and have missed the answer if there was one. Is there any way to do a reverse search in a file with LookIt? Andy Cassino ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 41 Wed Jun 17, 1992 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 01:10 EDT Andy, There's no way to do a reverse search in LookIt. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 42 Wed Jun 17, 1992 CODEHEAD [Charles] at 01:27 EDT Andy, Nope, sorry ... LookIt! can't search backwards. MaxiFile III can, though. - Charles @ CodeHead Tech Tuesday, June 16, 1992 10:24 pm ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 43 Mon Jun 29, 1992 J.WISNIEWSK2 [Jeff - ST'er] at 00:26 EDT CodeHeads, I have version 1.2 of Lookit!, TOS 2.06, and I have Look-It installed (from the desktop, not HotWire) so it will load when I click on a text file. One thing that I have noticed is after I do that and I am at the Look-It screen going to loading another file, it will not show me any files until I click on one of the extensions. Shouldn't Look-It already have one of the extensions highlited?. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^ JSW ^^^^ ^^^^ ST'er ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 44 Mon Jun 29, 1992 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 18:16 EDT Jeff, It sounds like something is wrong with your "Install Application" for LookIt. Double-check it. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 45 Mon Jun 29, 1992 J.WISNIEWSK2 [Jeff - ST'er] at 19:01 EDT John, Look-It works fine. But I get tired of having to click on a extension to see the files, it currently displays no files in the directory window. This is only after I load in the first file (by double-clicking on the text file from the desktop) and try to load in the next file... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^ JSW ^^^^ ^^^^ ST'er ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 46 Mon Jun 29, 1992 SFRT-ASST [Kene @ SFRT] at 19:48 EDT It sounds like you don't have "*.*" installed as an extension. ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 47 Mon Jun 29, 1992 J.WISNIEWSK2 [Jeff - ST'er] at 21:50 EDT Kene, I am past that part, I am all ready in Look-It when this happens and sometimes I forget and think that there are no more files in that directory. Let me try to explain it again. Look-It is installed as a application with the following extensions: TXT, DOC, ASC, ME. I click on one of those files and it goes into Look-It great. While in Look-It, I leave that file and go to Look-It's menu. I go to open another file (without leaving Look-It) and it shows no files, I have to click on a extension to see any files at all in the directory window. It is not a major problem, just annoying. If you install Look-It as a application with *.* as a extension and click on a program file, Look-It goes into hex mode instead of running the program... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^ JSW ^^^^ ^^^^ ST'er ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 48 Tue Jun 30, 1992 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 04:53 EDT Jeff, Run LookIt, bring up the file selector (using "Open"), and select the extension you desire, such a "*". While you're at it, make sure you've got your desired sort option chosen (such as "N" for Name). Exit from the file selector and "Save" your configuration. Saving your configuration allows you to configure various aspects of the program to your own preferences. Perhaps you previously saved your config with a little-used extension such as "C". If you want to install LookIt for a wild card extension ("*"), please read the README file. It details exactly how to do this. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 49 Thu Jul 23, 1992 H.WOOTAN [Harry] at 21:15 EDT I just upgraded LookIt/PopIt to 1.2/1.1. I thought this one remedied PopIt's problem of not finding ACC's inside folders that are themselves inside the MULTDESK.MDX folder. I think PopIt _IS_ finding them .... well, some of them. It appears (1) that PopIt is limited to 28 non-resident ACC's and (2) that PopIt possibly begins it's search for the 28 ACC's by looking FIRST for those ACC's that are files within MULTDESK.MDX and THEN looking inside MULTDESK.MDX for FOLDERS containing ACC's. On top of that, it even seems that the folders are taken alphabetically instead of in the order they were created. Is the limit of 28 accurate? Or am I doing something wrong? Is the "files then folders" process accurate? I had to move one ACC outside it's folder so I could assign it a PopIt Hotkey. No trouble after that, though. -- Harry ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 50 Thu Jul 23, 1992 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 22:38 EDT Harry, PopIt has always had a limit of 32 ACCs at any one time. It will only see the first 32 that are loaded (including those outside of MultiDesk and MDD itself). John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 51 Fri Jul 24, 1992 H.WOOTAN [Harry] at 08:50 EDT John, PopIt shows me 38 ACC's. That's 10 from my root directory (named either .ACC or .ACX) and 28 from my MDD folder. Hmm-m-m. That's actually the 6 that the system recognized (including PopIt and MDD) +PLUS+ 32 (of the 43) that MDD is handling. I just wanted to be able to access a particular non-res ACC via a PopIt Hotkey combo. But that ACC is in its own folder inside the MDD folder. So, it wouldn't show up in PopIt. My workaround was to move it out of its folder and put it high enough among the other MDD ACC's so PopIt would get it. +++ Am I overlooking a way to keep certain ACC's from showing up in PopIt? I have quite a few that I wouldn't mind getting out of there. That'd leave plenty of room for additional ones. Maybe a file like MDD's .MLT files. It could list specific files that PopIt would _ignore_ at bootup. -- Harry ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 52 Fri Jul 24, 1992 TQUINN [Terry~Sysop] at 10:38 EDT I just acquired LookIt! & PopIt! from Bill Nottingham and I find there isn't any card with the Documentation although it looks as if he never really used it (sealed envelope, etc.). Is there any way I could register it? ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 53 Fri Jul 24, 1992 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 23:23 EDT Harry, I'm not sure but the order of the MDXs in TITLES.MDX might affect how many are available through PopIt. Terry, Reregistering one of our products is equivalent to upgrading it ($10 for LookIt & PopIt). If you've got the lastest versions (1.2/1.1), you may want to just wait until a possible future version appears. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 54 Sat Jul 25, 1992 N.B.GARDNER [BRUCE] at 22:28 EDT Does Lookit work as an installed program from the desktop? I have been using DC Shower, but when I recieved TOS 2.06, it no longer works correctly, so I in search of a good text file viewer. ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 55 Sun Jul 26, 1992 J.WISNIEWSK2 [Jeff - ST'er] at 11:23 EDT Bruce, Yes, Look-It does work as a installed program from the desktop. It works very well... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^ JSW ^^^^ ^^^^ ST'er ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 56 Sun Jul 26, 1992 J.WHITCOMB3 at 21:13 EDT I love Lookit, but I am one of those who wants to stick with my favorite file selector (LGFS) rather than use Lookit's. Would it be possible for the next version of Lookit to either call MaxiFile directly or allow selection of multiple files using MaxiFile via LGFS? -Jonathan ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 57 Mon Jul 27, 1992 J.WISNIEWSK2 [Jeff - ST'er] at 00:35 EDT Jonathan, Actually you can select the file selector between Lookit's or what is installed normally. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^ JSW ^^^^ ^^^^ ST'er ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 58 Mon Jul 27, 1992 N.B.GARDNER [BRUCE] at 01:00 EDT Thanks, again Jeff. ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 59 Mon Jul 27, 1992 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 12:24 EDT Bruce, Yes, LookIt can be installed as a "catch-all" installed program in any DESKTOP.INF or NEWDESK.INF GEM desktop system on any TOS. The README file tells you how to do this. Once installed this way, it will be called whenever there are no other installed applications for the document's extension (replace the "Show/Print/Cancel" box). This is definitely the best way for a file shower/viewer to be installed because it takes _no_ memory until it is called. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 60 Mon Jul 27, 1992 J.WISNIEWSK2 [Jeff - ST'er] at 18:15 EDT CodeHeads, I have another suggestion for Look-It. The ability to click on one of the items on the help-screen, which would take yu back to the document and allow you to do what you clicked on... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^ JSW ^^^^ ^^^^ ST'er ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 61 Mon Jul 27, 1992 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 20:18 EDT Jonathan, Select the Screen item from the Options menu, then turn off "Custom File Selector". Save your configuration and you'll always use the currently installed file selector. I use LookIt this way myself, with the Little Green Selector. I believe Charles uses the LookIt selector. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 62 Mon Jul 27, 1992 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 21:00 EDT OK Jeff, thanks for the suggestion. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 63 Tue Jul 28, 1992 NTACTONE [Ron Hunter] at 04:31 EDT John, True, but the 'downside' of that is that you have to wait for the shower/viewer to LOAD, which may be a while, from cassette, or a slow HD. But then *I* use MaxiFile, as long as the file is ASCII, and I don't need to SEE the CR/LFs. ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 64 Tue Jul 28, 1992 OUTRIDER [Terry] at 06:15 EDT Cassette? Anyone using a cassette with their ST? I didn't even know they existed! ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 65 Tue Jul 28, 1992 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 13:44 EDT Yes, I suppose some people have to wait two seconds instead of one second, depending on the speed of their drives. I wouldn't recommend installing LookIt on a floppy system. As for cassette, yeah that's a good one. :^) I'd certainly rather wait a second John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 66 Tue Jul 28, 1992 NTACTONE [Ron Hunter] at 20:08 EDT Terry, I have, with ST Replay. Grin. ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 67 Wed Jul 29, 1992 J.SAFFER [JASON SAFFER] at 02:16 EDT John, you mentioned that LookIt can be installed as a catch all installed program in order to be able to doubleclick on a text file and then use LookIt in place of the desktop's viewer. You mention a README file that describes this. What README file exactly to you mean? LookIt's or TOS 2.06's (which I can't find)? I made LookIt an installed app but it then runs everything I click on including the Aladdin icon that I have on the regular desktop. Can you be more specific about how to set this feature up. Also, I notice that it runs LookIt and I then have to actually EXIT LookIt when I'm done viewing. This seems more cumbersome than Maxi's view feature, for example. Comments? - Jason Saffer Hercules, California Monday, July 27, 1992 11:42 pm ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 68 Wed Jul 29, 1992 OUTRIDER [Terry] at 10:43 EDT Jason, The README file John referred to is on your LOOKIT disk. As for exiting when done viewing, a ^Q exits from view mode right back to HotWire or the desktop. Perhaps RTFM is in order. ;^) - Terry - ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 69 Wed Jul 29, 1992 J.WISNIEWSK2 [Jeff - ST'er] at 18:49 EDT Jason, Actually the README file is on your Look-It disk where is explains in full how to get it installed to work correctly. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^ JSW ^^^^ ^^^^ ST'er ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 70 Wed Jul 29, 1992 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 21:57 EDT Jason, As Terry mentioned, the README is on your LookIt disk. As for MaxiFile's convenience for viewing files, I agree. I use MaxiFile's viewer more than LookIt. But the question was asked about installing LookIt in the GEM desktop. For those not using MaxiFile or HotWire, this is a very strong option. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 71 Sun Aug 02, 1992 J.WHITCOMB3 at 13:34 EDT John, Thanks for your reply...I must not have phrased my question well enough. I've used LGFS since day one with Lookit! The drawback is that you can only select one file at a time with LGFS. I know that you can then call Maxifile from LGFS, but you can still only pass one file back to Lookit. What I'd like to see is a method of allowing Maxifile to select multiple files to pass to Lookit in one shot. I'm not sure if this could be done throught the file selector interface, but perhaps a direct call to Maxifile (ala ArcShell) would work? -Jonathan ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 72 Thu Aug 06, 1992 E.KRIMEN [Ed Krimen] at 21:19 EDT LookIt doesn't work in TT medium, does it? ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 73 Fri Aug 07, 1992 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 20:43 EDT Ed, LookIt works on all machines and in any resolution providing 80 columns or greater. What sort of problem are you having? John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 74 Sat Aug 08, 1992 E.KRIMEN [Ed Krimen] at 00:56 EDT John, I just double-checked the problem on my system with virtually nothing loaded, just to make sure it wasn't something else in there that was conflicting and I was wasting your time. :^) The problem is that the drop-down menu gets scrambled on my 8meg TT with TOS 3.06 with nothing loaded but XBoot and ICDBOOT 5.6.1. The drop-down menu looks something like this: D F O e i p s l t k e i o n s ...etc. I think you get the idea. :^) All the items under those menus have the same sloping effect. I haven't tried to do anything further than that. ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 75 Sat Aug 08, 1992 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 14:24 EDT Ed, It seems that's a symptom of version 1.0 of Lookit (I thought all versions were TT-compatible but I guess not). The current version is 1.2 (and PopIt 1.1). The update price is $10 plus original disk. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 76 Mon Aug 10, 1992 J.GNIEWKOWSK [GE-Lamp ST] at 18:36 EDT John or Charles, I've recently purchased a used copy of LookIt and PopIt (v1.2) and am having a problem with PopIt. Here goes: I have REGACC.PRG as the last program to run in my AUTO folder. Since the manual didn't specify that its order was important, I guess it's okay where it is. My problem is that I can call an accessory once, and then it will ignore any further calls _until_ I run a program (any program), then I can use my hotkeys _once_ again. What do you think is up? John E. Gniewkowski GEnieLamp ST Co-Editor Sunday, August 9, 1992 -- 11:21:08 pm ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 77 Tue Aug 11, 1992 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 06:51 EDT John, It sounds like you've got a conflicting program or accessory. Try removing things selectively until you determine the cause. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 78 Wed Aug 12, 1992 J.GNIEWKOWSK [GE-Lamp ST] at 01:48 EDT John, I'll give it a shot. I have narrowed it down to only non-resident MultiDesk accessories. You're probably right about the conflicting program... John E. Gniewkowski GEnieLamp ST Co-Editor Tuesday, August 11, 1992 -- 11:37:58 pm ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 79 Wed Aug 19, 1992 J.WISNIEWSK2 [Jeff - ST'er] at 07:45 EDT CodeHeads, Here is something that I found with Look-It. I have it set up to display all files (*.*). When I load up Look-It, it will not display all files that have no extension unless I click on the asterick. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^ JSW ^^^^ ^^^^ ST'er ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 80 Wed Aug 19, 1992 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 10:20 EDT Jeff, What version of LookIt do you have? John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 81 Wed Aug 19, 1992 J.WISNIEWSK2 [Jeff - ST'er] at 20:50 EDT John, I have the latest version (1.11 - I think). I noticed that it sees all files when I do not have a extension selected, but with a '*' it does not always show all the files. I only found this out because I had to re-install it today, it got messed up while I was beta-testing some software. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^ JSW ^^^^ ^^^^ ST'er ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 82 Thu Aug 20, 1992 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 04:16 EDT Jeff, If you'll look at the directory line, you'll probably see "*.*" on the end of it. LookIt treats this template in a different way. It will only show files with characters before _and_ after the period. When you change the template to "*" it will show all files. After doing this, just save your configuration and you won't have the problem any more. If you choose not to "Use Custom File Selector", you'll have to do the reverse; use the template "*.*". John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 83 Thu Aug 20, 1992 J.WISNIEWSK2 [Jeff - ST'er] at 18:59 EDT John, Actually I did have the custom file selector and it was set to '*', my mistake when I said '*.*'. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^ JSW ^^^^ ^^^^ ST'er ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 84 Thu Aug 20, 1992 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 20:32 EDT Jeff, Are you saying that LookIt's file selector has a single asterisk at the end of the "Path:" line at the top of the selector, but it's not showing files without an extension? That can't be. I think you better check again. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 85 Thu Sep 24, 1992 J.WISNIEWSK2 [Jeff - ST'er] at 18:15 EDT CodeHeads, Here is something that I noticed when running Look-It, I have a window open, and I am in a folder. I run Look-It and view a file that is in the open folder, I quit Look-It and the window shows the root directory of the drive and not the contents of the folder. Also when I run another program right after that, I end up going to HotWire. I am running TOS 2.06, HotWire version 3 and Look-It version 1.1 which is installed as a application and as a icon on the desktop. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^ JSW ^^^^ ^^^^ ST'er ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Thursday September 24th 1992 01:21 am ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 86 Fri Sep 25, 1992 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 19:03 EDT Jeff, Make sure you've run TT_INST.PRG on _all_ your NEWDESK.INF files. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 87 Sat Sep 26, 1992 J.WISNIEWSK2 [Jeff - ST'er] at 07:00 EDT John, I did run TT_INST.PRG on all my NEWDESK.INF files. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^ JSW ^^^^ ^^^^ ST'er ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Saturday September 26th 1992 06:53 am ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 88 Sat Sep 26, 1992 J.WISNIEWSK2 [Jeff - ST'er] at 07:54 EDT John, After playing around with it a little more, the open directory window only shows the root directory when I use the mouse to quit Look-It. I hit both buttons to get to Look-It's main screen, then quit under the file menu. This does not happen when I quit using -Q. And HotWire activates when I run a program from the desktop or a open window, instead of the program running. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^ JSW ^^^^ ^^^^ ST'er ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Saturday September 26th 1992 07:51 am ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 89 Sat Sep 26, 1992 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 14:51 EDT Jeff, How are invoking LookIt? If it's from the TOS 2.06 desktop, there are settings which will affect the "default" directory. These are set from the "Desktop Configuration..." option, or from "Install Application", depending on how you are running the program. If you're returning to a different directory than you started from, you have something else interfering or configured wrong. It has nothing to do with LookIt. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 90 Tue Oct 06, 1992 J.WILSON103 [John] at 23:19 EDT Ok gang, I would like someones pointer(s) on the use of Popit. I have the general thrust of the program, but know I am not using it the way I should. I have my basic six accessories in the root of 'c', one of them is Popit. So...when I call Popit from the desk drop down menu, I have the same six accessories, and they work if I click on them. In my mind, I should be able to load 'all' my accessories into Popit. I happen to have all excess accessories on my 'E' partition, and I assume I can direct Popit over there. I sure do not see how. I will accept any/all coaching. If the answer is too trivial, feel free to e-mail me, and thanks in advance. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 91 Wed Oct 07, 1992 MUSE [Tomas] at 01:30 EDT John, PopIt! will give you all ACCs on the root of C: and a limited number of the ACCs loaded into MultiDesk. If you want to see more than six, you have to have MultiDesk Deluxe. ===Tomas=== October 06, 1992 @ 21:38:06 pm PDT ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 92 Wed Oct 07, 1992 J.WILSON103 [John] at 19:54 EDT >John, > PopIt! will give you all ACCs on the root of C: and a limited number of the >ACCs loaded into MultiDesk. If you want to see more than six, you have to >have MultiDesk Deluxe. > ===Tomas=== > October 06, 1992 @ 21:38:06 pm PDT >---------- Muse, I tried a little experiment and included MORE than six accessories in the root of 'c'. I still only showed the six that load when I called the drop down menu of PopIt. I do have MDD, and will git the manuals out agin...sigh..not enough hours in the day. Thanks for the input. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 93 Wed Oct 07, 1992 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 20:21 EDT John, The GEM desktop has a limit of six accessories. Placing more than six in the root of C will not change this limit. The desktop will just load the first six it finds. If you want to use more than six, you'll need MultiDesk. Then you'll have no limit. PopIt allows you to pop up any installed accessory with a hot key, whether it is in the main drop-down menu or within MultiDesk. Up to 30 hot keys may be active at any one time. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 94 Thu Oct 08, 1992 J.WILSON103 [John] at 19:25 EDT >John, > >The GEM desktop has a limit of six accessories. Placing more than six in the >root of C will not change this limit. The desktop will just load the first >six it finds. If you want to use more than six, you'll need MultiDesk. Then >you'll have no limit. PopIt allows you to pop up any installed accessory with Thanks John, I DO have MultiDesk Deluxe, and I finally figured it out. And once agin....dem dang CodeHeads are gooooooooood!!! I like Popit! John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 95 Sat Oct 10, 1992 W.DAVIS20 [Bill] at 06:32 EDT ummm! Sounds like a nice little program. How much is it? Bill Davis ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 96 Sat Oct 10, 1992 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 08:16 EDT Bill, PopIt comes with LookIt and the package lists for $39.95. Our WAACE show price is too low to advertise! John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 97 Sat Nov 07, 1992 D.D.MARTIN [Swampy] at 10:21 EST Hi Codeheads! Well, I finally took the time to install PopIt since purchasing it at the WAACE show. I can't get it to work. ARRGH! When I'm booting I see the REGACC program loaded, but when I reach the desktop none of my PopIt hot keys are work. I have PopIt set for LSHIFT+ALT+P and when I try using it, I get the dialog box "Drive P: does not exist". If I then run the REGACC program from the desktop, all is fine even though it tells me REGACC is already installed. I read somewhere uptopic something about the ICD AdSCSI.CPX, which I do have loaded into XCONTROL. I need this to relog my hardrives when I boot without a Syquest cartridge inserted and later want to access one. I have XCONTROL installed as a resident ACC in MultiDesk ver 3.4a. System is MSTE-4, ICD 5.5, TOS 2.0.5. Directory: C:\AUTO\*.* * SUPERBT SUPERBT PRG WARP9_ST PRG CODEKEYS PRG UIS_III PRG MACCEL3 PRG CSHOW63 PRG REGACC PRG Directory: C:\MULTDESK.MDX\ALWAYS\*.* XCONTROL ACC WARP9CNF PRG WARP9_CP ACC WARP9_2 CNF EDHAK CFG EDHAK236 ACC ACCESSORIES LOADED FROM ROOT DIRECTORY OF DRIVE C: Maxifile, CodeKeys, PopIt, MultiDesk. Any ideas? Hugs...Swampy ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 98 Sat Nov 07, 1992 R.JOHNSON [Robert] at 14:21 EST Swampy, Make sure that the 'Hot' box is checked in the PopIt dialog box. -- Robert Johnson -- 8:21:00 pm CET -- Mainz, Germany ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 99 Sat Nov 07, 1992 D.D.MARTIN [Swampy] at 17:05 EST ROBERT J -- The 'hot box' is checked. Like I say, it works fine if I run the REGACC again from the desktop. Hugs...Swampy ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 100 Sat Nov 07, 1992 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 21:42 EST DD, Try using hot key combinations that are not used by the desktop. Alt-P is trying to open a window for drive P, which doesn't exist. If you run REGACC again, it will intercept the keypress before the desktop. This sounds to me like what's happening. I like to use RightShift plus numeric keypad keys to pop up my accessories. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 101 Sun Nov 08, 1992 J.GNIEWKOWSK [GE-Lamp ST] at 01:23 EST Swampy, I have a similar problem with PopIt. For any of my hotkeys to work, I have to run a program (any program) first. Then the keys will work. Not quite sure what the problem is, but dosen't bother me (that much ;) John E. Gniewkowski GenieLamp ST Editor ---------------------- Sunday, November 8, 1992 12:56:22 am ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 102 Sun Nov 08, 1992 D.D.MARTIN [Swampy] at 08:59 EST JOHN E. -- Ya mean CONTROL+ALT+P isn't a valid hot key? I have all my CodeKeys using CONTROL+LSHIFT+X so I thought the CONTROL+ALT would be a better combination for PopIt. I reset my PopIt hotkeys for LSHIFT+numeric keypad and got the same results! The only way I can get Popit to work is to run it from the AUTO folder and then _again_ from the desktop. JOHN G.-- Wonder what we are doing wrong? Hugs...Swampy ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 103 Sun Nov 08, 1992 SFRT-ASST [Kenne@SFRT] at 12:17 EST POPIT is a DA. You should run REGACC from the auto folder. I vaguely remembering playing around with it with AutoOrg.PRG to get it right. ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 104 Sun Nov 08, 1992 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 13:57 EST DD and John G., I don't know what to say. I've tried testing a few combinations but couldn't duplicate your problems. I didn't use the XControl Panel, though. One suggestion would be that if running a program, or re-running REGACC will solve it, perhaps you could set that up as your auto-run program. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 105 Sun Nov 08, 1992 D.D.MARTIN [Swampy] at 17:43 EST KEENE- REGACC _is_ in the AUTO folder and as I'm booting up I can see it install (it's the last thing in the AUTO folder), but something is grabbing it from somewhere. I can only get PopIt to run if I _re-run_ REGACC from the desktop after I boot. It runs beautifully once I do that, but it _should_ install as an AUTO.PRG, right? John E. I guess I could do that, but dread the thought of giving up all my preset SuperBoot keys that have separate .INF files to auto run certain programs (PGS, Flash, Aladdin, Spectre's Launch Prg. etc.) Hugs...Swampy ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 106 Sun Nov 08, 1992 SFRT-ASST [Kenne@SFRT] at 20:19 EST Try autorunning it with Hotwire. Have you stipped your auto folder and DA's? ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 107 Sun Nov 08, 1992 NTACTONE [Ron Hunter] at 23:19 EST Swampy, RegACC should be near the START of the AUTO folder. It needs to run before any program it is to control... ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 108 Sun Nov 08, 1992 NTACTONE [Ron Hunter] at 23:41 EST Wow, was I asleep. That's CodeKeys that needs to go before anything it is to control. RegAcc HAS to be before the .ACCS. sigh. See, I told you I was getting OLD. ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 109 Mon Nov 09, 1992 M.SQUIRE [Mike] at 00:46 EDT Swampy and John Gniewkowski, The problem with PopIt that you describe is similar to a problem that I have been seeing with it and that has been reported here in this topic to the Codeheads in the past. My problem runs something like this: I boot with HOTWIRE, REGACC, and other programs in my AUTO folder and MultiDesk Deluxe and MaxiFile as desk accessories. MultiDesk Deluxe, in turn, loads a set of desk accessories which does -not- include Xcontrol Panel which is merely "initiated" (-I) flag, but remains non-resident. Whenever I load the nonresident Xcontrol Panel accessory to check or modify something, one or several of the non-Atari Corporation developed CPXs (e.g., ICD's ADSCSI.CPX, the German calculator CPX, the German ASCII Table CPX) somehow disables PopIt, even if not used) and the only ways, after closing the Xcontrol Panel accessory and returning to the GEM Desktop (or, in my case, to my HotWire menu), that I have found to restore PopIt are: 1) rerun REGACC.PRG (the program will tell you it needs to be run from the AUTO folder, but it doesn't matter and restores PopIt to working order), 2) call up the MultiDesk Deluxe menu and exit, and/or 3) call up the MaxiFile screen and exit. The PopIt program needs to be modified to fix this problem, but that's up to the program's author, Doug Harrison, and I haven't heard anything lately to suggest that he intends to modify or enhance PopIt any further. ... Mike Squire ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 110 Mon Nov 09, 1992 D.D.MARTIN [Swampy] at 04:21 EST MIKE SQUIRE -- Thanks for the info. I do use XCONTORL and the ICD AdSCSI CPX so that must be the culpret. I have it running as a resident accessory in Multidesk so maybe it is disabling PopIt when it loads? PopIt is disabled completely by the time I reach the desktop when I boot and have not called the CPX at all. Strange. I guess I'll just put an icon on the desktop for REGACC and reactivate it when I get to the desktop. Thanks to everyone for your hints and tips! Hugs...Swampy ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 111 Mon Nov 09, 1992 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 17:15 EST Kenne, Not everyone use HotWire...unfortunately. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 112 Mon Nov 09, 1992 D.S.HARRISON [Doug] at 19:27 EST Hmmm, I thought this problem had been fixed in RegAcc 1.1 and PopIt 1.2. Earlier versions had this problem with programs which broke rules by failing to appl_exit, appl_initing twice, etc., which fouled up PopIt's scheme for determining when it's acceptable to intercept hotkeys. I've been using XControl as a non-resident Multidesk Deluxe accessory for a long time and haven't experienced this problem, but I'm also only using CPXs from Atari. Can someone point me to a specific CPX file in the libraries which will allow me to duplicate the problem? Thanks, Doug ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 113 Mon Nov 09, 1992 J.WILSON103 [John] at 20:40 EST >REGACC _is_ in the AUTO folder and as I'm booting up I can see it install >(it's the last thing in the AUTO folder), but something is grabbing it from >somewhere. I can only get PopIt to run if I _re-run_ REGACC from the desktop >after I boot. It runs beautifully once I do that, but it _should_ install as >an AUTO.PRG, right? > DD, If Regacc is LAST in the auto folder, I think that may be the problem. I believe one of the Superbt programs "HAS" to be last. J_Dub ~~~~~ Monday, November 9, 1992 4:41:34 pm ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 115 Tue Nov 10, 1992 J.SAFFER [JASON SAFFER] at 00:17 EST I'm having difficulties trying to change the colors on my TT with color monitor system while in LookIt. One thing I notice is that I can't even access the Control Panel's CPX's by double clicking on them when I'm in Lookit. The Control panel itself shows up but double clicking on, for example, the Colors CPX doesn't have an effect. (This is with the Control panel retrieved from MultiDesk Deluxe.). I think I tried to change LookIt's colors also with the Control Panel as a regular desk accessory but couldn't figure out how to change the background blue into another color. Any specific suggestions on how to do this? - Jason Saffer Hercules, California Monday, November 9, 1992 8:56 pm ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 116 Tue Nov 10, 1992 NTACTONE [Ron Hunter] at 04:28 EDT John, What? You mean someone uses an ST without HotWire!? Might as well use Windows... ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 117 Tue Nov 10, 1992 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 09:51 EST Doug Harrison, If you do install one of these "problem" CPXes, you should also specify "-I" in your TITLES.MDX file so that XControl initializes at bootup. I think that's what's causing the problem. What perplexes me is that if a CPX does cause REGACC to "unhook" itself, it would seem that the CPX is stepping out of its bounds since a CPX is not supposed to mess with system vectors. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 118 Tue Nov 10, 1992 SFRT-ASST [Kenne@SFRT] at 14:27 EDT Everyone DOESN'T use HotWire?? Ken Estes [SFRT-ASST] 15:58:40--Pacific Time Monday, November 09, 1992 ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 119 Tue Nov 10, 1992 D.D.MARTIN [Swampy] at 19:01 EST DOUG HARRISON -- >I thought this problem had been fixed in REGACC 1.1 and PopIt 1.2. Mmmmmmm I just checked my PopIt version number and I've got 1.1 (pout). Now, Tomas!! Shame on you! Why did you sell me an old version at WAACE? So, now tell me what I have to do to upgrade? Hugs...Swampy ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 120 Tue Nov 10, 1992 D.D.MARTIN [Swampy] at 19:24 EST John & Doug I removed XCONTROL from my system completely and PopIt runs just fine. I don't have to re-run REGACC from the desk top. So something in the XCONTROL is is the culpret. I only have four CPXs active... GENERAL, MODEM, ACCELERATOR and AdSCSI (ICD's CPX). I've gotta think the AdSCSI is the source of the problem. Hugs...Swampy ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 121 Tue Nov 10, 1992 NTACTONE [Ron Hunter] at 21:26 EDT Swampy, I have problems when I try to use the regular AdSCSI.ACC, also. ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 122 Wed Nov 11, 1992 MUSE [Tomas] at 00:33 EST Gee, Swampy. I have PopIt! v1.1 too! I'll double check the master disk tomorrow, unless John sees this first. ===Tomas=== November 10, 1992 @ 20:58:38 pm PST ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 123 Wed Nov 11, 1992 M.SQUIRE [Mike] at 01:15 EDT Doug, The troublesome ADSCSI.CPX can be found in ICD Roundtable Library File #44 named NEWHOST.LZH. I don't have a reference for either the German Calculator or ASCII Table CPXs, but I did download them from the ST Roundtable Library here on GEnie. The version of PopIt (and REGACC) that I have is v1.1. To the best of my knowledge, PopIt v1.2 has never been shipped. Are you sure you weren't thinking of LookIt? It is at v1.2. ... Mike Squire ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 124 Wed Nov 11, 1992 TOWNS [John@Atari] at 01:44 EDT Before completely throwing out the new Control Panel, I would try disabling CPX modules that you think might be causing the problem. I personally would be interested to see what the problem is. -- John Townsend, Atari Corp. ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 125 Wed Nov 11, 1992 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 04:59 EST Doug, Is there really a PopIt 1.2? I thought the latest versions were LookIt 1.2 and PopIt 1.1. If you sent me a later version, then it's all my fault for burying it somewhere. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 126 Wed Nov 11, 1992 D.D.MARTIN [Swampy] at 18:35 EST JOHN TOWNS -- It's not the XCONTROL itself, it's the ICD AdSCSI.CPX. It disables PopIt when it is loaded into the XCONTROL. I removed it from my XCONTROL and rebooted and PopIt works as advertised, put it back in and rebooted and it trashes PopIt. ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 127 Fri Nov 13, 1992 D.LIVINGST11 [ErnestBovine] at 05:51 EST What's wrong with calling appl_init or appl_exit as many times as I want? I thought appl_exit just sends AC_CLOSE to all accs, and is harmless. ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 128 Fri Nov 13, 1992 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 10:34 EST Doug Livingston, You can call appl_init and appl_exit as often as you want, but they should be in pairs. For every init, there should be an exit. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 129 Sun Jan 10, 1993 S.SAMUELS [ORCA] at 21:19 EST John and Charles, Hi ya guys....any luck with getting Popit (or rather REGACC) to be updated for compatibility with the newer TOS's? John, you'll recall we spoke on the phone about the problem it now has with TOS 3.06 (and 2.06?) and the Alt numeric keys for ascii entry, right? I know you all are plenty busy these days, but gee I hate lose Popit on the the TT! But since it kills the ascii entry of special characters in Calamus SL, I can't use it as it is. Best, Stephen ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 130 Mon Jan 11, 1993 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 06:15 EST Stephen, After we talked, I played with PopIt a little further. The conflict disappears if you disable PopIt's hot keys. Of course, PopIt is not much use without its hot keys, but you can disable them temporarily by either turning them off/on from the ACC or by holding all four shift keys and pressing Tab. For those who wonder what we're talking about, there is a feature in TOS 2.06/3.06 which uses Alt plus the numeric keypad. You can type ASCII numbers greater than 127 to obtain extended characters. When PopIt's hot keys are active, it disables this feature. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 131 Mon Jan 11, 1993 J.SAFFER [JASON SAFFER] at 22:51 EST Stephen, what problems are you having running PopIt on your TT? I've got it on my TT with TOS 3.06 and all seems to work fine (don't you just hate hearing that kind of thing!?!?). - Jason Saffer Hercules, California Sunday, January 10, 1993 8:49 pm ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 132 Tue Jan 12, 1993 S.SAMUELS [ORCA] at 06:22 EST John, thanks for that info, I'll try it as a temporary 'fix'. I guess my real question is still hanging... "do you think REGACC and Popit will get repaired for use with the newer TOS's?" Do you think Doug Harrison will either fix it or give you 'heads the code to fix it? Jason, It seems that with REGACC and Popit installed the feature in the newer TOS versions (2.06 and 3.06) that allows special characters to be entered by typing Alt and the numberic keypad ascii numbers of the character is disabled. This shows up in Calamus SL (you run that right?) in the PKS editor for example. You should be able to enter something like Alt #252 in PKS. Or in the Search and Replace dialog, Alt #9 for the TAB. With REGACC and Popit and TOS 3.06 you can't do this. Try it, if you can, please report back. Thanks. ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 133 Tue Jan 12, 1993 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 11:42 EST Stephen, I will try to find the time to contact Doug about this problem. Perhaps he's still reading this area. I'm not sure if Doug has access to a x.06 machine for testing (or if he is even still using Ataris). At any rate, we are too seriously understaffed to take over his code and update it. If you find yourself using the same Alt-Numpad combinations frequently, perhaps you could use CodeKeys to do it (I know you use CodeKeys ). John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 134 Thu Jan 14, 1993 S.SAMUELS [ORCA] at 03:46 EST John, what makes you think I use CodeKeys ? That's a good idea but it would be to slow for me. Your info about all the shift keys and tab to toggle Popit on and off works just fine for now. I feel better already! Thanks for that one. Seems I saw a Doug message here not tooooo long ago, so maybe, I hope he'll just go and fix it. I'd be happy to beta test the fix if he needs it on my TOS 3.06 TT. Shoot, I'b be happy to pay 15 buck for the fixed update and not have to think about no more! Best to you and yer other heads! %^) ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 135 Thu Jan 14, 1993 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 12:54 EST Stephen, I've been communicating with Doug Harrison via E-Mail. I'll post notice in this topic of any progress made. Doug has already fixed the XControl disabling problem. We also want to increase the available number of hot keys beyond 32. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 136 Fri Jan 15, 1993 J.SAFFER [JASON SAFFER] at 02:26 EST Orca, I can't help you regarding using PopIt with Calamus since I don't use Calamus. Sorry. I also haven't had experience using the feature of having special characters by typing Alterate and the numeric keypad. Thanks for letting me know, though, what the problem has been. - Jason Saffer Hercules, California Tuesday, January 12, 1993 11:17 pm ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 137 Fri Jan 15, 1993 S.SAMUELS [ORCA] at 03:42 EST Good idea John... between Popit, CodeKeys and the Calamus macros what I think I need is more keys on the darn keyboard! %^) ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 138 Fri Jan 15, 1993 POTECHIN [RT~Sysop] at 09:05 EST Hmmm, maybe you should consider a larger keyboard Stephen. ;-) Nathan @ DMC ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 139 Sat Jan 16, 1993 S.SAMUELS [ORCA] at 04:02 EST Yeah Nathan, since it's all still Atari, maybe I could glue two of them together and paint the old German Runes on the extra keys. %^) ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 140 Mon Feb 08, 1993 J.SAFFER [JASON SAFFER] at 22:58 EST I must be missing something here, even though I've looked for sage advice in the manual. I'm noticing that some of my desk accessories that I have in my MULTDESK.MDX folder on C aren't showing up in my PopIt list, specifically CardFile and also BackTalk, both accessories from Gribnif. I'd like to be able to assign hotkeys for them via PopIt but can't figure out how to get them listed in the PopIt menu. Help! - Jason Saffer Hercules, California Monday, February 8, 1993 12:53 pm ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 141 Tue Feb 09, 1993 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 05:17 EST Jason, Do you have some accessories in folder within your MULTDESK.MDX folder? PopIt does not see ACCs nested in other folders. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 142 Tue Feb 09, 1993 NTACTONE [Ron Hunter] at 05:51 EST > Do you have some accessories in folder within your MULTDESK.MDX folder? >PopIt does not see ACCs nested in other folders. >------- Huh? My Popit seems to work fine with the .ACCs in the Multdesk.mdx folder... ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 143 Tue Feb 09, 1993 S.GARRIGUS [Scotty] at 20:39 EST John, I have all my ACC's in separate folders inside the MULTDESK.MDX folder and everything show's up in POPIT. Hmmm... Scotty SRG Software ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 144 Tue Feb 09, 1993 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 21:46 EST Ron, Yes, PopIt sees ACCs in your MDX folder. But it doesn't see _nested_ ACCs -- those ACCs which are in folders _within_ your MDX folder. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 145 Tue Feb 09, 1993 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 22:17 EST Heck, I don't know. Maybe I should upgrade my MultiDesk to version 3.4a. :^) John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 146 Wed Feb 10, 1993 J.SAFFER [JASON SAFFER] at 01:00 EST Ummmm, there's a 38 item limit in PopIt, isn't there?? After some more testing, I noticed that if I remove some my accs from the mdx folder, then the "missing" accs show up in PopIt. I counted 38 items in my PopIt window...that's a limit, huh? - Jason Saffer Hercules, California Tuesday, February 9, 1993 9:57 pm ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 147 Wed Feb 10, 1993 NTACTONE [Ron Hunter] at 06:52 EST > Yes, PopIt sees ACCs in your MDX folder. But it doesn't see _nested_ ACCs >-- those ACCs which are in folders _within_ your MDX folder. > John -------- Oh, this is FUN! John, Cal 6.2a is in its own folder within the MDX folder, and I just looked in PopIt, and found it, assigned it a hotkey, and accessed it. The DOCS say that if the folder name is the same as the .ACC name, then MultiDesk will find it, and it seems PopIt does also.... BTW, I have the ORIGINAL version of PopIt. ---------- Jason, yes, there is a limit, but I thought it was 32 items. 38 is a strange number to choose for a limit... ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 148 Wed Feb 10, 1993 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 14:41 EST Ron, >Oh, this is FUN! I realize that some of the brightest parts of your day are when you can catch us in an error. I'm sorry I don't oblige you more often, but I'll try to throw you a bone every once in a while. :^) As for the limitations of PopIt, I believe that the PopIt configuration allows the definition of 50 hot key combinations, with a maximum of 32 being active at any one time. As for how many show up in the PopIt window, I don't really know. In this instance, I'm not willing to spend any time to investigate this further because it's all academic. I'm currently using a version of PopIt that eliminates the XControl knock-out problem and allows up to 96 hot keys. Now that I've mentioned it publicly, it's only a matter of how much nagging we receive to release it, before I place the priority above my more important activities. John P.S. I have so many things left undone around here that I tend to forget about some of them. I've found this new technique that seems to work pretty well -- if I think of something that needs doing, I just mention it here and let the public's interest level dictate the importance. For instance, I wrote a little program for Aladdin that I forgot about and never released. Then there's that unfinished version of Icon Juggler that has a full icon editor in it. Then there's MIDI Spy, which I actually _am_ working on currently. ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 149 Wed Feb 10, 1993 OUTRIDER [Terry] at 21:42 EST John, Feel free to drop all projects other than writing EOS modules. :^) __ /erry .\\ay ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 150 Wed Feb 10, 1993 AEO.3 [Lyre] at 21:49 EST John, > P.S. I have so many things left undone around here that I tend to > forget about some of them. Egads man! An here I am always looking for something new. For all I know the wiz-bang application of the year might be moldering somewhere at your home! I think you'ld better give everyone your address and allow us all to ransack the place. Once we've found all of the various projects we'll compile a list (in preference order) and just chain you to your keyboard until you finish them all. ;) > I've found this new technique that seems to work pretty well -- if > I think of something that needs doing, I just mention it here and > let the public's interest level dictate the importance. Hmmmm, this might also work. > For instance, I wrote a little program for Aladdin that I forgot > about and never released. I'm always looking for bigger and better Aladdin tools. By all means, either release it or at least mention it so we can find out the User Responce Rating. > Then there's that unfinished version of Icon Juggler that has a > full icon editor in it. I was interested in IJ, but because it wasn't finished (and with Hotwire didn't have an immediate need to edit icon's) I figured I would hold off on it. > Then there's MIDI Spy, which I actually _am_ working on currently. Hurray! Lyre 9:29 pm, February 10, 1993 ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 151 Wed Feb 10, 1993 SFRT-ASST [Kenne@SFRT] at 22:05 EST Hey, _I_ keep nagging you for AladdinExtractor! ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 152 Wed Feb 10, 1993 NTACTONE [Ron Hunter] at 23:42 EST > I realize that some of the brightest parts of your day are when you can >catch us in an error. I'm sorry I don't oblige you more often, but >I'll try to throw you a bone every once in a while. :^) ------ John, This happens SO seldom, please allow me a chance to gloat a bit when it does. That's what you guys get for making your programs so flexible. Grin. >Now that I've mentioned it publicly, it's only a matter of how much nagging >we receive to release it, before I place the priority above my more important >activities. Consider yourself nagged. Nag Nag Nag. Ron ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 153 Thu Feb 11, 1993 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 03:38 EST For a continuation of the discussion of my "things to do" list, meet me in the "Ask the CodeHeads" topic. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 154 Sun Feb 14, 1993 J.MORRISON38 [~ Jimmo ~] at 06:18 EST PopIt HotKey trouble... I was having trouble with my PopIt hot-keys, so I went back and downloaded the messages in this topic back to Nov. 1, 1992. Lots of things were bantered about, but I'm not sure was the resolution was. The messages just sort of fade out on the subject... 1) Is there a problem with the ICD AdSCSI CPX? If so, I trust ICD has been notified. Should we not use this CPX along with PopIt? 2) Are we awaiting a fix (and enhancements) for PopIt? 3) What was the '-I' param talked about for MultiDesk MDX's? I don't even have a TITLES.MDX file. Once closed, even these MDX's are completely gone from MultiDesk, right? 4) Should I be running XCONTROL as a non-res MDX? How would something like ADSCSI CPX function as non-res (how would it accumulate its cache stats, etc)? I'm running TOS 1.04; XCONTROL, MULTIDESK, MAXIFILE, POPIT as normal ACCs. Looking for a little clarification... ~ Jimmo ~ ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 155 Sun Feb 14, 1993 J.MORRISON38 [~ Jimmo ~] at 06:44 EST LookIt conflict with FUJIMAUS??? If I have FUJIMAUS (with revolving FUJI and BEEWATCH) active, my mouse and keyboard response in LookIt is S-L-U-G-G-I-S-H, to say the least. I'm talking about responses to keys and mouse clicks that are close to 1 second apart. The text cursor flashes very slowly also. If I disable FUJIMAUS, everything in LookIt speeds up. If I disable LookIt's custom FS, LGSELECT runs full speed. Other keyboard responses, such as in the search key fields, are still slow. I have no trouble with other programs, with FUJIMAUS active; PageStream, STENO, EDHAK, FWPLUS, MAXIFILE, all seem OK. Is LookIt using such completely different routines than these others? I'm almost afraid to ask... which program is 'cheating'? ~ Jimmo ~ ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 156 Sun Feb 14, 1993 M.MOTOGAWA [MEL] at 10:37 EST Jimmo, Yes, it's Fujimaus that's interfering. I noticed that slowdown a long time ago also, when using LookIt's search function. You'd press a key and about a second later it would appear in the search parameter line. Disable Fuji and everything was cool again. I love the busy bee-to-watch, mouse resurrector (worked better than any other I've seen) and the pointer parking, but needed full speed in LookIt more, so I finally removed Fuji. - Mel ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 157 Sun Feb 14, 1993 OUTRIDER [Terry] at 12:43 EST What Mel said. But there's no need to permanently remove FujiMaus. All you have to do is press both "Shift" keys while in LookIt! and FujiMaus will be temporarily diabled, and your sluggishness will be gone. After you exit LookIt!, press both Shift keys again to turn it back on. __ /erry .\\ay ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 158 Sun Feb 14, 1993 AEO.5 [Ed Krimen] at 15:14 EST >96 hot keys. Now that I've mentioned it publicly, it's only a matter >of how much nagging we receive to release it, before I place the >priority above my more important activities. Nag, nag, nag, nag, nag, nag, nag, nag, nag, nag, nag, nag, nag, nag, nag, nag. I could go on, but I think you get the idea. :^) I've got my update money in hand. ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 159 Sun Feb 14, 1993 M.MOTOGAWA [MEL] at 16:00 EST Terry, Yes, that would work too. I would do that personally, but I have another tsr/acc called Informer that also uses the Shift/Shift keypress to deactivate it, so it was have one or the other. I finally went in favor of Informer because I like the realtime ram display and the disk access/read or write indicator. By any chance, does anyone know about or have a corner utility that displays the current sector being accessed and works on TOS 1.6 and above? I've tried TRACKIT.PRG and ARGUS/XARGUS and RWABSMON, but they either don't work on TOS 1.6 or they don't do what I need. The reason why I need such a utility is to isolate what sector is bad when the "Data on drive X may be damaged" alert pops at various times. If anyone knows of anything else in the File Library or on another service and could u/l it here, I appreciate any help. Thanks! - Mel ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 160 Sun Feb 14, 1993 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 16:47 EST Jimmo, There is a new version of PopIt that's almost ready for release that fixes the AdSCSI CPX problem. If you use XControl as an MDX, you won't have the problem (I think). That's how I use it. You'll find documentation of TITLES.MDX and the "-I" parameter in Appendix A - Linking Titles to Nonresident DAs, in the MultiDesk Deluxe Manual, pages 29- 30. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 161 Sun Feb 14, 1993 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 18:11 EST Aha, pressing both shift keys disable/enables FujiMaus?? LookIt uses both shift keys to abort a printout. I wonder if therein lies the source of the conflict? Mel, You're getting a message informing you of drive X damage? That doesn't sound right. Does this always happen in the same program? John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 162 Sun Feb 14, 1993 OUTRIDER [Terry] at 18:24 EST Mel, I like Informer, but I stopped using it because I missed my HotWire clock, and because of bleed-through on many screensavers. I'd love for HotWire to have memory and drive i/o indicators. As for your bad sector problems, have you checked your drive with Cleanup and/or Diamond Medic? __ /erry .\\ay ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 163 Sun Feb 14, 1993 M.MOTOGAWA [MEL] at 23:32 EST John E., The GEM (TOS?) "Data on drive X may be damaged" alert pops up whenever an iffy sector is being accessed. Sometimes when a prg loads it's rsc or my archiver utility is adding files. Not surprising since my hd is dying a slow death due to an ever increasing number of bad sectors. It would be nice to have a corner utility or something that could display sectors as their being accessed (and worked on TOS 1.6). The rapid rate at which sectors would be displayed would be no problem since the above bad data alert would freeze it in its tracks, hopefully right at the errant sector. I have plenty of utilities to mark sectors as bad, I just need to know which one. :-) If anyone knows of such a utility (remember, it has to work on TOS 1.6) on GEnie or wherever, please post the file number or u/l it. Thanks! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Terry, Yes, I've tried both, and about 6 other hd utilities. The marginal sectors manage to slip past them all with flying colors, but when a program tries to use a file with one of them in it, like loading a file or rsc with one of these iffy sectors, it's all about "Data on drive X may be damaged" time. :-) I've isolated the files, but some of them have lot's of sectors. - Mel ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 164 Mon Feb 15, 1993 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 09:28 EST Mel, The part of your problem that caught my attention was the fact that the message refers to drive "X". Perhaps you're just using "X" in your messages here to mean "the drive on which the error occurs". But if the message actually uses the letter "X", it sounds to me like your problem lies in your software, not your drive. A drive "X" message would mean that the BIOS read/write call has been passed an incorrect drive number. If this occurs while within different programs, it could be some resident software that's interfering. You haven't been hangin' around with any of those nasty software "gangs" again, have you? John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 165 Mon Feb 15, 1993 M.MOTOGAWA [MEL] at 12:40 EST John, No, it's not gang related, unless there's an old Seagate gang out there somewhere. :-) I was using the "X" in my example as a generic drive letter, although I have seen the weirdness a time or two (not bad sector related) when there was no drive letter in that alert, in which case you know a crash is right around the corner. The alert pops up with a drive letter, letting me know that the file currently being read on that drive has a bad sector. I only wish I could id the precise bad one and mark it out in the FAT. I haven't seen any responses in the last few days to my queries for a sector display utility for TOS 1.6, so I guess none exist. Oh well, I could just mark all the sectors belonging to the known bad files. :-) Thanks! - Mel ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 166 Mon Feb 15, 1993 E.WISNIEWSK1 [Jeff - ST'er] at 17:18 EST Mel, I had the same problem a few years back with my old Hard-Drive. What the problem was - was the controller card (Not the Host Adapter) that was going bad. And so the drive would pop up with that error all the time. Replaced the controller and no problems after that. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^ JSW ^^^^ ^^^^ ST'er ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Monday, February 15, 1993 - 5:13:32 pm ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 167 Mon Feb 15, 1993 D.D.MARTIN [Swampy] at 19:41 EST Regards the AdSCSI CPX fix! Thanks, JOHN!!!! Yummie, yummie, I got love in my tummy for dem CodeHeads. They can fix _anything_! Now, John, about my leaking faucet over here.... Hugs...Swampy ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 168 Tue Feb 16, 1993 M.SQUIRE [Mike] at 03:58 EST John, > There is a new version of PopIt that's almost ready for release > that fixes the AdSCSI CPX problem. If you use XControl as an MDX, > you won't have the problem (I think). That's how I use it. That method will work (to set your settings) until you need to make an adjustment to one of your Control Panel settings or check something, then once you've momentarily loaded Control Panel into memory and selected the faulty CPX (e.g., AdSCSI), the PopIt problem will crop up and remain until you access either the MultiDesk Deluxe or MaxiFile desk accessory. ... Mike Squire ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 169 Tue Feb 16, 1993 J.MORRISON38 [~ Jimmo ~] at 22:28 EST Mel/Terry/John...more FUJIMAUS observations... The slowdown in LookIt is easy to see by watching the text cursor in the text filename field (it normally flashes fairly rapidly). It appears it is only the 'Pointer-to-MousEye' option in FujiMaus that causes the slowdown in LookIt. Disable that one option via CONFUJWE and the slowdown disappears. (Mel, we should be able to keep the FUJI and the BeeWatch options). If the mouse 'goes to sleep', and changes the pointer to a MousEye, the text cursor speeds up. You can manually do this with SHIFT/SHIFT twice. If you move the mouse pointer so that the mouseye appears, the text cursor speeds up. Stop moving the mouse, so the normal pointer re-appears, and the text cursor slows down. Therefore...it appears to be the routines that determine WHEN or IF to do the pointer conversion that are messing up LOOKIT. Once the conversion is done, things are OK. I believe this conversion was based on speed and/or pixels moved, configurable in CONFUJWE. As John mentioned, might it be the SHIFT/SHIFT scanning that is somehow causing the conflict? I would 'guess' NO. This problem is certainly not earth-shattering; I'm not going to spend TOO MUCH more time on it; but I happen to like FUJIMAUS! ** Why the slowdown happens only on LOOKIT's own screens is my real question? ** ~ Jimmo ~ ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 170 Wed Feb 17, 1993 M.MOTOGAWA [MEL] at 02:02 EST Jimmo, Hey, thanks for the info.. Maybe Fujimaus will live again on my system. - Mel ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 171 Wed Feb 17, 1993 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 10:56 EST The PopIt 1.3 upgrade is now available. It allows up to 96 hot key combinations, no longer has a problem with being kicked out by AdSCSI CPX (or any other CPX that we know of), and it does not interfere with the Alternate/Numeric Keypad entry of ASCII values in TOS 2.06 and 3.06. To obtain the update, send us your LookIt & PopIt master disk and $10. You'll get LookIt 1.2, PopIt 1.3, and REGACC.PRG 1.3. Mike Squire, Thanks for the clarification. BTW, I wouldn't blame the AdSCSI CPX as "faulty". There's no proof that it's doing anything wrong. It just somehow causes PopIt to be confused. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 172 Wed Feb 17, 1993 J.KRZYSZTOW [JEFFREY] at 22:04 EST John, Just like the rest, consider yourself nagged!!!!! Jeffrey ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 173 Sat Feb 20, 1993 M.SQUIRE [Mike] at 03:10 EST John, My check is in the mail for the new PopIt upgrade. It sounds like my CPX conflict problems will be a thing of the past. I hadn't realized that PopIt was inhibiting my ability to use TOS 2.06's Alt-Numeric Keypad feature to generate Extended Characters. I guess I just didn't use it that much. ... Mike Squire ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 174 Wed Mar 10, 1993 J.MORRISON38 [~ Jimmo ~] at 23:37 EST Les CodeHeads... Just thought I'd let you know I received my PopIt 1.3 upgrade today, March 10th (btw, your letter was post-marked March 4th). That's not bad trans- border turnaround time; less than 3 weeks from when I mailed it (Feb. 18th) here in London (Ontario, Canada). Works fine; no conflicts or problems! Now, I only need 15 or 20 more function keys, with 5 or 6 new shift keys! :-) ~ Jimmo ~ ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 175 Wed Mar 31, 1993 E.WISNIEWSK1 [Jeff - ST'er] at 18:53 EST John @ CodeHeads, Just got the PopIt/LookIt upgrade today and I have just one question. You have REGACC.PRG in the AUTO folder and one in the root directory. And they are different sizes, the one in the AUTO folder is 3372 bytes (the same size as the old version) and the one in the root directory is 3178 bytes. Which one is the latest version?. Thanks. I just ran both of them. The one in the ROOT directory is the latest version (3178 bytes). Just to let you know that you have two different versions on the disk. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^ JSW ^^^^ ^^^^ ST'er ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Monday, March 29, 1993 - 5:27:46 pm ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 176 Thu Apr 01, 1993 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 14:06 EST Jeff, Thanks. When I last updated the disk, I didn't think to look in the AUTO folder for another copy of REGACC.PRG. The one in the root directory is the new one. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 177 Sat Apr 03, 1993 E.WISNIEWSK1 [Jeff - ST'er] at 14:18 EST John, Just keeping you on your toes. :-} ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^ JSW ^^^^ ^^^^ ST'er ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Friday, April 2, 1993 - 10:56:48 am ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 178 Wed Apr 14, 1993 E.WISNIEWSK1 [Jeff - ST'er] at 07:28 EDT John & Charles, One thing I noticed with PopIt! (yep I just got the latest version from you). And please bear with my explanation. - Install a Desk Accessories, ex. THES.ACC - Assign a HotKey via PopIt!, ex. ALT-T for THES.ACC. - Use MDXTITLE to change the THES.ACC to Thesaurus to make it easier to read in MultiDesk Deluxe and PopIt!. - Now PopIt! will display Thesaurus instead of THES.ACC, but it still thinks that ALT-T is still for THES.ACC. You have to re-assign and override ALT-T so it will be for Thesaurus. Would it be possible for MDXTITLE to modify the PopIt! Config file?. Or something like that. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^ JSW ^^^^ ^^^^ ST'er ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Tuesday, April 13, 1993 - 3:20:14 pm ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 179 Wed Apr 14, 1993 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 18:05 EDT Jeff, Thanks for the suggestion. I suppose that MDX Titler could change the PopIt config. Of course, it wouldn't take effect until you reloaded the config into PopIt. I don't know the format of the POPIT.CFG file, either. Perhaps it's easier to just go into PopIt and reassign the key after changing the name of an accessory. I'd guess you don't do it very frequently. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 180 Fri Apr 16, 1993 E.WISNIEWSK1 [Jeff - ST'er] at 07:21 EDT John, >Thanks for the suggestion. I suppose that MDX Titler could change >the PopIt config. Of course, it wouldn't take effect until you >reloaded the config into PopIt. I don't know the format of the >POPIT.CFG file, either. Perhaps it's easier to just go into PopIt and >reassign the key after changing the name of an accessory. I'd guess >you don't do it very frequently. Yep, I don't do it that often, it just threw me for a small loop until I remembered what I did. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^ JSW ^^^^ ^^^^ ST'er ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Thursday, April 15, 1993 - 10:09:20 pm ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 181 Sat May 08, 1993 J.KRZYSZTOW [JEFFREY] at 00:35 EDT John, Charles, and Doug, With the advent of MultiTOS, will PopIt! be upgraded to support assigning hot keys to applications that are already running. It would be great to be able to switch to a different application like I currently do to a desk accessory. Does MultiTOS provide such a feature? Jeffrey ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 182 Sat May 08, 1993 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 05:20 EDT Jeffrey, We're working with Atari on compatibility with MultiTOS. At this time it's unknown whether PopIt will require an upgrade or not. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 183 Sat May 08, 1993 SFRT-ASST [Kenne@SFRT] at 17:21 EDT Have you thought of expanding Popit to be more like Now Menus? Somehow I don't think TOS would make it easy. It's really nice to be able to Assign a hotkey to almost any menu item. The extremely nice thing about it is that the hotkey assignment is visible next to the menu item. ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 184 Sun May 09, 1993 OUTRIDER [Terry] at 01:37 EDT CodeKeys allows you to assign a hot key to any menu item. That's probably as close to Now Menus as you'll get on the ST. __ /erry .\\ay ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 185 Sun May 09, 1993 SFRT-ASST [Kenne@SFRT] at 04:07 EDT Risking the Codes' wrath, the second part of the request is Codekey's greatest limitation. I can do without the hierarchal menus. But I love the little graphic display menu item's hotkey. I suppose I like the user config'ed menus too. ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 186 Sun May 09, 1993 CODEHEAD [Charles] at 18:08 EDT Kenne, Yes, I love that feature of NowMenus too. Unfortunately, it's completely impossible to achieve under TOS; the system resources simply aren't there. - Charles @ CodeHead Tech ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 187 Sun May 09, 1993 SFRT-ASST [Kenne@SFRT] at 19:58 EDT That's what I thought. And now that I think about it, you told me that at The Glendale Show. ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 188 Mon May 10, 1993 NTACTONE [Ron Hunter] at 20:07 EST >> Yes, I love that feature of NowMenus too. Unfortunately, it's << >>completely impossible to achieve under TOS; the system resources << >>simply aren't there. << Charles, I suppose that means you will have it done next week. I thought 'impossible' wasn't in the CodeHead Dictionary. If you can't duplicate it, do something BETTER... Grin. ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 189 Mon May 10, 1993 SFRT-ASST [Kenne@SFRT] at 21:37 EDT I gather that TOS doesn't have the legal calls to achieve it. The Codes a pushing it to the limit already. I think a lot more system hacks should have been incorporated into TOS already but I'm not a programmer so I'll try not to Monday morning quarterback them. Popit and Multidesk should be official software that comes with every TOS box, with Codekeys coming up a very close third. ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 190 Wed May 12, 1993 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 05:42 EDT Kenne, We approached Atari about bundling CodeKeys back in the Greg Pratt days. Nothing ever came of it though. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 195 Mon Jun 14, 1993 D.SHORR at 20:52 EDT Hi, I updated my copy of LookIt/PopIt at the CT show this weekend and found that the copy of RegAcc in the AUTO folder is not the same as the copy contained in the root directory(the one in the root directory is the latest and greatest). The new PopIt is no longer disabled by my copy of the ICD AdSpeed CPX; thanx CodeHeads!!! Dave ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 196 Thu Jul 01, 1993 K.VANDELLEN [Ken Van] at 18:36 EDT John, I just picked these up at a computer store's moving sale. (The registration card is ready to be mailed.) I got version 1.0. How out of date is it? BTW, I got two copies of your mailing. Kenneth J. Van Dellen and Kenneth J. Van Vellen. Rest of the label is identical. Delete the second one. Ken Van ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 197 Thu Jul 01, 1993 K.VANDELLEN [Ken Van] at 18:45 EDT John, Uh, the mailing I opened first didn't have the price list. The one I just opened did. I'll send the disk in for the upgrade. Ken Van ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 198 Fri Jul 02, 1993 J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead] at 04:12 EDT Ken Van, LookIt is at version 1.2 and PopIt is at version 1.3. The update fee is $10. Thanks for the tip about the double mailing. I'll delete the second one. Hmmm...one of your envelopes didn't have three items in it, eh? I wonder how often they did that? We hired a mailing company. John ------------ Category 32, Topic 21 Message 199 Fri Jul 02, 1993 K.VANDELLEN [Ken Van] at 07:39 EDT John, Yes, I wondered why you sent the descriptive stuff without any prices. I was going to ask you what the purpose of the mailing was, when I decided to add the contents of the second envelope to my pile of stuff I save but don't have much need for and seldom look at. Now, do I return the disk, or will the registration card and my VISA number in GEmail be enough? It seems you sometimes want the disk back and sometimes you don't. Ken Van ------------