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Topic 5         Tue Jan 17, 1989
TOWNS                        at 13:36 EST
Sub: General Help or Questions

If you need help or have a question that doesn't fit into one of the other
topic areas in the Atari Corporation area, please feel free to leave it here!
200 message(s) total.
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 1         Mon Nov 30, 1992
D.ALVEAR1 [Dom Alvear]       at 01:19 EST

Help!

I remember reading somewhere of a "trick" to make the .CPX control panel use
up less memory?  It was a modification to the DESKTOP.INF file, but I can't
find it!  What was this trick!

TELL ME!!!!

(please... ;-)

Dom

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 2         Mon Nov 30, 1992
R.MORROW10 [Bob M.]          at 01:27 EST

Anyone know of a program that's an offline reader for TBBS-style BBS systems?
(both ST and IBM readers would be nice).  We have a few here who like to leave
many 5 line messages and it takes forever to wade through all of them due to
TBBS's shortcomings.  Nothing that compresses, just something like Aladdin.
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 3         Mon Nov 30, 1992
G.ANDERSON                   at 01:41 EST

Thanks Sheldon, I'll let Jim know about it.  When I get back (around the 3rd
week of Jan) I'll drop by for a chat & what-ever and maybe be able to get the
old beast brought 'up to spects' <grin>. I've also got a new Fujitsu 520Meg
drive waiting for me back home.... Never again will I get bothered by 'disk
full' messages in the middle of a save or download <YEA!!!>...  now all I
gotta do is figgure out how to pay for the fool thing <sad smile>.

Gregg
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 4         Mon Nov 30, 1992
P.GRIFFITH2 [PGRIF]          at 03:51 EST

   David,
     Gene Mosher lives in Eugene, OR and is a frequent caller to the PASTE BBS
in Eugene 503-686-3276.(a great ATARI BBS) I think that he can be found via
directory assistance or IB Computers might have his number. Their number
is:503-485-1424.
  Paul
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 5         Mon Nov 30, 1992
EXPLORER.5 [Robert Goff]     at 21:58 EST

Dom,

Making the last line of your CONTROL.INF file "1" instead of "0" will force
XCONTROL to allocate a buffer large enough only for the largest of the active
CPXs, or so I hear.  When I made the change, I _seemed_ to recover about 20k
of memory.

I have to qualify that by saying that my methods of measuring free ram haven't
been all that reliable.  I've seen changes in free ram from one boot to the
next with no software changes, which could have been caused by naughty ACCs
and warm boots.

Also, I don't know the difference between this "trick" and the "resident/non-
resident" flag you can set with the "Configure CPXs" CPX.

 |) |
 |)O|)

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 6         Tue Dec 01, 1992
D.FARRINGTO1 [David <><  .]  at 01:21 EST

Thank you Dot:

I have Z-Net issue ...17, 18 and 20.  Look what one misses by missing one
issue.  :)  I think I have Gene's number.  I did not know that he is
ViewTouch.

Thanks again

David <><

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 7         Tue Dec 01, 1992
B.STOREY [Billy B.]          at 07:06 EST

Dot:
 I keep 1 group of disks called Mag D/L's. I put all the downloaded mags on
them, still LZH'ed. Then if I need to reference an old mag, all I need do is
unpack it and check it out.


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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 8         Wed Dec 02, 1992
BOB-BRODIE [Atari Corp.]     at 01:03 EST

J.Vengrouski-

No one was using ST Logo, so it didn't make sense to us to continue paying
royalties to have it placed in our systems. We discontinued it a couple of
years ago. The language never caught on.

David,

Glad to see you were able to get such prompt help!  I suspect that if you do a
search in GEnie mail, you may also find that Gene has a GEnie account, too.
Seems to me he indicated that he was online here as well.

I don't think you'll find him online or in the office this week, though. He's
off to a trade show for resturant owners, showing off his touch screen menu
system in Miami. He'll be there for about a week, then back in Oregon.

Re the virtual memory product, it's from Germany. I think Bill Rehbock was
helping the company find US distribution, you might want to check with Bill
about the product.

Bob M.-

I'm not 100% sure it will work on the BBS you're describing, but there is an
offline reader called MaxiMiser ST that works just great on FoReM BBS, and
Turbo BBS systems. It is said to be quite compatible with the IBM world. It
uses QWK packets, and DOES compress them for reading offline.

It's shareware, and I'm sure there is at least one version in the libraries
here.

best regards,

Bob Brodie
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 10        Wed Dec 02, 1992
A.FASOLDT [Al Fasoldt]       at 18:30 EST

Bob Goff:

Thanks for the tip on Xcontrol. I also have seen memory listings rise and fall
with the moon's phases.

Nice to see you on GEnie, too, BTW.

Al

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 11        Wed Dec 02, 1992
J.BOSSOLINI1                 at 20:09 EST

Just tried the tip about the Xcontrol .inf file and it saved me 28K!!!
Thanks!!

Joe
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 12        Wed Dec 02, 1992
J.WISNIEWSK2 [Jeff - ST'er]  at 20:37 EST

  Strange that my X-Control panel already saves the INF file with a 1 on the
end.

                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                ^^^^    JSW    ^^^^
                ^^^^   ST'er   ^^^^
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Wednesday, December 2, 1992 - 8:29:24 pm
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 13        Sun Dec 06, 1992
R.RIDDLE3 [THE RIDDLER]      at 09:57 EST

Anyone know anything about the weather maps? What are they and how they work?


Riddler
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 14        Sun Dec 06, 1992
D.KELLER14 [AL GO RHYTHM]    at 23:53 EST

Anybody know anything about the HP Deskwriter?  I know the Deskjet works fine
with the ST, but I don't know the diff between it and the Deskwriter, and I
have an offer of a new one for under $300.  Anyone?
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 15        Mon Dec 07, 1992
EXPLORER.1 [ Ron ]           at 00:36 EST

The DeskWriter is intended for Macintosh computers and will not work on the
ST.

                     Ron @ Atari Explorer

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 17        Tue Dec 08, 1992
BOB-BRODIE [Atari Corp.]     at 19:49 EST

What Ron said....it's a whole 'nother critter.

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 18        Thu Dec 10, 1992
J.BRENNER1 [See Flat]        at 01:59 EST

I saw a mention of a hardware software package to do an overscan on the Mega
ST. It's by a company called AutoSwitch. Has anyone heard of this product,
know where I could find out about it?

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 19        Thu Dec 17, 1992
J.FOY2 [JLF]                 at 21:27 EST

       Blue lighting crashes on lynx II.
   Any help for that?
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 20        Fri Dec 18, 1992
D.ALVEAR1 [Dom Alvear]       at 03:03 EST

How does Blue Lightning crash?  What do you do to make it crash?  It works
fine on my Lynx II.

Dom
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 21        Fri Dec 18, 1992
J.FOY2 [JLF]                 at 21:07 EST

          I just play the game. About half way though    ]t  he first level it
crashes.     don't matter     what I do.
 ]*s
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 22        Sat Dec 19, 1992
J.MEEHAN3 [>> Joe M << ]     at 11:01 EDT

Message: 21, left on December 18, 1992  From: J.FOY2 [JLF]

    >I just play the game....it   crashes. ...

 JLF,

         Unless I missed the first part of your message string I think
 something when wrong.  Maybe your message is in the wrong Topic or
 GEnie missed part of it.

         What game are you having problems with and what computer
 (ST,Mega,TT etc.) are you using?


 >> Joe M <<

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 23        Sat Dec 19, 1992
BRIAN.H [ST~SysOp]           at 14:06 EST

Joe,
        The complete message thread was:

 >J.FOY2 [JLF]                 at 21:27 EST
 >
 >       Blue lighting crashes on lynx II.
 >   Any help for that?

 >Atari-ST RoundTable
 >Category 14,  Topic 5
 >Message 21        Fri Dec 18, 1992
 >J.FOY2 [JLF]                 at 21:07 EST
 >
 >          I just play the game. About half way though    ]t  he first level
it
 >crashes.     don't matter     what I do.


                                *******Brian*********
        Written on Saturday 19 December 1992 at 02:38 p.m. AST

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 24        Sat Dec 19, 1992
J.FOY2 [JLF]                 at 21:09 EST

       Blue lighting crashes on my Lynx II but,  Don't crash on my other (sold
but regular Lynx.) Shoot missiles and just regular game play, it crashes.
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 25        Tue Dec 29, 1992
J.BRENNER1 [See Flat]        at 12:06 EST

 I've been wondering, how many MIPS is a 1040 STf Since Falcon is 3.9 MIPS
(ten times less than SGI at one tenth of the price) I was wondering what the
ratio Falcon/1040 was.
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 26        Sun Jan 03, 1993
D.ALFONSO1 [D.ALFONSO]       at 01:34 EST

  Question:

I've got a number of GEM fonts that only have the high-res monitor version
with no printer fonts. How, exactly do I go about making the printer fonts?

I would assume that I just need to rescale the monitor fonts (using
GEMFED.PRG?) by enlarging them horizontally and vertically by an amount that
is proportionate to the difference between the screen resolution and the
printer resolution. I know that my Panasonic printer will do 180x180 or
360x360, but what is the screen resolution in hi-rez? Am I on the right track
or is there more to it than I'm guessing??

Thanx in advance

David

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 27        Sun Jan 03, 1993
F-D-PERCIVAL [Fred P.]       at 08:35 EST

David,

According to Fontz, the nominal resolution of HiRez screen fonts is 90x90. Try
that for converting to printer resolutions. Be warned that it requires a lot
of tedious work to create a smooth printer font from a screen font. Each
character has to be reworked.
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 29        Tue Feb 02, 1993
BOB-BRODIE [Atari Corp.]     at 15:54 EST

John,

I don't think that Motorola endorses the usage of the MIPS ratings any longer,
they've asked us to use MOPS as the standard measurement from now on. And I'm
not aware of any testing that was done on a 1040ST, sorry.

David,

Fred has given you some good information about GDOS fonts.  I'd encourage you
to check the libraries here, there are some good selection of fonts online
here on GEnie. Also, you might want to drop some e-mail to MIKE-FULTON.  Mike
is the author of the Fontz program that Fred refers to, and is an expert on
this sort of stuff.

There have been a series of font editors done in the past, along with Fontz!
there was an editor that Michtron sold (the name escapes me at the moment)
that did was a great product to have in conjuction with Fontz.

regards,

Bob Brodie
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 30        Tue Feb 02, 1993
J.BRENNER1 [See Flat]        at 18:58 EST

David,
      the font editor from michtron Bob regering to is called HyperFont.
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 31        Tue Feb 02, 1993
J.BRENNER1 [See Flat]        at 18:59 EST

I think that should be....."refering too"  :-)
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 32        Wed Feb 03, 1993
B.REHBOCK [BILL@ATARI]       at 11:00 EST

MOPS (Millions of Operations Per Second) is a rating standard that Motorola
uses for DSPs, due to the fact that multiple operations can be done in a
single cycle.  MIPS still holds for the 68K family.


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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 33        Sat Feb 06, 1993
J.PEABODY1                   at 20:09 EST

Question:

I purchased a Stacy at a tiny store in the UK two years ago.  It was sort of
'grey market', I guess, for the dealer did not have proper software nor a
manual for me.  I've wanted/needed a manual since March 1991!

This is a 2/40 machine, TOS 1.4, model LST2144.  Any idea how I can get a
manual for this machine (or any Stacy, for that matter)? (letters sent to
Sunnyvale have never been answered) Thanks!
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 34        Sun Feb 07, 1993
M.DRYSDALE [Drys]            at 09:30 EST

There never was a "STacy" manual.  STacys came with a generic (the same)
manual that ALL STs come with.  Some STacys had a few "Xeroxed' pages of
unimportant info.  Obvious stuff like, you may have a hard drive in your
STacy, those three dials control volume, backlight and contrast.  Basic stuff
you've figured out by now.

 Bottom line:  Ya didn't miss nuttin'.

Mike (POWER Computers)
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 35        Tue Feb 09, 1993
D.ALVEAR1 [Dom Alvear]       at 02:50 EST

J.PEABODY1:

You might want to try Best Electronics.  Here is the information:

 Best Electronics
 2021 The Alameda, Suite 290
 San Jose, CA 95126
 (408) 243-6950

Tell 'em Dom Alvear sent ya.  :-)

Ciao!

Dom

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 36        Tue Feb 23, 1993
K.SPRINGER1 [FROZEN NORTH]   at 21:29 EST

ATARI CORP.

There was an annoucement awhile ago that said you had purchased the rights to
the LDW Power spreadsheet.

If true, are you maintaining a database of registered users?  If so, I would
like to change the name on one of the copies of LDW.  I got it when I bought a
used TT.  I have original disks and manual.

Ken S.
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 37        Wed Feb 24, 1993
TOWNS [John@Atari]           at 19:12 EST

 At this point.. I'm sure what we are doing with LDW. I had heard that
 Atari has purchased the rights to LDW Power, but I don't know what our
 plans are for it at this point.

 When more information is available, I am sure we will make an
 announcement at that point.

 -- John
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 38        Wed Feb 24, 1993
K.SPRINGER1 [FROZEN NORTH]   at 23:12 EST

TOWNS

Any suggestion about what I should do in the meantime?  I LDW with a used TT I
bought, and already owned the latest version.  May sell the extra copy, and
would like to know what to tell the next purchaser.

Ken S.
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 39        Thu Feb 25, 1993
STEVE-J [FunkPopARoll]       at 04:10 EST

Maybe Atari just decided to waste some more money on something they're never
going to use -- like with WordUp! <grin>
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 40        Thu Feb 25, 1993
TOWNS [John@Atari]           at 14:08 EST

 Ken.. what do you mean? I am confused..
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 41        Thu Feb 25, 1993
J.ROBORECKY [RAILROAD]       at 21:40 EST

 B.REHBOCK            [BILL@ATARI]


 Bill

 Can you please provide me with the address and telephone number of
 D.O.A. makers of Blackmail.

                          Thank you

                          Joe

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 42        Thu Feb 25, 1993
K.SPRINGER1 [FROZEN NORTH]   at 22:30 EST

TOWNS, if I sell my extra copy of LDW (the one I got with the TT system I
bought), what do I tell the next owner about registering the program?  Which
also makes me curious about new purchasers of the software.

Ken S.
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 43        Fri Feb 26, 1993
J.BRENNER1 [See Flat]        at 03:31 EST

Railroad,
         From the software catalogue.


Digital-Optical-Analog P.O. Box 58413 Houston Texas 77258 Tel. 1-713-488-2134


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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 44        Fri Feb 26, 1993
B.REHBOCK [BILL@ATARI]       at 04:21 EST

Railroad:  Digital Optical Analog; P.O. Box 58413; Houston, TX 77258 1-713-488-
2134.

Their listing can be found in the Atari TOS International Software Catalog.
(plug :-)

-Bill@Atari

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 45        Fri Feb 26, 1993
J.ROBORECKY [RAILROAD]       at 07:54 EST

   See Flat
   BILL@ATARI

 Thanks to you both.

                   Joe

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 47        Sun Mar 14, 1993
CHAZ                         at 17:26 EST

I am trying to obtain a new motherboard for my TT.  The local dealer has had
no luck contacting Atari.  He has made several calls and left messages.  After
several months of trying, he has yet to have a call returned.  Is anyone here
able to assist?!
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 48        Sun Mar 14, 1993
D.D.MARTIN [Swampy]          at 19:33 EST

ACK!! CHAZ!!!  What happened to your TT mother board?

Hugs...Swampy
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 49        Tue Mar 16, 1993
M.DRYSDALE [Drys]            at 07:16 EST

I have a fax from Atari that answers the question.  It states that
exchange/replacement is not possible.  The PCB must be sent to Atari for
repair.  No cost for this service is stated.

 Editorial comment:  As a long time dealer and service center this is very
disappointing.  Other dealers have harsher comments about this situation.

 We had to ask because (I'll keep this short an nonincriminating) there is a
TT in this area that got hit by lightning.

Mike, GenTech and POWER Computers
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 50        Wed Mar 17, 1993
E.WISNIEWSK1 [Jeff - ST'er]  at 07:26 EST

  Oh no, the motherboard from hell.

                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                ^^^^    JSW    ^^^^
                ^^^^   ST'er   ^^^^
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Tuesday, March 16, 1993 - 6:15:44 am
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 51        Sat Mar 20, 1993
BOB-BRODIE [Atari Corp.]     at 23:14 EST

Ken,

I would suggest that you tell the purchaser of your spare copy of  LDW Power
to hold off sending in his registration card until the  arrangements on LDW
are complete. He's sure to be safe as long as he has his original diskettes,
too.  That way, when the eventual upgrade is done he will be able to upgrade
with a minimal amount of hassle.

Steve J-

Actually, we got a lot of mileage out of Word Up, and you'll see the results
in Atari Works. In the end it is turning out differently than we had
envisioned, but I think it is much better. I used to be a die hard Word Up
user, and even used the version the Mike Fulton fixed up for us here in
Sunnyvale for quite a long time...then switched to Word Flair II.  Now I'm
using Atari Works!

Chaz-

Hi Charlie...drop me a note in email and let's see what we can do.

I thought you'd sold your TT for a PC!  Let's talk...

Mike-

I appreciate your non-incriminating statement about that situation. I know you
will _equally_ appreciate me saying that I'm happy that the computer was hit
by lightning, and not you! <grin>  Out here, all we have to worry about is an
occasional shaker knocking the system around a little bit. Well,
ok...sometimes more than a little bit. <grin> But we dont' get the stuff outta
the sky too often here.

regards,

Bob Brodie
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 52        Sat Mar 20, 1993
P.GRIFFITH2 [PGRIF]          at 23:36 EST

   Bob,
     While I am glad that you think that Word-Up has helped in the development
of AW, I shudder to think of using any program with any links to Word-Up. I
will certainly not rush out to buy AW until I have heard a lot of praise for
it and no bad comments. My experience with Word-Up was not good and cost me
money and a lot of time and probably a year off my life.
      When AW and the font program(whatever it's called this month), and the
mythical Falcon, are actually available at an Atari dealer(if there are any)
maybe I'll be less cynical. I know it is not your fault, but if I didn't love
my ST so much, I would have bought a Mac years ago. Why? For Support.
    Paul
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 53        Sun Mar 21, 1993
K.SPRINGER1 [FROZEN NORTH]   at 13:18 EST

BOB-BRODIE

Is there something happening with LDW Power that we users would like to know,
or that I just missed? :-)

Ken S.
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 54        Mon Mar 22, 1993
STEVE-J [FunkPopARoll]       at 02:03 EST

BOB-BRODIE - I sure wish _I_ could have gotten a FIXED version of WordUp.
<grin>  I'm glad to hear that some of WordUp's great (working) features are
included in Atari Works.


P.GRIFFITH2 - Maybe that's why it's only recently come to light that Atari
Works has some of WordUp's features incorporated into it???  Ever since Atari
bought the source code to WordUp from NeoInept <grin>, they've been saying
that they have no immediate plans for it.  Maybe they KNOW the fiasco with
WordUp 3.0 hurt a lot of people, so they decided not to mention any
relationship w/ Atari Works.
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 55        Mon Mar 22, 1993
B.REHBOCK [BILL@ATARI]       at 05:05 EST

I'd like to clarify some confusion that I noticed a few messages ago... There
is no connection between Atari Works and Word-Up other than the fact that Mike
Fulton wrote the Spelling Checker interface in both applications.  We did
glean some of the features from Word-Up, but that's about it.

-Bill Rehbock, Director of Applications Software (and Product Manager for
Atari Works :-)


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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 56        Mon Mar 22, 1993
BOB-BRODIE [Atari Corp.]     at 13:38 EST

Paul,

If you wait for no bad comments about Atari Works, or any other program for
that matter, you'll never purchase another piece of software again. Software
has bugs, be it from MicroSoft, Word Perfect, Apple, or us.

I think if you check in the Atari Works topic, you'll see the praise is
already goin', and be sure to check AEO as well.  There has been a lot of
information, both visual and written in AEO regarding Atari Works.

Programmers are no different from other people, they learn from mistakes. A
word processor cost you a year off of your life???? Wow!

Steve,

I wish you could have gotten a fixed version of Word Up, too. But it was never
100% fixed, like I told Paul...there are always bugs. Seriously, if you liked
Word Up, you'll love Atari Works.

regards,

Bob Brodie
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 57        Mon Mar 22, 1993
G.ANDERSON                   at 19:41 EST

Yes Bob, but how soon can I get my hands of Atari Works?????? <grin>

My game plan is to upgrade to a TT in the June/July timeframe and to be
seriously good with AtariWorks by then.  Assuming, of course, that I've got a
reliable job by then <sad smile>.

Gregg <working at Computer STudio is great, but not what I've spent the last20
years training for <BIG smile>>
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 58        Mon Mar 22, 1993
D.WALTER7 [Doug Walter]      at 23:33 EST

Gregg,

Glad to see you survived the transition to stateside!  Are you a civilian now?

Doug7
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 59        Tue Mar 23, 1993
G.ANDERSON                   at 21:50 EST

Hi Doug.  Yup, I'm a civie now.  I'm still having a hard time getting used to
the idea.  God willing, I'll be finished with my Master's by the end of June
and will be out looking for a new career.  Can't live on what the're paying to
retired Captains these days <grin>. Gotta admit though, I'm doing a LOT better
than a lot of folks right now. it isn't a lot of $$ but it beats the living
#@%% out of getting nothing.

Gregg <looking for new Atari goodies to test/review>
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message  60       Wed Mar 24, 1993
S.WOLF4                      (Forwarded)

     I'd appreciate some comments on how I might best upgrade my
 present MEGA2 ST with 2 floppies, SM124 monitor, and SUPRA 2400.
 Perhaps some of my problems can be overcome with a more up-to-date
 system, or at least an expanded memory.  I don't want to go broke
 doing this, as I am also planning to get a new 486DX for some other
 work for which satisfactory ATARI commercial programs do not exist.
 I plan to keep the ATARI for what it does better -- besides, it isn't
 worth very much on the market if I wanted to sell it, which I don't.

     I am hoping to get one multisync color monitor which can be
 switched between the 2 systems, and, if reasonably possible, a hard
 disc drive which is also usable by both -- perhaps a Syquist removable
 media drive.  I suppose I could hunt down another Category/Topic
 which may be more appropriate, but you guys here know at least some of
 my problems and idiosyncrasies, so your comments would be welcome.

   Sandy

 *l
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 61        Wed Mar 24, 1993
D.A.BRUMLEVE [kidprgs]       at 08:37 EST

 Sandy, my husband just added a Syquest removable to our system that is
 dedicated to MIDI activities.  He put it in a mini-tower case and when
 he had it up and running, he decided to use the extra case space to
 add a 386 for use related to work.  He used The Link from ICD as the
 host adaptor.  The Syquest serves both machines (though not at the same
 time -- but this is not a problem, as we only use one system at a time).
 There were some headaches involved, but in general I'd say the modification
 was worthwhile.
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 62        Wed Mar 24, 1993
BOB-BRODIE [Atari Corp.]     at 15:35 EST

Sandy,

I would encourage you to upgrade your system to four megs of ram, and add a
hard disk to your system.  ICD makes terrific ones, and they also provide
wonderful support to their customers. I'm one of their customers, and can
attest to their helpfulness! :) Many of the applications today need at least
two megs in order to get going. You'll be a lot happier with a four meg
system. Also, the speed difference in a hard disk system/floppy system is just
amazing...you'll think you have a whole new machine!

I'd also suggest you be certain to get the latest version of our operating
system, TOS.  CodeHead Technology sells an adapter card called the TOS
Extension Card that will allow you to update your Mega ST to the version of
our operating system that runs in a  Mega STE, much nicer, more versatile,
more flexible, etc.

regards,

Bob Brodie
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 63        Thu Mar 25, 1993
J.MEEHAN3 [>> Joe M << ]     at 06:34 EST

Sandy,

         How best to upgrade your system depends on what kind of
 things you do and how you feel your system needs improvement.

         For example if you do DTP then you should consider one of the
 030 boards.  You need the faster processor and you might consider a
 big screen monitor.   If you do music then do get a removable hard
 drive or at least a floptical drive.  In other cases just adding a
 little software like Warp9, NeoDesk, UIS or CardFile will make it
 feel like a new machine.

 >> Joe M <<

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Message  74       Wed Mar 24, 1993
T.EVANS21 [<Ted E.>]         (Forwarded)

Sandy,

I take it you are working off two floppies?? No hard drive??

I would then suggest a hard drive.. New or used.. This is the single most
important addition to anyone's system as far as I am concerned...

2nd upgrade to 4 megs..  Then you could have a huge ram disk and 'almost'
avoid the 'out of memory" blurb.. We tend to use up all of our memory with
something, don't we?? :)

Then if you really needed/wanted a ram disk, I would recommend the Codehead's
utility package which includes best ram disk there is!! And a lot of other
good stuff.. Definitely worth the price of admissions...  :)...

And for GEnie-ing... Yes do get Aladdin...

Later,

 <-:}Ted{:->  Wednesday, March 24, 1993 - 8:20:44 am

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Message  75       Thu Mar 25, 1993
J.TOWLER1 [John]             (Forwarded)


 >S.WOLF4                      at 00:44 EST
 >
 >     I'd appreciate some comments on how I might best upgrade my
 > present MEGA2 ST with 2 floppies, SM124 monitor, and SUPRA 2400.

USA Flex might still have some NEC 3D multisync monitors. They sync low enough
to give you the color modes of the ST (the newer NECs like the 3FG etc. don't,
nor do most other recent multisyncs, which will only sync to the monochrome
mode). Also, the 3D has a memory so that you can set the size and centering
for each resolution once, and it will automatically recall those settings when
you change resolutions. Can be used with a clone, too. It's what I look at on
the clone at work. Good sharp image. But you better not wait long, 'cause
they've been out of production for quite a while. USA Flex may still have
some, new or reconditioned. They advertise in Computer Shopper.
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Message  76       Wed Mar 24, 1993
NTACTONE [Ron Hunter]        (Forwarded)

Sandy,
    I use, and heartily recommend the CodeRam ramdisk/print spooler,
 which is part of the CodeHead Utilities Package.  The ramdisk is
 reset proof, resizable (on cold boot), removable without reboot, and
 you can have a large ramdisk, or two ramdisks, or a ramdisk and a
 print spooler, and the print spooler even survives a reset!  Great
 program..
    I would say your expansion plans are pretty reasonable, but start
 with an upgrade to 4 meg.   There are several MultiSync monitors that
 will work on the ST, Acer makes one, and if you can find one of the
 older NEC Multisyncs, they are great.  The Syquest would be a good
 option, with the ICD Link Host Adapter.

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 77        Thu Mar 25, 1993
S.WOLF4                      at 23:46 EST

 D.A.B__[kidprgs]  --  What you and your husband have wrought, in
     general, is admirable.  Regarding the SyQuest installation for
     use with both an ST and a 386, can we prevail upon you to
     describe in somewhat more detail how it is done?

     IE, the ICD Link host adaptor is for the ST, I believe.  What is
     its counterpart for the 386?  Also, how do you switch between
     uses?  Just a toggle switch, or something more sophisticated?  Is
     it a SCSI drive?

     BTW, do you have a fixed hard drive?  If so, does it also serve a
     dual purpose?  Do you have one monitor for dual use; if so, which
     monitor do you use and how is it hooked up?

     I trust these are not family secrets.  I'm ready to do
     essentially the same if I can manage it.    Sandy

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 78        Thu Mar 25, 1993
S.WOLF4                      at 23:47 EST

 Bob [ATARI] Brodie --

     Your advice is appreciated.  The CodeHead TEC card is a sure
     thing.  Also the upgrade of my MEGA2 ST to 4 MB; and a hard disc
     will be on my desk somewhere.  There is a real problem associated
     with all this however.  I would prefer not to do the surgery myself,
     and I fear finding a dealer or experienced individual around here
     -- NYC yet -- will involve some searching.

     I am sure this is not unknown to you, but the 3 good dealers in
     this area that I knew of  -- J&R, Park Avenue, and Computers Etc.
     in Fairfield Conn -- and did all my business with, are either out
     of business (Park Ave.) or have phased out essentially all their
     ATARI business.  I called Computers Etc. this afternoon to see if
     they could do the job -- they could have as recently as 8 months
     ago when I was last there -- but NO!

     I will scan the topics here related to ATARI dealers and
     servicing after leaving this topic, but it's sure cold out here
     -- brrrrrr. . .

     I'm sure you personally are doing your best to reverse this state
     of affairs.  I was an ATC shareholder way back when.  (My MEGA2
     was paid for with the profits!  YES, ATC was once, briefly, a
     desirable investment!!!)  Right now, I just keep my fingers
     crossed and hope this great little computer keeps going.  It
     certainly has given me very few problems in its 4-5 years, but
     requirements change and obsolescence hits all.  A decision to put
     more money into this chassis is not easy, and it may even be
     reversed if the estimates I come up with are too high.

     Imagine, I can get a 486DX with 4MB, 100MB drive, etc. for not
     much more than I paid for my MEGA2.  Considering inflation, the
     real price is probably less the the MEGA's, although the eventual
     funds that go into it will probably be much more.  I would rather
     stick with ATARI, but ....?

     Sorry if this caught you unfairly.  But, here, you are ATARI.

     Sandy

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 79        Fri Mar 26, 1993
D.A.BRUMLEVE [kidprgs]       at 00:25 EST

 Sandy, Tim's the hardware man, so I'll ask him to prepare a short
 description.  He does not currently have a fixed drive in the system.
 That was his plan, however, but he ran into problems with the Supra
 he was using.

 The mini-tower case he bought (new) out of Computer Shopper costs under
 $60 and includes power supply and lots of bays.  He's currenly trying
 out a friend's CD-ROM in one of these bays...The ST is able to access it
 just fine.  Unfortunately, we don't happen to have any CD-ROMs with
 ST software, but we do have MIDI and picture files that we've loaded off
 the CD-ROM into both operating systems!

 He's got two floppies in the case, but I think they are hooked up only
 to the 386.

 In any case, I'll get the facts and post 'em here.  I should warn you that,
 while ultimately successful, it hasn't been an entirely pleasant
 experiment.

 ;-)
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Message 80        Fri Mar 26, 1993
S.WINICK                     at 06:07 EST

Sandy,

  SW> Your advice is appreciated.  The CodeHead TEC card is a sure
  SW> thing.  Also the upgrade of my MEGA2 ST to 4 MB; and a hard disc
  SW> will be on my desk somewhere.

For about the same price as doing all that 'upgrading' of your current 'ol
Mega, maybe even less, you could probably trade it in on a new MegaSTe with
4megs of RAM and an internal hard drive.  The MegaSTe already has the new
desktop and also runs along at twice the speed of your old system.  There are
numerous other enhancements with the newer system as well.  I'd recommend you
check out this option as well before investing a lot of money into 'upgrading'
an older system.

As for trying to compare the value of your old Mega2 to a new PC-cludge, uhhh,
I mean clone ;-), that's really not a fair comparison.  Now..... if you want
to compare your old Mega to a similarly aged clone, or a new Atari to that
'thing', now that would be more like it!  ;-]

Sheldon (Computer STudio - Asheville, NC)
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 81        Fri Mar 26, 1993
E.WISNIEWSK1 [Jeff - ST'er]  at 07:19 EST


 >I'd also suggest you be certain to get the latest version of our operating
 >system, TOS.  CodeHead Technology sells an adapter card called the TOS

As long as you can find the chips!,

                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                ^^^^    JSW    ^^^^
                ^^^^   ST'er   ^^^^
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Thursday, March 25, 1993 - 9:16:04 am
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Message 82        Fri Mar 26, 1993
S.WINICK                     at 07:47 EST

Jeff,

Codehead's TEC package includes a set of the new TOS chips.

Sheldon (Computer STudio - Asheville, NC)
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Message 83        Fri Mar 26, 1993
E.WELLS                      at 22:13 EST

I'm using the TT monitor, it has a switch on the back for PC emulation... Will
it then sync to normal pc vga?

ehw
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Message 84        Sat Mar 27, 1993
S.WOLF4                      at 02:05 EST

 SW>>  For about the same price as doing all that 'upgrading' of your
 SW>>  current 'ol Mega, maybe even less, you could probably trade it in
 SW>>  on a new MegaSTe with 4megs of RAM and an internal hard drive.

 Sheldon (of Computer STudio, NC)
     You have anticipated the very question I planned for this spot.
   So let's move on . . .

     My 1st priority -- sadly -- is bringing in a 486DX.  There is
   just no ATARI software for some applications I must get into (sigh).
   This opens up the possibility of a common HD or SyQuest -- a la
   the Brumleves (?) -- as well as a common color monitor.  My guess
   is the hardware in this paragraph will run ~2000.

     Secondly, my MegaST 2 probably requires upgrading if I am to get
   much more use from it.  This presents 2 possible doors:
     i)  upgrade to 4meg + TEC card
    ii)  trade in Mega2 + SM124 monitor + SF314 ext floppy (all in
         "like new" cond'n) for a MegaSTe4 (no HD) + SM147.  (Or
         possibly keep the SM124.)

     I've read somewhere that ATARI has a trade in policy.

     As you are obviously knowledgable, your advice would be helpful
   as to which way is preferable, approximate price comparisons, and
   whether or not trade-ins are being done these days.

    Sandy

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 85        Sat Mar 27, 1993
S.WINICK                     at 04:26 EST

Sandy,

Atari doesn't have a 'trade-in policy', but most dealers do. ;-]

Exactly WHAT software applications do you need to run on that ..... uh.....
clone ..... that are not available on the Atari platform?  Have you checked
the new International Atari Software catalog for what is available?  It's
available direct from Atari or from most dealers as well.

Sheldon (Computer STudio - Asheville, NC)
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 86        Sat Mar 27, 1993
S.WINICK                     at 04:39 EST

E.WELLS,

You might want to drop on by the TT030 Category (CAT 28) to share information
with other TT030 users.  And yes, the PTC works fine on that ..... "other"
platform.  Only problem will be trying to figure out what to do about the very
custom designed tilt-and- swivel stand that meshes so perfectly to the top of
the TT's case but sags pittifully when trying to stand on its own.

Sheldon (Computer STudio - Asheville, NC)
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 87        Sat Mar 27, 1993
G.NORTON [Falcon Systm]      at 14:15 EST

Sandy,

What you might want to consider, depending on the time frame you're looking at
(as far as getting a DOS box), is a Falcon with one of the Compo PC emulation
boards. This way you will have the latest Atari equipment and either a 286 or
486SX PC clone.

First though what sort of software did you want to run that wasn't available
for the ST.

Graham @ Falcon Systems
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 88        Sat Mar 27, 1993
E.WISNIEWSK1 [Jeff - ST'er]  at 16:43 EST

  Sheldon,

Remember Ted that just bought some from you.  We called about five other
dealers and they all said 'Out of Stock with no idea on when they were getting
them in'.  Hence my comment.

                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                ^^^^    JSW    ^^^^
                ^^^^   ST'er   ^^^^
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Saturday, March 27, 1993 - 4:32:18 pm
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 89        Sat Mar 27, 1993
R.WATSON15 [Wayne Watson]    at 16:46 EST

Sandy,
  I would really take a look at that SM147 before you traded (if you go that
route) it for a SM124. The SM124 looks a lot better and has a sharper screen
than the SM147. I couldn't live with having to use a SM147 after using this
SM124.

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 90        Sat Mar 27, 1993
J.BRENNER1 [See Flat]        at 18:24 EST

Just curious,
            Everytime I see someone talking about Atari monochrome I see the
model SM124 mentioned. Mine is an SM125.  What's difference is there between
the two models?

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Message 91        Sat Mar 27, 1993
A.FASOLDT [Al Fasoldt]       at 19:03 EST

E. Wells,

Yep, if you switch the TT monitor to PC emulation, you can use it with any PC
that has a VGA card.

Al

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 92        Sat Mar 27, 1993
S.WOLF4                      at 23:22 EST

 Sheldon and Graham --

     The principal use I am setting up is for financial analysis,
 investments, etc.  There is just one technical analysis program I am
 aware of for the ST: STalk The Market by Tom Bushaw of Quidnunc
 Software.  STM is a very good program which I have used, but it has
 its limitations which I now want to move beyond.  I will still use STM
 for its unique capabilities, but the best and widest variety of such
 programs are written for _86 systems.  The nature of this type of use
 is that one good investment pays for the computer et al, so this is
 the driving reason.

     A secondary reason is a bit of self indulgence.  I am a sailor
 with an olympic class racing dinghy.  Although the ST is a great game
 machine, the only decent sailing simulation programs are also confined
 to _86 platforms.  There is one I know of for the Mac, but none at
 all for the ST.

     I doubt that a scan of the ATARI Software Catalogue will come up
 with programs in these 2 somewhat special areas.  I'm sure I would
 have heard of them if they exist.  The Falcon "sounds" like a great
 machine to come; but I don't see playing around with emulators and
 such, especially for my principal use.  My ST uses will probably be
 satisfied for years with a modest upgrade to what I have.  Of course,
 if the Falcon revitalizes the ATARI world, maybe these two
 applications will attract the developers; I hope so, but am unwilling
 to wait that long.

 Sandy

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 93        Sat Mar 27, 1993
S.WOLF4                      at 23:23 EST

 Wayne W_

     That is a very interesting comment -- warning? -- re the SM147.
 I haven't seen the SM147, but just assumed that, as the more recent
 offering, it would be an improvement.  I am quite satisfied with my
 SM124 -- never heard of a SM125 -- and would just as soon keep it even
 if I upgraded the computer.  Thanks,  Sandy

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 94        Sun Mar 28, 1993
J.P.C.                       at 09:36 EST

S.WOLF4

I have seen the SM147. Wayne is right.
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 95        Sun Mar 28, 1993
R.WATSON15 [Wayne Watson]    at 10:05 EST

Sandy,
  Yea, the SM147 I saw had more of a grainy look to it. It looked aweful. I
guess I am used to the nice look of the SM124. I am refering to the screen
output not the design of the case BTW.

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 96        Sun Mar 28, 1993
F.BELL1 [Frank @ Home]       at 12:51 EST

See Flat,

An SM125 is better.  :-)

Frank...
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Message 129       Sun Apr 11, 1993
STEVE-J [FunkPopARoll]       at 04:17 EDT

Is there an upgrade path from the Associate Developer level to the Commercial
Developer level?
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 135       Mon May 03, 1993
D.ALFONSO1 [D.ALFONSO]       at 02:50 EDT

Hi,

I've been using a Seagate ST277-N hard drive via an ICD Host adapter for about
a year now (it was used) with no problems except that it was always a bit
noisy at power-on/off. Until recently, it always started up on the first try
after my STE finished the memory test. Then, it started requiring an extra
power-down before it would boot. Now, it's gotten totally flaky and will
sometimes boot up, work for awhile (anywhere from 5 seconds to a couple of
hours) and then I hear it slow down and I can't access it again until I get a
lucky power-on again. I've, fortunately, been able to back it up before it
goes south for good (which I hope is avoidable).

What I was wondering is: Is this a common symptom that may have a reasonable
solution, or is this drive destined for the junk heap?

I've tried reformatting it, but the symptoms persist.

Sorry for the lengthy description, but I though it might help narrow the
problem down for those of you with more experience.

Thanx in advance........David

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 136       Tue May 04, 1993
R.MORROW10 [Bob M.]          at 00:33 EDT

David-

It sounds like you might have a bad connector problem somewhere. Or, maybe
your STe's power supply has given up. (They aren't the strongest)  I had a
1040 STf when I got this HD (Seacrate ST296N with ICD AdScsi+ host adapter)
and it flat refused to reliably work with the HD, so I ditched it in favor of
this STe.  No problems since. (Methinks it was the p/s that went south, but I
was looking for a reason to get rid of it anyhow...)
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 137       Tue May 04, 1993
D.ALFONSO1 [D.ALFONSO]       at 02:48 EDT

Bob M.,

Thanx for the reply.

I've used another HD with the same computer with no problems, so I'm presuming
it's not the computer. Any other suggestions?

David

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 138       Wed May 05, 1993
MIKE-ALLEN [NM~SysOp]        at 03:00 EDT

David,

Your ST277N is on it's way to becoming a door stop - just like mine. It is
developing what is known as 'terminal stickies!'  This is very common with the
5-1/4 inch Seagate drives.

I recommend that you IMMEDIATELY back up everything on the drive that you
value.  Then go to your nearest book store and buy a copy of Computer Shopper.
Start looking for a Maxtor or Quantum SCSI drive that will fill your needs.
Order same.  When it arrives, remove the Seagate and use it to prop your door
open.  Replace it with your newer, quieter, faster and maybe even bigger
drive.  You won't be sorry.


        Mike Allen
        ST HelpDesk~SysOp


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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 139       Fri May 07, 1993
D.ALFONSO1 [D.ALFONSO]       at 19:07 EDT

Bob M.

As it turns out, you may have been right on the money about my Hard Drive
problem. I thought you meant that the power supply in my Atari might be the
problem, but I guess you meant the supply for the drive. I tried using the
power supply from another case on the problem mechanism and it booted up right
away. Then I went around the problem case, wiggled all the connections, and
found that the host adapter was a bit loose (this drive gets moved around
quite a bit). I tightened up the adapter board and, for now everything seems
to be working OK. Thanks for the lead!

David

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 140       Sat May 08, 1993
D.ALFONSO1 [D.ALFONSO]       at 00:42 EDT

NM~SysOp,

Believe me, if I had a few spare $ right now I'd do just that. If it keeps
working for now, I'll just have to make due. I've heard good things about the
Quantums....

thanx for the advice....David

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 141       Sat May 08, 1993
R.MORROW10 [Bob M.]          at 21:48 EDT

Dave-

No problem, but I really did mean the computer p/s!  Oh well, I'll take the
thanks anyhow <G>.  Do you have an Atari hard drive?  Then it may well be the
hard drive's p/s....
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 142       Wed May 12, 1993
E.BAIZ                       at 21:55 EDT

A friend of mine is having trouble with his TT. it seems the stereo sound is
not good. He keeps getting a humming sound. He is an electronic wiz and could
do the job himself, but he needs a schematic of the TT. I 'would think these
are only available to dealers. Our dealer was no help and Toad Computers,
where he bought it, was absolutely no help. They told my friend they lost
their manual. Is there anyone he can call for help. He wants to start
programming, but cannot until this is fixed.
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 143       Thu May 13, 1993
SFRT-ASST [Kenne@SFRT]       at 02:52 EDT

Perhaps Best Electronics.
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Message 144       Thu May 13, 1993
J.MEEHAN3 [>> Joe M << ]     at 08:07 EST

Message    142, Wed May 12, 1993 E.BAIZ

         If you are on the east coast you might try:

  S.WINICK <- GEnie address        Ashvill  NC Dealer
  Computer STudio  co-host of the Blue Ridge Atari Fest

         Sorry I don't have his address handy.

         Left coast try:

  Best Electronics
  2021 The Alameda  Suite 290
  San Jose, CA  95126
  Work phone: (408) 243-6950

 >> Joe M <<


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Message 145       Thu May 13, 1993
D.ALFONSO1 [D.ALFONSO]       at 20:59 EDT

Howdy,

I recently aquired a DAT deck and was wondering if there is any way to use it
with the Atari to back up the hard drive. I presume the DVT-VCR unit (which I
already have) would work like it does with VCR's, but I want some way to back
up partitions containing more than 1000 files in one go. Seymor/Radix no
longer plans any support for the DVT, so an upgrade is unlikely.

Any ideas?

David

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Message 146       Fri May 14, 1993
J.MEEHAN3 [>> Joe M << ]     at 20:31 EST

David,

         You might want to stop by the Diamond Back topic and see what
 is planned for version III.

 >> Joe M <<

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Message 147       Sat May 15, 1993
T.YURICK [T.YURICK]          at 12:25 EDT

Joe...

Backing up to a DAT deck would require a hardware interface, which Oregon
Research wouldn't be able to help with (last time I knew).
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Message 148       Tue Jun 15, 1993
M.PAULI [Small Mike]         at 08:09 EDT

 I d/l the new HDX503 file from ATARI and found that the INSITE-drive is
"recognized" but that's about it...no formatting or partitioning is possible.
 The WINCAP-file has no SPECIFIC data for 20meg-Flopticals. Is this a  plain
mistake or what...?

We Floptical-owners would really like to get some decent features as others
already have...!

        Mike
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Message 149       Tue Jun 15, 1993
TOWNS [John]                 at 11:35 EDT

 The HDX program recognizes all SCSI devices by requesting info
 from the drive. That doesn't mean that it supports them.

 Has Atari announced that they are planning to support 20 Meg
 Floptical drives yet?
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Message 150       Tue Jun 15, 1993
ATARI.BENLUX [W. Kilwinger]  at 14:40 EDT

M.PAULI [Small Mike]
 >
 > I d/l the new HDX503 file from ATARI and found that the INSITE-drive is
 >"recognized" but that's about it...no formatting or partitioning is
possible.
 > The WINCAP-file has no SPECIFIC data for 20meg-Flopticals. Is this a  plain
 >mistake or what...?
 >
 >We Floptical-owners would really like to get some decent features as others
 >already have...!

SCSI drives DON'T need the be specified in the WINCAP file since the SCSI
standard has a build in format call that does the job automaticly. The
floptical is an SCSI device and will work perfectly with HDX 5.03c on a TT and
on a Falcon030. What kind of system do you have ?

Just choose format, pass some warning boxes, choose the right SCSI ID, click
OK and that will be it !!

Same for partitioning.

And make sure that the in the HDX503 archive supplied SHDRIVER.SYS is the
active driver in your system. Otherwise it won't work.

Regards,

Wilfred

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Message 151       Tue Jun 15, 1993
ATARI.BENLUX [W. Kilwinger]  at 14:47 EDT

John
 >
 > The HDX program recognizes all SCSI devices by requesting info
 > from the drive. That doesn't mean that it supports them.
 >
 > Has Atari announced that they are planning to support 20 Meg
 > Floptical drives yet?

Yes, we did: ---------- These Hard Drive utilities are the latest for the
Falcon030 as of June 8th, 1993  =1993 Atari Corporation

These utilities also now have the following support:

AHDI 6.05c will allow you to read and write to the InSite I235VM floptical
drive.  (Note: this drive takes at least a 10-12 second spin up time before
booting the computer)

HDX 5.03c will be able to format and partition the InSite I235VM floptical
drive. -------------

And they have been tested on the TT and the Falcon030 and proved to work
correctly.

Regards,

Wilfred

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Message 152       Tue Jun 15, 1993
TOWNS [John]                 at 16:13 EDT

 Cool! Thanks for the news, Wilfred. That's great news..
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Message 153       Wed Jun 16, 1993
M.PAULI [Small Mike]         at 07:04 EDT

 John, Wilfred,

Thanks for the quick reply.

I got E-mail from Bill R. in the regard that HDX503 only work for TT and
FALCON...specifically. Since I didn't have success with them in past I had
hoped that the new version will help...

 I use a 520STFM, TOS 1.4, 4megs, ICD-LINK, INSITE Floptical (terminated);

The INSITE is recognized by the new prg, but on formatting-attempts I get the
box (after the warnings etc.) that it is NOT recognized. Therefore I can't
format or partition the INSITE.

 The ICD-software which came with the LINK-adaptor DOES format the  Floptical-
floppies but doesn't allow partitioning. It is not a big thing but on certain
discs it WOULD be nice...

 I'm not aware if ICD improved the Floptical-software to include
partitioning, they don't keep Floptical-related software in their on-line-
library here (why not?).


 I hope I didn't sound to frustrated...my Floptical gives me much pleasure and
I share it with my K2000-synth which keeps its big sound-samples on it.
 KURZWEIL uses a propriety-format for their samples, therefore I can't mix
data but it is not a problem.

 I'm still learning about the little fine points of SCSI and the interaction
with my ATARI but on a day-to-day-basis it works JUST FINE and proves again
and again what a great combination ATARI and MIDI are.

      see you later here

         Mike
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Message 154       Wed Jun 16, 1993
J.NESS [Jim]                 at 16:52 EDT

Speaking of hard drives...

I just brought my old Mega 2 into CompuSeller West to have it upgraded to TOS
2.06 and 4 megs.

Afterward, I remembered (fuzzily) something about potential problems with TOS
2.06 and the Supra hd driver.  True?

I'd really be disgusted, if I had to reformat the drive...

                              -JN
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Message 155       Wed Jun 16, 1993
DABRUMLEVE [kidprgs]         at 17:54 EDT

 Jim, maybe what you are remembering is that 2.06 supports partitions
 >16meg whereas your old TOS didn't -- so your Supra drive was previously
 formatted to 16meg partitions or less.  We haven't had any trouble with
 using Supra drives, even with the old formatting, on our TEC-upgraded
 Mega.  Unless somebody else can think of something further, I doubt you
 have anything to worry about.
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Message 156       Thu Jun 17, 1993
J.NESS [Jim]                 at 17:57 EDT

Thanks, Dorothy.

You're right, I now remember that the big deal was about how the various hard
disk drivers handled partitions larger than 16 meg.  As it happens, mine are
all <16 meg, so I'm okay.

Thanks.

                                -JN
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 157       Thu Jun 24, 1993
R.MORROW10 [Bob M.]          at 23:58 EDT

Has anyone here been able to get KONG.TOS to uncompress on TOS 2.06? It just
locks up my STe.
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 158       Fri Jun 25, 1993
TALISMAN                     at 10:32 EDT

  Hi everyone!  Where can I find info on the new 286 and 486 emulators?  Both
files and messages..  They're going to play a pivotal role in the purchase of
my Falcon030!  (and my ability to convince firends and associates to BUY
ATARI!)

Talisman (Buy Atari and tell them I sent you!)


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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 159       Fri Jun 25, 1993
ARCHIVIST [Charlie]          at 12:44 EDT

Bob, I tested the Kong.TOS file on my MSTE with TOS 2.05 before I released it
to the public. I didn't have any trouble uncompressing it and I don't think
there's that much difference between TOS 2.05 and 2.06 to bother it. Is there
anything in your system that might cause a problem, or did you have any
problems with the download?

Charlie/sysop-librarian
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 160       Fri Jun 25, 1993
MYECK.WATERS [myeck]         at 22:16 EDT

Is KONG.TOS a self-extracting archive?  If so, it can probably be un-arced
with STZIP or LHARC.  I've done that before.

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 161       Fri Jun 25, 1993
BRIAN.H [ST~SysOp]           at 23:42 EDT

No Kong.TOS is simply a TOS and should be 146816.


~~~~Brian ...   Written on Saturday 26 June 1993 at 00:29 a.m. ADT

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 162       Sat Jun 26, 1993
R.WHITTAM                    at 14:48 EDT

I am having CRC ERRORS when downloading STZIP22.TOS from the library, (file
#27832).  With ZMODEM:  I start the download (using Aladdin or not) and get
the message RECEIVING PACKET, then I get the message CRC ERROR.  These
messeges repeat for about a minute and then the download aborts.  I have tried
it with XMODEM with similar results.

NOTE:  I have successfully downloaded from GEnie using ZMODEM.

Ron Whittam Atari Boise User Group President '93
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 163       Sat Jun 26, 1993
R.MORROW10 [Bob M.]          at 20:24 EDT

KONG.TOS won't work with Warp 9's screen acceleration set on with my TOS 2.06
setup. Found the fix.
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 166       Sat Jul 03, 1993
F.BELL1 [Frank @ Home]       at 08:29 EDT

Bob,

I've had no problem running Kong on a MegaST using TOS2.06.  Haven't tried it
on my STE though.

Frank...
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 167       Thu Jul 08, 1993
S.EAKINS [SCOOTS]            (Forwarded)

 O.K.,  Here's a couple of questions that I hope some knowlegable Mega
 owner can answer.

 I recently purchased a Mega ST (not STe) and am now using TOS 1.4.
 My 520 STe has 1.62, and I am wondering if their is anything that I
 need to patch with software in the 1.4 version.

 secondly, I opened the case a little fast tonight, and pulled the
 battery leads off of whatever they were connected to on the
 motherboard.  Does anyone know where to connect these back to so that
 my clock will work properly?

 Please feel free to coment on any of these,

 Thanks,

 Scott
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 168       Fri Jul 09, 1993
EXPLORER.5 [Robert Goff]     at 00:15 EDT

Scoots, I use TOSFIX2 and POOLFIX3 with my TOS 1.04. SERIALFIX is still needed
with 1.62 to correct the rts/cts handling of  the serial port, so you probably
already know about it.

I couldn't tell you where to hook those battery leads without taking mine
apart to look. Not tonight, I'm afraid. Maybe someone else can help with that.

 |) |
 |)O|)
 Robert Goff
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 169       Fri Jul 09, 1993
ALGORHYTHM [DanielKeller]    at 09:24 EDT

Scoots,

The battery leads are in two parts....one part connects from the battery pack
(housed in the top shell cover) to a modular plug.  This is the part that
usually breaks when people pull the top off too fast.  The leads sould need to
be re-soldered to the battery clip terminals.  The other half goes from the
corresponding modular socket into the PC of the Mega (under the RF
shield)....I haven't been into mine for a while, and don't remember exactly
where they connect, but if this end has come undone, you'll need to remove the
RF shield (done by turning the clips all around the sides of it with a small
pliers) and look inside...it'll be pretty obvious where they came off from.
Unlikely that this end came up, though, since the shield usually prevents it
from happening.

DK
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 170       Fri Jul 09, 1993
K.SPRINGER1 [FROZEN NORTH]   at 22:30 EDT

Scoots,

In my Mega 4 the batt leads at the circuit board end terminate in a 2 prong,
brown, male connector, basically under the batt area.

Hope this helps.

Ken S.
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 171       Sat Jul 10, 1993
R.MORROW10 [Bob M.]          at 02:42 EDT

Scoots-

TOS 1.04 should use POOLFIX3.PRG, SERFX20.PRG (which incorporates TOS14FX2.PRG
and maybe Poolfix?) in AUTO.

TOS 1.62 should use SERFIX20.PRG.  I don't know if you'll need POOLFIX.
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 172       Sun Jul 11, 1993
STEVE-J [Steve @ NLS]        at 05:27 EDT

TOS 1.06 requires POOLFIX, but TOS 1.62 does not.
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 173       Sun Jul 11, 1993
G.LEONE [Gerry]              at 22:59 EDT

Would someone explain to me what SERIALFIX (or whatever you called it) does
for TOS 1.62?

I've been running TOS 1.62 on my STe for almost 2 years and have never run
into any problems.  Too, I'd read that there were no "FIX" programs needed for
1.62.

Thanks in advance!

  -Gerry
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 174       Mon Jul 12, 1993
J.MEEHAN3 [>> Joe M << ]     at 05:08 EST

Gerry,

         As I understand it you probably will not need SERIALFIX
 unless you get a high speed modem (faster than 2400 baud), or are
 using the serial port for some other high speed device.

 >> Joe M <<


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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 175       Mon Jul 12, 1993
R.WATSON15 [Wayne Watson]    at 05:24 EDT

  Well, TOS 2.06 is not supposed to need a serial port fix either but, I have
to use one or I get repositioning errors with Zmodem. I recommend a serial
port fix program for all TOSes and those using high speed modems. Some people
have problems even on those TOSes that are supposed to be fixed.

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 176       Mon Jul 12, 1993
ATARI.BENLUX [W. Kilwinger]  at 15:04 EDT

In reaction on the yes/no discussion about needed patches here in this topic
once again a RESEND of a text file made by John Townsend in his good old Atari
days. I didn't edit it although John doesn't work for the company anymore:

 =======================================================================
              TOWNS' LITTLE GUIDE TO REVISIONS - VERSION 1.0
              ----------------------------------------------
               Written by John Townsend, Atari Corporation
 =======================================================================
   This is a small document that explains in very terse terms the
 differences between the TOS revisions available for ST/MEGA/STE/Mega
 STE/TT machines, what patches are needed for what revisions, the formats
 they are available in, and any notes I can think of.
  I hope this will clear up some of the confusion with the different TOS
 versions.  If you have any questions on this document, please let me
 know here on GEnie.  My GEnie Address is: TOWNS.
  Special thanks to Leonard Tramiel, Allan Pratt, and Doug Wheeler for
 their involement with this little Document.  Thanks again!
  Comments are welcome..

                                        -- John Townsend
                                           Atari Corp.

 ROM TOS (TOS 1.0)
 -------
 The original ROM TOS, this version shipped in 520ST and 1040ST machines.
 It is no longer shipping in any machines.
    Formats:   2 chip ROMs, 6 chip ROMs
  Machines:   520ST, 1040ST
 Utilities:   FOLDRXXX.PRG
  FOLDRXXX.PRG will add more entries into your OS Pool.  In TOS 1.0 and
 TOS 1.02, the limit for the number of directories that you can enter is
 around 40.  With this program you can extend that limit much higher.  If
 you are using a hard drive, this program is recommended highly.  It will
 work with all TOS versions and will improve the performance of your
 system.

 Notes:   GET TOS 1.04 TODAY!  TOS 1.04 is the latest version of TOS for
          520/1040/MEGA owners.  It is MUCH faster, has faster, better
          disk I/O, many other improvements.
  MEGA TOS (TOS 1.02)
 --------
 This is commonly referred to as MEGA TOS. This version of TOS fixes some
 minor problems in TOS 1.0 and has support for the BLiTTER chip and Real-
 Time Clock chip.

   Formats:   2 chip ROMs, 6 chip ROMs
  Machines:   520ST, 1040ST, Mega 2, Mega 4
 Utilities:   FOLDRXXX.PRG
  FOLDRXXX.PRG is explained above.

    Notes:   See notes for TOS 1.0.. GET TOS 1.04 TODAY!


 Rainbow TOS (TOS 1.04)
 -----------
 TOS 1.04 or Rainbow TOS, as it is commonly known is the latest version
 of TOS available for 520/1040/MEGA owners.  It has been available as a
 dealer upgrade for awhile now.  It has much more robust Disk I/O,
 Autorunning of GEM programs at boot up, a fix for the 40 folder limit,
 and much more.  Most of all is it much faster than previous versions of
 the Operating System.

   Formats:   2 chip ROMs, 6 chip ROMs (available as Upgrade!)
  Machines:   Stacy
 Utilities:   TOS14FIX.PRG, POOLFIX3.PRG, CACHEXXX.PRG, FOLDRXXX.PRG
  TOS14FIX.PRG solves some small problems in the AES (for additional
 information, please see the documentation that accompanies the
 TOS14FIX.PRG program).
  POOLFIX3.PRG fixes a bug in GEMDOS.  Documentation that accompanies the
 POOLFIX3.PRG program explains (in detail) the problem that it fixes.

 CACHEXXX.PRG is a new program that adds GEMDOS buffers to your system.
 The caching of data and disk directories by GEMDOS (when this program is
 used) will result in your system running much faster!  This program is
 highly recommended and requires TOS 1.04 or higher for full benefits!
  FOLDRXXX.PRG is explained above.
  Notes:   Please use the utilities available and if you haven't upgraded
          to this version of TOS yet.. please consider doing so.  It's a
          very worthwhile upgrade.

          There are some disk-based versions of _early_ developer only
          releases of TOS 1.04 floating around on BBS systems here in the
          United States and abroad.  Please don't use them!  They are bad
          news!  They have some very nasty bugs and have been known to
          corrupt data!

 STE TOS, Rev 1 (TOS 1.06)
 --------------
 TOS 1.06 is the TOS version that is shipped with the 1040STE and 520STE
 machines.  It is essentially TOS 1.04 with support for the new hardware
 that the STE has.
    Formats:   2 chip ROMs
  Machines:   520STE, 1040STE
 Utilities:   STE_FIX.PRG, POOLFIX3.PRG, CACHEXXX.PRG, FOLDRXXX.PRG
  STE_FIX fixes the infamous Desktop Medium/Low resolution bug.  The
 problem is that there is a bug in the desktop code in this version of
 TOS that prevents the user from booting into Medium Resolution.  The
 patch program STE_FIX will solve the problem.  Once it is executed in
 the AUTO folder, the problem no longer exists.
  FOLDRXXX.PRG, CACHEXXX.PRG, and POOLFIX3.PRG are explained above.
  Notes:   This version is only available in 1040STE and 520STE machines.
          It isn't available for upgrading.  It won't work in older
          machines.

 STE TOS, Rev 2 (TOS 1.62)
 --------------
 This is a slightly revised revision of TOS 1.6.  It fixes the POOLFIX
 problem in GEMDOS and the problem in the Desktop that was present in
 TOS 1.06.
    Formats:   2 chip ROMs
  Machines:   520STE, 1040STE
 Utilities:   CACHEXXX.PRG, FOLDRXXX.PRG
  CACHEXXX.PRG and FOLDRXXX.PRG are explained above.

 Notes:   This version is only available in 1040ST and 520STE machines.
          It isn't available for upgrading.
  Mega STE TOS (TOS 2.05)  ------------
 TOS 2.05 is the version of TOS currently shipping in the Mega STE.
    Formats:  2 chip ROMs
  Machines:  Mega STE
 Utilities:  CACHEXXX.PRG, FOLDRXXX.PRG
  CACHEXXX.PRG and FOLDRXXX.PRG are explained above.
  Notes:  This version is only available in the Mega STE.  It isn't
         available for upgrading.
  TT TOS (TOS 3.01)  ------
 TOS 3.01 is the version of TOS that originally shipped in the TT030.
    Formats:  4 chip ROMs
  Machines:  TT030
 Utilities:  CACHEXXX.PRG, FOLDRXXX.PRG
  CACHEXXX.PRG and FOLDRXXX.PRG are explained above.
  Notes:  This version is only avaible in the TT030.  It isn't available
         for upgrading.
  TT TOS (TOS 3.05)
 ------
 TOS 3.05 is the latest version of TOS currently shipping in the TT030.
    Formats:  4 chip ROMs
  Machines:  TT030
 Utilities:  CACHEXXX.PRG, FOLDRXXX.PRG, SERPTCH1.PRG
  CACHEXXX.PRG and FOLDRXXX.PRG are explained above.
  Notes:  This version is only avaible in the TT030.  It isn't available
         for upgrading.


Regards,

Wilfred

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 177       Mon Jul 12, 1993
G.LEONE [Gerry]              at 22:19 EDT

  Thanks for the SERIALFIX info, Joe.  However...

 >         As I understand it you probably will not need SERIALFIX
 > unless you get a high speed modem (faster than 2400 baud), or are
 > using the serial port for some other high speed device.

I _AM_ using the serial port for a little plug-in gizmo that plugs into a MIDI
keyboard to give me 16 additional MIDI channels.  Does MIDI count as "high
speed"?  (I'm not being facetious.)

  -Gerry
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 178       Mon Jul 12, 1993
TOWNS [John]                 at 22:22 EDT

 Someone at Atari can feel free to edit that document concerning TOS
 revisions. I wrote it while on company time so the document is owned
 completely by Atari. Besides, I don't have the information neccessary
 to update it! ;-)

 -- John Townsend
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 179       Tue Jul 13, 1993
C.CASSADAY [Chris C.]        at 02:35 EDT

Gerry,

 >I _AM_ using the serial port for a little plug-in gizmo that plugs
 >into a MIDI keyboard to give me 16 additional MIDI channels.  Does
 >MIDI count as "high speed"?  (I'm not being facetious.)
 >
 >  -Gerry

Are you using a MIDIPlexer by Hybrid Arts, or something similar?  My friend
used SMPTE Track Platinum with a MIDIPlexer and he did not require any serial
port fixes on his TT030 - TOS 3.06.

Chris

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 180       Tue Jul 13, 1993
STEVE-J [Steve @ NLS]        at 06:19 EDT

G.LEONE - No TOS version has ever handled RTS/CTS flow control correctly.
SERIALFX.PRG fixes that.  Flow control is usually only used on 9600+bps
modems.  Other than that, there are no FIX programs for TOS 1.62, but there
ARE some programs like FOLDRXXX.PRG (to extend the TOS folder limit) and
CACHENNN.PRG that are recommended for use with ALL TOS versions.  However,
CACHENNN.PRG isn't needed and ICD's HD booter has its own folder limit
extension (and cache) capabilities.
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 181       Tue Jul 13, 1993
A.FASOLDT [Al Fasoldt]       at 07:38 EDT

But, John, we like that TOS document the way it is!

:)

Al


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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 182       Tue Jul 13, 1993
G.LEONE [Gerry]              at 23:41 EDT

Chris & Steve --

Thanks.  Guess I'll wait 'till I get a 9600 baud modem to bother with
SERIALFX... the MIDI gizmo seems to be working fine so far.

By the way, Chris, it's a "16+" by a place called Tran Tracks.  Cost $50 and
works like a charm.  I'd recommend it to anyone.

  -Gerry
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 183       Wed Jul 14, 1993
J.MEEHAN3 [>> Joe M << ]     at 06:53 EST

Message    177, Mon Jul 12, 1993 G.LEONE [Gerry]


    >  Does MIDI count as "high speed"?                             <

         I don't have the slightest.

         Sorry.

 >> Joe M <<

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 184       Wed Jul 28, 1993
J.DERNAR                     at 22:21 EDT

I can't seem to remember how to get rid of a program getting run at boot-up
even though I removed it from the AUTO folder. It was a program by compuware
that set the seek speeds for their high density formatter . Like I said, I
deleted the program and any traces of it on drive C. But it still runs at boot-
up and gives me a goofey message in German about a virus on a boot sector.

Also, having trouble setting the internal clock on MEGA4 tos2.06  running NEO
DESK. I set the clock using NEO and when I re-boot, it is all wrong again.
Yes, new batteries. Thanks for any help!   John
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 185       Thu Jul 29, 1993
J.MEEHAN3 [>> Joe M << ]     at 05:29 EST

Message    184, Wed Jul 28, 1993 J.DERNAR

 John,

         That program is somewhere.  You might try disabling all your
 auto programs (rename them *.prx) See if still is running.  If it is
 look for a hidden program.  MaxiFile or UIS can display hidden files
 and you can then delete them.

         If it does not show up with all the other programs disabled,
 try adding them back one at a time.  When you find the offender
 delete that program and reboot then reinstall that program from your
 original disk.

         As for the time problem it sounds like you are not getting
 the time saved to your battery clock.  ICD has a program to handle it
 and you can get it for free from ICD.


 >> Joe M <<

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 186       Thu Jul 29, 1993
A.FASOLDT [Al Fasoldt]       at 08:16 EDT

John,

If the program is not in the AUTO folder and not a desk accessory, it must be
a little program stuck in the boot sector of the drive. Are you booting from a
floppy? if so, use another disk.

Al

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 187       Thu Jul 29, 1993
M.HERZIG [BeebleBrox]        at 18:22 EDT

Recently one of my SM124s died. The local repair shop (not ATARI) were able to
replace the infamous C714. Apparently there is one another component bad: It's
a Flyback Transformer KF2807G. The guy says none of his suppliers can get him
the part. I called already at BEST electronics and Toad with no success. Has
anybody an idea where to look?

Please, leave me Email as I don't drop in on this topic very often.

Thank you!

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 188       Thu Jul 29, 1993
M.HERZIG [BeebleBrox]        at 18:28 EDT

Recently one of my SM124s died. The local repair shop (not ATARI) were able to
replace the infamous C714. Apparently there is one another component bad: It's
a Flyback Transformer KF2807G. The guy says none of his suppliers can get him
the part. I called already at BEST electronics and Toad with no success. Has
anybody an idea where to look?

Please, leave me Email as I don't drop in on this topic very often.

Thank you!

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 189       Thu Jul 29, 1993
M.SLAGELL [Mark]             at 19:50 EDT

What Al said.  Y'know, the same bootsector bandit may be ambushing your clock
too.
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 190       Thu Jul 29, 1993
O-ZONE [Flakes]              at 20:56 EDT

Zaphod,

  LOL!
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 191       Thu Jul 29, 1993
J.DERNAR                     at 21:27 EDT

Thanks for all the help with the mystery program. Seems that now that  the CPU
has been off for a day, the program has gone away..hummmm? Maybe I was only
doing a warm as opposed to a cold reset? Thanks anyhow.
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 192       Fri Jul 30, 1993
G.FUHRMAN [gnox]             at 07:25 EDT

Better run a virus check anyway just to make sure ...

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 193       Fri Jul 30, 1993
R.MORROW10 [Bob M.]          at 20:29 EDT

Maybe you have a program that is designed to auto-run AFTER the AUTO folder
has run it's programs.  Look into your NEWDESK.INF file.  It looks something
like:

 #a000000
 #b000000
 #c7770007000600070055200505552220770557075055507703111103
 #d
 #Z 01 C:\WARP9CNF.PRG@
 #K 4F 49 53 7F 46 57 43 42 41 58 00 00 54 4E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 @
 #E 98 12 00 1A
 #Q 41 40 43 40 43 40

and so on.  Note that Warp9cnf.prg is my auto-running program.  If this is the
case, just delete this line and save.
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 194       Wed Aug 04, 1993
G.KICHOK [Gerry K]           at 02:09 EDT

Anyone,

PLEASE SOMEONE HELP ME, before I loose my sanity!

Is this possible?

I bought a used MEGA ST4 which had a bad floppy eject button. I checked the
drive before I attempted to repair it and things seemed okay, except the
eject.

I had merely taken my old 520ST out of my system and placed the MEGA ST4 into
it spot on the desk, hooked things back up and rebooted. OK

When I worked on the diskette drive, I turned everything off and unplug
everything.

After fixing the drive I put everything back together but neglected to turn my
external diskette drive ON after plugging it in. It is the newer EPSON type
drive while the one inside the MEGA ST4 is the older style.

I rebooted and the internal diskette drive would not read the boot diskette!

After checking and re-checking I unplugged everything but the monitor from my
system, and the boot diskette now worked!

I then plugged eveything back together but noticed the external diskette
switch was not in the right position. I flicked it ON and the system booted,
turned the MEGA OFF and then the external drive OFF and the system would not
read the boot disk. Tried again with the external ON this time and it works.

What gives, is this normal?

 Last Edited on 04/August/93 at 02:02 hrs
 Gerry Kichok
 Hamilton-Burlington-Oakville Atari User Group Librarian

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 195       Wed Aug 04, 1993
D.MCNAMEE [Dan @ Atari]      at 15:44 EST

Gerry,

         Yes, if you have an external drive hooked up, it should be
 turned on, otherwise you may have problems.  On some systems, it will
 work fine if you do not have the drive turned on, but on others you
 may experience problems.

 Dan

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 196       Thu Aug 05, 1993
R.WHITTAM                    at 02:50 EDT

 >         Yes, if you have an external drive hooked up, it should be
 > turned on, otherwise you may have problems.  On some systems, it will
 > work fine if you do not have the drive turned on, but on others you
 > may experience problems.

Dan @ Atari,

   WHY?  . . .I trashed a boot disk once when I booted with a DMA attached
hard drive that was powered off.  One of the Atari Guru's in our group told
me, "it just works that way."   I want to know the technical reasons why.
Ahh, in mayby fifty words or less. . .  ;^}

Ron - ABUG
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 197       Thu Aug 05, 1993
K.ESTES [Kenne@SFRT]         at 03:28 EDT

I'd guess because it's terminated improperly.
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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 198       Thu Aug 05, 1993
D.MCNAMEE [Dan @ Atari]      at 13:51 EST

Ron,

         Sorry, I don't have a technical explaniation.  My guess is
 the same as Ken's.  The connection is not terminated properly, so it
 doesn't work.

 Dan

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 199       Fri Aug 06, 1993
G.KICHOK [Gerry K]           at 19:12 EDT

Thanks Dan,

I wish there was a POWER light on the external diskette drive!

 Last Edited on 06/August/93 at 18:58 hrs
 Gerry Kichok
 Hamilton-Burlington-Oakville Atari User Group Librarian

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Category 14,  Topic 5
Message 200       Sat Aug 07, 1993
R.NELSON48 [Grouch (:{]      at 10:24 EDT

R.WHITTAM -

I too have symptoms.  With a GTS 100 as drive B if it is now powered up then I
can't do writes to Drive A or my Hard Drive, Wierd No? But, If I use my Master
DSDD as Drive B the system workes fine whether it is turned on or no.  I would
be very nice to know the technical explanation for such falderol.

=-= Grouch (:( =-=
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